henryk1
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B&H doesn't suck. The Bears suck. The Cubs suck. And that is all I have to say on that subject.
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Better yet. If you want to order from BH or Amazon. Go to The Online Photographer, an extremely well written blog about all things photographic and order through the Online Photographer portal. Mike Johnson who writes the blog gets a small tribute and it helps defray the cost of the blog. (Caution. The Online Photographer is not a fanboy site for arguing about noise, EVs and why Pentax is going out of business.)
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redbird007
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Bottom line: "Sucks" is not vulgar. Anyone who claims otherwise is seriously misinformed, lives an extremely sheltered life, or has a very dirty mind.
Heck, during the Boston Red Sox' 2004 World Series parade one of the Duck boats had a T-shirt displayed that said "Yankees Suck." Nobody -- not even the news media -- made any mention of the phrase or censored it. And you can bet the Red Sox would not have put such a thing up if it in any way was considered obscene.
amazon so you should have asked the rep
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beam me up scotty
do you consider yourself lucky?
That's perhaps a bit too broad a brush with which to paint...
Personally, I don't consider myself "seriously misinformed," I do not live "an extremely sheltered life," and I do not have "a very dirty mind." OK, maybe a LITTLE dirty....
But frankly, I think "sucks" is a little vulgar. I wouldn't use it in front of my mom, or my priest, or my kids.
Maybe we should have a "vulgarity scale." Say, if the F-bomb was a 10, and "darn!" was a 1, where would you put "sucks"?
I'd give it a 6, maybe a 7. Well, maybe a 5 or a 6.
Dunno about that.... Even some of George Carlin's "Seven dirty words" have now been used on TV:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Dirty_Words
To quote from that article:
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Thank you for reading my message. I guess that the the sales team would meet regularly to discuss about customers issues!
The following is a little bit off subject but maybe useful....I used to work for a major Japanese firm as a product designer and we used to get info from the marketing dept such as "we don't want to miss a sales opportunity". They refer to strategically a price point where the buying decision can made quicky (without getting authorization from the wife!). For the US consumers, the word "deal" is a key word. The US consumers want top products (quality and value) at the lowest price. So as designers we need to be aware and have to create values to these product without increasing the design cost. As opposed to customers behavior in Japan, consumers didn't have problems paying for high end products. If they buy an expensive product, they knew that they bought a good one. Thing may have changed now.
Back to "deal" in the US, it is not really about $20 0r $50 but if the difference is more than $100 then why would a consumer pay for the extra! By just clicking couple more times! Of course service level varies but they are not much different these days! Obviously if Amazon still has in stock then I would never call another vendor for price match...This was an attempt to get it before Christmas.
The following is a little bit off subject but maybe useful....I used to work for a major Japanese firm as a product designer and we used to get info from the marketing dept such as "we don't want to miss a sales opportunity". They refer to strategically a price point where the buying decision can made quicky (without getting authorization from the wife!). For the US consumers, the word "deal" is a key word. The US consumers want top products (quality and value) at the lowest price. So as designers we need to be aware and have to create values to these product without increasing the design cost. As opposed to customers behavior in Japan, consumers didn't have problems paying for high end products. If they buy an expensive product, they knew that they bought a good one. Thing may have changed now.
Back to "deal" in the US, it is not really about $20 0r $50 but if the difference is more than $100 then why would a consumer pay for the extra! By just clicking couple more times! Of course service level varies but they are not much different these days! Obviously if Amazon still has in stock then I would never call another vendor for price match...This was an attempt to get it before Christmas.
kristian2000
Veteran Member
I think that the vulgar origin of sucks as a derogatory term is undeniable http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=suck but, I also think that popular usage has made usage of the word much more benign. I don't think most people really relate the word immediately to a sex act.
BTW, I'm old enough to remember 'Disco Sucks' which is when I think that the word really came into popular usage, I also remember my dad yelling at me for saying disco sucks !
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BTW, I'm old enough to remember 'Disco Sucks' which is when I think that the word really came into popular usage, I also remember my dad yelling at me for saying disco sucks !
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My mother used the word regularly whenever the situation justified it (and before anyone runs their emouth about my mother, she currently occupies a box on my sister's bookshelf). The only Priest I was ever introduced to is the one who molested my father as a child. Don't have any kids but I don't think the dog is offended by the word.
On your scale, in the context used here, the word doesn't even make the scale. If it were used as a verb to describe an act in reference to some one, then yes, I could see a 6 or 7.
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Hi,
Your forum profile lists the b&h website address and below this states: "This user has chosen not to disclose their email address"
Thought you should know of this little discrepancy.
Your forum profile lists the b&h website address and below this states: "This user has chosen not to disclose their email address"
Thought you should know of this little discrepancy.
Matthew Miller
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Zaldidun
Senior Member
Whoa! Hold your horses, redbird! The term "obscene" had not been brought up until this post of yours, as far as I recall. I apologize if it has and I missed it.
Vulgar is by no means always obscene. For instance, many composers and other musicians have referred to the sound of the saxophone as vulgar (I happen to concur) but I don't think it's necessarily "obscene".
Zaldidun
Senior Member
redbird007
Forum Enthusiast
You think "darn" is vulgar?!
First, the FCC needs to receive a complaint. Second, a vulgarity uttered on live television by someone with no ties to the medium would not warrant punishment for the television station anyway.
redbird007
Forum Enthusiast
"Vulgar" and "obscene" are synonyms. And in the context of this discussion, a claim has been made that "sucks" refers to oral sex. So we're not talking about "vulgar" in the context of your example.
Zaldidun
Senior Member
Ansonn701987
Leading Member
Most people i know agree B&H is and always has been a most respectable company to deal with. They have fair prices, are courtious, honest and give quick service. Ansonn
henryp
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DavidMaven
Senior Member
Since you offer no alternative source, my cousin's "expertise" wins the day.
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rondeann
Senior Member
I think your reply is a demonstration of what some respondents have been saying.You're kidding right?
It's in the "plan" section.
I realize that there was a
at the end but that doesn't really help.How about "My address is in the PLAN section. I hope to hear from you". That accomplishes the same thing but is a lot less sarcastic.
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redbird007
Forum Enthusiast
No alternative source is necessary; a high school student's say-so counts for zilch.
While "sucks" won't fly in an essay, college paper, or op-ed column, it is a commonly used expression in everyday language that means, quite simply, "no good." There is no more to it, unless, of course, you want to pretend it's vulgar.
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