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the latest issue of Popular Photography said I could find a color profile for my D60 on their web site. I have not found it. Has anyone located it, and if so will you direct me. thanks in advance for the help.
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Steve L.
 
Steven Lombardy said:
the latest issue of Popular Photography said I could find a color
profile for my D60 on their web site. I have not found it. Has
anyone located it, and if so will you direct me. thanks in advance
for the help.
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Boy, I'd like to get my hands on this--especially if it corrects for reds.

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Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra
 
The only list I found includes 1D and some Canon P&S, but not the D60.

http://www.popphoto.com/HowTo/ArticleDisplay.asp?ArticleID=174
Sandy Santra said:
Steven Lombardy said:
the latest issue of Popular Photography said I could find a color
profile for my D60 on their web site. I have not found it. Has
anyone located it, and if so will you direct me. thanks in advance
for the help.
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Boy, I'd like to get my hands on this--especially if it corrects
for reds.

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Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra
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It's not there (as of yet?). Why not email them and find out?
Steven Lombardy said:
the latest issue of Popular Photography said I could find a color
profile for my D60 on their web site. I have not found it. Has
anyone located it, and if so will you direct me. thanks in advance
for the help.
--
Steve L.
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Adam2 said:
Steven Lombardy said:
the latest issue of Popular Photography said I could find a color
profile for my D60 on their web site. I have not found it. Has
anyone located it, and if so will you direct me. thanks in advance
for the help.
--
Steve L.
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Just got off the site and one of the managing editors told me the profile will be up in a week or so. Keep looking all you d60 owners. ;-)

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Steve L.
 
Steven,

Did they tell you how they created the profile?
Steven Lombardy said:
Adam2 said:
Steven Lombardy said:
the latest issue of Popular Photography said I could find a color
profile for my D60 on their web site. I have not found it. Has
anyone located it, and if so will you direct me. thanks in advance
for the help.
--
Steve L.
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Just got off the site and one of the managing editors told me the
profile will be up in a week or so. Keep looking all you d60
owners. ;-)

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Steve L.
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Adam2 said:
Steven,

Did they tell you how they created the profile?
adam:
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did not say how they created profile. Perhaps the articla will say. Hope so.
Steve L.
Member said:
Steven Lombardy said:
Adam2 said:
Steven Lombardy said:
the latest issue of Popular Photography said I could find a color
profile for my D60 on their web site. I have not found it. Has
anyone located it, and if so will you direct me. thanks in advance
for the help.
--
Steve L.
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Just got off the site and one of the managing editors told me the
profile will be up in a week or so. Keep looking all you d60
owners. ;-)

--
Steve L.
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Steve L.
 
Jay Sinrod said:
bring me up to speed on exactly what this color profile is?
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It's a piece of software that allows photoshop and/or your computer and/or your printer to completely correct for all the color inadequacies of the D60 output. From what I understand, every digital camera (so far) is a little "off". If you get a plug-in or a piece of correction software--a "profile" is of course the best, because it can be interpreted by Photoshop, Windows, a printer driver, etc.--then you're really in clover.

Half of what I said above may be a little inaccurate, but hopefully someone will correct me.

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Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra
 
Dumb questions:
(1) If I got the D60 profile, do I need to worry anything about printer profile?

(2) I guess I still to caliberate by computer screen in order to see the real color on my screen?

LKY.
 
What a color profile does is provide a mapping from your device's colorspace to a "known" colorspace, usually sRGB or Adobe RGB. A D60 color profile will not help you at all if everything else isn't also adjusted, it could even make things worse. For example, if the D60 hypothetically had stronger yellows than sRGB, the profile would tone them down a bit. If your printer has weaker yellows than sRGB and you don't have a profile for it, then the D60 profile would result in even weaker yellows, and hence inferior color. If on the other hand your printer had an accurate profile, it would strengthen those weak yellows, and the output would end up matching the original.

So if you want to bother with color profiles at all, it's important that every device in your workflow (ie camera, screen, and printer) are all calibrated, and it's preferable that they all use the same colorspace. If you're not going to use sRGB, then you also need to make sure you view and print using software that is colorspace-aware (eg Photoshop).
LKY said:
Dumb questions:
(1) If I got the D60 profile, do I need to worry anything about
printer profile?
(2) I guess I still to caliberate by computer screen in order to
see the real color on my screen?

LKY.
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D60, 28-135 IS, 550EX
 
hyslopc said:
So if you want to bother with color profiles at all, it's important
that every device in your workflow (ie camera, screen, and printer)
are all calibrated, and it's preferable that they all use the same
colorspace. If you're not going to use sRGB, then you also need to
make sure you view and print using software that is
colorspace-aware (eg Photoshop).
LKY said:
Dumb questions:
(1) If I got the D60 profile, do I need to worry anything about
printer profile?
(2) I guess I still to caliberate by computer screen in order to
see the real color on my screen?

LKY.
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D60, 28-135 IS, 550EX
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D60, Sigma 14/2.8, Canon 16-35/2.8L, 50.1.4,
28-70/2.8L, 85/1.2L, 70-200 IS USM
 
Great explanation. Thanks. Being a newbie, I have another dumb question. Once you have the D60 profile, do you load it on your camera or do you tag the profile to your images when downloading them onto the computer.

Sorry if I am asking for the obvious, but I am still a bit confused about color management. I understand the principles but I am still struggling with its implementation

Luc
hyslopc said:
So if you want to bother with color profiles at all, it's important
that every device in your workflow (ie camera, screen, and printer)
are all calibrated, and it's preferable that they all use the same
colorspace. If you're not going to use sRGB, then you also need to
make sure you view and print using software that is
colorspace-aware (eg Photoshop).
LKY said:
Dumb questions:
(1) If I got the D60 profile, do I need to worry anything about
printer profile?
(2) I guess I still to caliberate by computer screen in order to
see the real color on my screen?

LKY.
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D60, 28-135 IS, 550EX
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Passionate about digital photography
 
Color theory and the color manangement is something we digital photographers should make some attempt at learning a little about. Unfortunately, some of the proper solutions are not exactly inexpensive...but the results are definately worth it.

Here's a couple of sites that might get you started, but I'd suggest doing a google search also, and perhaps lurking a bit over on Rob Galbriath's site in the Imgae Prep and Workflow forum. Some of the true color theory gurus hang out there.

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/color_management.htm
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7-colour/ps7_1.htm

As far as generic camera profiles are concerned, you may find this helpful
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=3368655

-Taz
 
Taz,

Thank You so much. This is a great starting point. I appreciate it.
Luc
Taz said:
Color theory and the color manangement is something we digital
photographers should make some attempt at learning a little about.
Unfortunately, some of the proper solutions are not exactly
inexpensive...but the results are definately worth it.

Here's a couple of sites that might get you started, but I'd
suggest doing a google search also, and perhaps lurking a bit over
on Rob Galbriath's site in the Imgae Prep and Workflow forum. Some
of the true color theory gurus hang out there.

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/color_management.htm
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7-colour/ps7_1.htm

As far as generic camera profiles are concerned, you may find this
helpful
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=3368655

-Taz
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Passionate about digital photography
 
These profiles at PopPhoto are not worth the download time. I saw the 1D profile and no serious 1D user should use it. I'm bracing to see what their D60 profile looks like.

But D60 owners... do not dispair. I'm privy to a D60 profile development that it is worth to wait for. Stay tuned.

John
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Tom O'Neil said:
The only list I found includes 1D and some Canon P&S, but not the D60.

http://www.popphoto.com/HowTo/ArticleDisplay.asp?ArticleID=174
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After thinking about it for a while, I think I'll skip the pop photo profile and create my own for each of my lenses using Profile Prism. Quick, easy, and accurate.
Steven Lombardy said:
Adam2 said:
Steven,

Did they tell you how they created the profile?
adam:
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did not say how they created profile. Perhaps the articla will
say. Hope so.
Steve L.
Steven Lombardy said:
Steven Lombardy said:
Adam2 said:
Steven Lombardy said:
the latest issue of Popular Photography said I could find a color
profile for my D60 on their web site. I have not found it. Has
anyone located it, and if so will you direct me. thanks in advance
for the help.
--
Steve L.
Click to expand...
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Just got off the site and one of the managing editors told me the
profile will be up in a week or so. Keep looking all you d60
owners. ;-)

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Steve L.
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Steve L.
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