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ok im still in the planning stage but I guess I am gong to have to consider a kit lens.

I'm on here asking a question after all and i do appreciate all the help.
 
great. i jut want something that i can use with wildlife and sometimes you can get close and others you cant. a good wide focal length and good picture quality as well as a little toughness are what i need. im not going to be swinging my camera around but there is a good chance it may hit something on a hike. i need to know its not going to fall apart.

thanks for the help
 
greeneggsandpie said:
i have to have the better build and the way i see it the 28-105 will do b etter than my point and shoot :)
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Oh man, you're pretty much bonkers.

You asked a question, you got tons of answers, all pointing you in one good direction. But you keep arguing that you know better.

Then, why ask to begin with?
Rgds
 
not looking for weather sealed (almost considered getting a referb Pentax K10 for its weather sealing but i saw what the weather seals are and they dont look like they would stop much moisture. but off that subject i dont want a tank but i want something that can hold up.
 
not really im just trying to get to every option. im not making a decision quite yet.

i AM considering the kit lenses.

and for the record I work miracles with my little camera.

also i have looked at pics taken with the kit lenses and they arent any different than the ones i take with my point and shoot.

i want something a little better and i have seen up close the 28-105 and taken pics with it and the new kits the 28-205 had a faster focus and took equally good (if no better) pics almost every time.
 
i do enjoy backpacking and hiking and i am CONSTANTLY outdoors. im very careful not to get into wet situations even with my point and shoot so im fine on the weatherproof stuff. if you believe that the kit is tough enough then i will take your word for it. after all you sound like a pro and i am not going to argue with you.
 
greeneggsandpie said:
not really im just trying to get to every option. im not making a decision quite yet.

i AM considering the kit lenses.

and for the record I work miracles with my little camera.

also i have looked at pics taken with the kit lenses and they arent any different than the ones i take with my point and shoot.

i want something a little better and i have seen up close the 28-105 and taken pics with it and the new kits the 28-205 had a faster focus and took equally good (if no better) pics almost every time.
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Then buy 28-105, if it makes you feel good. If you like it already and are happy with the pics, it's all that matters.
Rgds
 
well i have kind of already decided against the 50mm because of the fact that it isnt what i need. and i am going to look into this lens that you have recommended.

thanks
 
Just remember, the only wildlife you'll get close enough to with a 28-105 (even on a crop sensor) will be pigeons on city streets and squirrels outside your window. There's not a wild animal anywhere that will stand still to let you get close enough to get a well framed image with a 105mm. That is unless it's roadkill.

Scott
 
i know but everyone is showing me lenses theat either i cant afford or are EF-S lenses 9the EF-S will only fit on certain cameras and if in the future i decide to get a new camera the lenses may not fit) that 55-250 is EF-S not EF (im looking for EF so that it will fit on more cameras.)

but i may end up getting an EF-S because it will be a long time before i get a new camera. i just dont know yet. there are just so many factors to balance.
 
greeneggsandpie said:
i know but everyone is showing me lenses theat either i cant afford or are EF-S lenses 9the EF-S will only fit on certain cameras and if in the future i decide to get a new camera the lenses may not fit) that 55-250 is EF-S not EF (im looking for EF so that it will fit on more cameras.)

but i may end up getting an EF-S because it will be a long time before i get a new camera. i just dont know yet. there are just so many factors to balance.
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  • Get the lenses you can use on the current body now. You can always sell.
  • By the time you can afford a full frame camera you'll also be able to get better glass to pair them with. Besides it's often better to invest in better glass over a better body.
  • A dslr will not by default get you better shots than a p&s camera. It'll be easier to get the hard shots but more difficult to get the easy shots, at least at first. You should also plan on doing some post processing because the dslr are much more conservative and most don't use as advanced techniques to auto enhance your image.
  • Shooting any kind of wildlife often requires at least 200mm for accessible/friendly wildlife or zoo type of shots of some size like a deer. 300mm for anything more skittish and optimally 400mm for birds in flight for example.
Here's a tool from Tamron to compare what certain focallengths do to get a feel. You'll see that 105mm isn't really much reach:
http://www.tamron.com/lenses/learning_center/tools/focal-length-comparison.php

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greeneggsandpie said:
i know but everyone is showing me lenses theat either i cant afford or are EF-S lenses 9the EF-S will only fit on certain cameras and if in the future i decide to get a new camera the lenses may not fit) that 55-250 is EF-S not EF (im looking for EF so that it will fit on more cameras.)

but i may end up getting an EF-S because it will be a long time before i get a new camera. i just dont know yet. there are just so many factors to balance.
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yup, indeed. you can also turn the argument around. All the crop cameras, including the weather sealed new 7D take all lenses, EF and EF-S, so you have a larger choice of lenses. For wildlife a crop is preferred actually. 250mm on crop corresponds to 400mm on FF. So, to get the same reach with the 5D etc, you have to buy a 400mm lens. FF gets seriously expensive. When you get into spending this amount of money, what you spend now seems like peanuts. And Canon lenses do sell quite well second hand, if you really want to get rid of EF-S lenses. So, that should not be a major deciding factor - there are actually a number of threads discussing this.

your first choice should be to get the right focal length

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I have only the 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS kit lens on my Canon 450D though I have rented other lenses. There is a lot of sound advice on this thread.

I have used my 450D and kit lens in the rain, hiking through the woods, kayaking/canoeing, and mountain climbing. It has been bashed against rocks, dropped, and rained on. I always try to avoid this, but a little abuse is inevitable. I have never had a problem.

That being said, you will really need a 300-400mm lens to adequately take pictures of wildlife and you can not afford one at this point. Consider renting a lens when you know you will be spending a lot of time in search of wildlife. I have rented the 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 three times now and I plan to buy one when I have the money. Right now, I am in the same boat as you. I can't afford it.

For rentals, I have only used Lensrentals.com and I have always gotten great service. I would definitely recommend them.
 
The 28-135 is a pretty good starter lens. It doesn't have quite enough short end (so I might actually consider the 18-135 instead, which isn't quite as good optically) but if this is your first DSLR, stepping up from a P&S, you'll want the greater range of the zoom, along with greater flexibility.

I think 50mm is too long to have that be your only lens. The only way I would recommend the 50mm is if you needed it for its low-light capability.
 
I love your argument! It is true, the "crop" cameras can take any of the Canon lenses while the full frame (and 1.3x crop) cameras are limited to the EF lenses.

If the OP gets an XSi, the reach advantage isn't all that much greater than 250mm. A 308mm lens on a 1Ds Mark III would have about the same reach as 250mm on the XSi. If he got the 7D instead, the reach advantage would increase to 370mm. (A 370mm lens would be required on a 1Ds Mark III to capture the same number of pixels on target as a 250mm lens on the 7D). You are absolutely correct on the numbers with regard to field of view.
 
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