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I am thinking of getting the F200exr, and I know that in the past users have provided great tips for the two cams I have below. If anyone could direct me to some tips, I would appreciate it.

I have three f20 cams, and one needs to be looked at to see if it is worth repairing. Where do I take it? I am in Nashville, TN, so do I look for somewhere local?
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I think that this setting with the F200EXR is recommended.
It is maybe versatile under various situations.

Shooting modes: P-mode(Programmed AE) not using EXR-AUTO
Still image: M-size fine
Sensitivity: Auto(400or800)
DRrange:DR(AUTO)
WB: CustomWB in outdoor,Auto WB in indoor
Flash modes: Auto or Off according to the situation
Memory card: SDHC(class4or6) 2-4GB is better
 
rita416 said:
I am thinking of getting the F200exr, and I know that in the past users have provided great tips for the two cams I have below. If anyone could direct me to some tips, I would appreciate it.
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These settings will work on any EXR cam ...

http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com/2009/10/fuji-f70exr-how-to-shoot-it-mkii.html
rita416 said:
I have three f20 cams, and one needs to be looked at to see if it is worth repairing. Where do I take it? I am in Nashville, TN, so do I look for somewhere local?
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The success stories on this forum have involved sending in to Fuji itself to repair. I have done it twice, both went well and the costs were not a big deal. If your F20 is toast, they will replace with a refurb, but you will probably get something more recent like an F60 or F100 ... I think you can check that you don't want that to happen on the forms.

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http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com
 
Whether to use DR Auto is an open question. Looking at the EXIF, I cannot tell what setting Auto set, so it is hard to say if Auto set DR correctly.

Whereas DR 400% works in virtually all situations, giving a pleasing film-like S-curve to the highlights.
 
I think that D-range(manual setting ex.400%) is encouraged to a person who has more photographic knowledge like you,
and D-range(auto) is suitable for a person who wants to use the F200 easily.

Because it is the following reason.

When D-range is specified for user, it becomes under-exposure than D-range(auto) about the same scene,even if the same D-range numerical value is selected.

Someone who knows that thing can adjust the exposure compensation to the plus side a little in P-mode.
Otherwise, the failure of the underexposure will increase.
 
ThunderMaskedMan said:
I think that D-range(manual setting ex.400%) is encouraged to a person who has more photographic knowledge like you,
and D-range(auto) is suitable for a person who wants to use the F200 easily.

Because it is the following reason.

When D-range is specified for user, it becomes under-exposure than D-range(auto) about the same scene,even if the same D-range numerical value is selected.
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Well, D-Range auto can either choose DR100, DR200 or DR400. So the only difference here is when it chooses DR200 or DR100.

From what I have seen, these put your exposures at risk of blown highlights. DR400 protects them as much as is possible without pegging ISO at 200, a not so wonderful solution in all circumstances.

What DR400 also does is open shadows ... in other words, it flattens the tone curve at capture. This is often pleasing, but some people find it without punch. Each to his own, but I would rather not have my highlights blown and my shadows blocked ....

There is no underexposure involved with DR400 ... and adding positive compensation only makes the shadows even more open and the highlights again at risk.

On the other hand ... adding compensation when it is useful , which means understanding what the meter will be doing, can be very useful no matter which tone curve you are using. Compensation should be used for the right reasons, and then the exposures will be perfect.
ThunderMaskedMan said:
Someone who knows that thing can adjust the exposure compensation to the plus side a little in P-mode.
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Why? You only do that when you know the meter will underexpose ... DR400 does not make the meter do that ... it only pulls in the highlights and uplifts the shadows a bit ...
ThunderMaskedMan said:
Otherwise, the failure of the underexposure will increase.
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DR modes only flatten tone curves and try to protect highlights a wee bit ... you still need compensation to handle the meter itself. For example, I find myself using -1/3ev or -2/3ev quite often ... even with DR400 engaged. Because the meter is still a meter ...

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http://letkeman.net/Photos
http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com
 
What I say is a feature of mechanical exposure operation of the F200 set by the Fuji.

The user with the F200 can set the D-range value manually in the DR priority mode and the P-auto mode.
If the DR(auto) is selected, the F200 automatically decides the D-range value.

When the same scene is taken and compared,The exposure is "a little" lower more than D-range(auto) as for the D-range(mannal),even if 100% or 200%.
It appears surely as a change of the shutter speed and the aperture value.

A person who dose not well about the F200 and who has recently just bought will get the better results with using the D-range(auto).
A person who knows well can do the most suitable setting by himself,as you know.
 
ThunderMaskedMan said:
What I say is a feature of mechanical exposure operation of the F200 set by the Fuji.

The user with the F200 can set the D-range value manually in the DR priority mode and the P-auto mode.
If the DR(auto) is selected, the F200 automatically decides the D-range value.

When the same scene is taken and compared,The exposure is "a little" lower more than D-range(auto) as for the D-range(mannal),even if 100% or 200%.
It appears surely as a change of the shutter speed and the aperture value.
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A slight change for the highlights ... but you are confusing cause and effect here. The DR modes should be used for a specific purpose ... then you worry about the exposure and use compensation to control that.

I use DR400 all the time because it gives the best captures every time ...
ThunderMaskedMan said:
A person who dose not well about the F200 and who has recently just bought will get the better results with using the D-range(auto).
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No they won't. In my opinion, they will probably start blowing highlights until they really learn how compensation works. See the vast array of snap shots that are regularly linked into this forum from the F200EXR to see what I mean ...

The EXR mode exists for a purpose ... and DR400 / DR800 are the reason. Using less of this technology makes little sense to me.

But even allowing for personal preference, advocating it as a way of controlling exposure is just confusing. Shooting DR400 all the time provides a consistent baseline of exposure to which compensation can be reliably applied.
ThunderMaskedMan said:
A person who knows well can do the most suitable setting by himself,as you know.
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A person can shoot the settings I document in "how to shoot mark II" and get great results ... better in my opinion than blasting away in EXR AUTO / DR AUTO.

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http://letkeman.net/Photos
http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com
 
What I want to say is the following ”one” point.

Comparison of exposures (combination of the shutter speed and the aperture value) with DR(manual) and DR(auto).

If the same DR number is selected on the same ISO, the exposure with DR(manual) is always lower than DR(auto).
This is a setting of the F200 that Fuji programmed.
 
Hi guys. I have an F70 (Fuji F70EXR that is, not to be confused with the Nikon F70) but want to post in here since it seems to be the main thread about tips for using the F70 & F200. On one of the flickr groups for the F70 a Fuji rep made a thread letting us know the Fuji crew was there for us if we had any questions. Cutting to the chase, I posted and got a reply from Kelly, pretty much suggesting to use EXR SN or DR mode instead of P mode:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/f70exr/discuss/72157622884598303/#comment72157622929469793
 
potownrob said:
Hi guys. I have an F70 (Fuji F70EXR that is, not to be confused with the Nikon F70) but want to post in here since it seems to be the main thread about tips for using the F70 & F200.
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Not too likely that we'd assume you were talking about an old Nikon film SLR here ...
potownrob said:
On one of the flickr groups for the F70 a Fuji rep made a thread letting us know the Fuji crew was there for us if we had any questions. Cutting to the chase, I posted and got a reply from Kelly, pretty much suggesting to use EXR SN or DR mode instead of P mode:
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potownrob said:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/f70exr/discuss/72157622884598303/#comment72157622929469793
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The technician says: May not take advantage of the EXR ...

All my tests say that, when you shoot DR400 in P mode with size set to M ... that last part really matters ... you get EXR assist. I see no difference between that and shooting in EXR DR mode, of course excepting the extra control you get.

I presume that the technician was dumbing things down a bit to avoid a long and complex set of caveats, but shooting with all the same setting in L size will result in mediocre images as ISO climbs ... and very quickly.

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http://letkeman.net/Photos
http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com
 
I am not certain that Fuji reps know how to use their own camera. On the F200EXR, and probably the F70EXR, you cannot enable flash in EXR DR mode. In P mode, you get control of flash and the same results up to DR 400%. To use DR 800%, click the wheel counterclockwise to EXR.
 
Kim Letkeman said:
potownrob said:
Hi guys. I have an F70 (Fuji F70EXR that is, not to be confused with the Nikon F70) but want to post in here since it seems to be the main thread about tips for using the F70 & F200.
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Not too likely that we'd assume you were talking about an old Nikon film SLR here ...
Kim Letkeman said:
On one of the flickr groups for the F70 a Fuji rep made a thread letting us know the Fuji crew was there for us if we had any questions. Cutting to the chase, I posted and got a reply from Kelly, pretty much suggesting to use EXR SN or DR mode instead of P mode:
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Kim Letkeman said:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/f70exr/discuss/72157622884598303/#comment72157622929469793
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The technician says: May not take advantage of the EXR ...

All my tests say that, when you shoot DR400 in P mode with size set to M ... that last part really matters ... you get EXR assist. I see no difference between that and shooting in EXR DR mode, of course excepting the extra control you get.

I presume that the technician was dumbing things down a bit to avoid a long and complex set of caveats, but shooting with all the same setting in L size will result in mediocre images as ISO climbs ... and very quickly.

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Kim- I'm only on day 1 with my F70 so really am behind the curve here. Probably shouldnt even join in here. But what you just wrote is really surprising to me. You are saying that the maximum image size (L) gives worse IQ than (M). That seems crazy! Am I missing something here?

Leaving forum to go read your blog....
 
cseiler said:
Can you see the DR setting when not in auto mode? I am using Lightroom and a F70 but I can not find it.
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It is likely that Lightroom does not show all the EXIF fields. Try exiftool or Fuji's bundled application (FPV) to see all the EXIF fields, including "Dynamic Range Setting" and "Dynamic Range" value.
 
rattymouse said:
Kim Letkeman said:
potownrob said:
Hi guys. I have an F70 (Fuji F70EXR that is, not to be confused with the Nikon F70) but want to post in here since it seems to be the main thread about tips for using the F70 & F200.
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Not too likely that we'd assume you were talking about an old Nikon film SLR here ...
Member said:
On one of the flickr groups for the F70 a Fuji rep made a thread letting us know the Fuji crew was there for us if we had any questions. Cutting to the chase, I posted and got a reply from Kelly, pretty much suggesting to use EXR SN or DR mode instead of P mode:
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Member said:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/f70exr/discuss/72157622884598303/#comment72157622929469793
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The technician says: May not take advantage of the EXR ...

All my tests say that, when you shoot DR400 in P mode with size set to M ... that last part really matters ... you get EXR assist. I see no difference between that and shooting in EXR DR mode, of course excepting the extra control you get.

I presume that the technician was dumbing things down a bit to avoid a long and complex set of caveats, but shooting with all the same setting in L size will result in mediocre images as ISO climbs ... and very quickly.

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Kim- I'm only on day 1 with my F70 so really am behind the curve here. Probably shouldnt even join in here. But what you just wrote is really surprising to me. You are saying that the maximum image size (L) gives worse IQ than (M). That seems crazy! Am I missing something here?

Leaving forum to go read your blog....
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OK, I think I might be getting onto this a bit. Is setting the camera to (M) the downsizing to 5 megapixels? I understood that cutting the resolution in half was best for EXR cameras but I thought that the cam did this when the EXR mode was engaged. Not true? So the operator is the one who downsizes from 10 to 5 megapixels?

I can't imagine how much work went into your blog setting up this camera. Sooo many options in those menus! Thanks for your hard work Kim.
 
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