Photographing diamonds to a professional level

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Hi there,

I have been asked to shoot some diamonds to a high standard and would appreciate any tips from other professionals with experience here.

Previously I have only shot product/fashion for my clients so I am not entirely confident in this specific area. I am assuming back lit with black cards around the front for definition in the stone but if anyone has done this before and has any tips I'd really appreciate it.
Cheers!
 
I assume you are asking about making DeBeers or Tiffany's quality images. Their photographers may still be shooting 8x10 film as far as I know.

This is about the one thing I have not done (that and nudes) but as with anything that is simultaneuously highly reflective and refractive the lighting will be all about highlight placement -making sure the light goes only where you want it. One approch that apparently works well is to work with very small light sources : BAlcar and a couple of other companies make light modifiers that sit like caps on a conventional flash head and pipe ight through fiber optic cables, if you don't have access to those ou might consider pointing your lights at small mirrors rather than the stone itself and use those to aim the light to exactly the spots you want. Make use of - -as you suggested -- black cards and even black tape to precisely tune the shape and size of the light , control reflections on the facet surfaces. Once you have "woken up" the stone then think about carefully adding an overall diffuse light from the top of the set.

Small spotlights maybe a better choice than electronic flash as you'll be abse to see in real time what you are doing with light.

Along the same line of thinking: If you can work with your camera tethered to your computer so you are not making critical judgment calls about lighting based on a tiny screen on the back of your camera or the peephole of your viewfinder, and instead see it at or close to full resolution on a computer monitor.

And of course, shoot raw to make the most of your camera's dynamic range, particularly up in the highlights where you will need to be able to separate outsubtle differences in tonal gradations and retain detail without the jamming that JPEG captures will do.

Are the stones going to be mounted in jewelry or by themselves?
 
Hi, Thanks for your reply.
The shoot is for a website, and point of sale

My setup consists of H.blad H3D shooting tethered into macbook pro with elinchrom lighting (strobe) with honey comb grids/large and mediums sized soft boxes and trace screen mirrors etc. If I have to hire in the fiber optic spots I will and charge that on to the client.
The diamonds will be shot as they are and also some rings need to be shot also.

I'm assuming from the Tiffany look these are shot in 2 elements, one for stone (heavily sharpened) and one for the band?
 
Broncolor used to make a head with a fiber-optic (I think it was called the Fibro) attachment that allowed 3 small fiber optic tubes to be placed with different lens/snoot/gels/grids on the end of each. Using those with articulating arms that you can clamp to the table and position the highlight lights exactly where you want them.

Beyond that goes back to the basics we all learned about shooting glass, white line/black line. Lots of flags. It's obviously quite a bit more complicated than glass but same basic concept.
--
~Kurt
 
I'm assuming from the Tiffany look these are shot in 2 elements, one for stone (heavily sharpened) and one for the band?
I suspectthat they are working with monorail view cameras with digital backs an usingthe view camera controls to control focus fall off, in conjunction with long focal length macro lenses and all sorts of post processing to letthe stone and relevant details be crisply rendered and the background fall out of focus in a visually appealing way.

I used to know a still life shooter who and a 3 inch thick granite slab as his shooting stage for this kind of work, it must have weighed several hundred pounds which does a lot to dampen vibration. He used a sandbagged FOBA camera stand and tripod head, and his lights and gobos were hung from an overhead grid allowing for a clear area around the set. Seems obsessive to me but it certainly worked for him.

good luck!
 
I think with still life its too easy to become obsessive it definitely brings out my obsessive perfectionism to the point where I drive myself a bit mad. As long as the clients happy then I'm happy! Thanks for your advice!
 
I've spent years shooting jewelry, I can think of at least eight sets that work for different looks. My approaches are based on the zone system. Think of breaking the lighting down to max white, two or so shades of midtones, and max black. So, you might take a raw light, point it across the set, then place a piece of diffusion material in between the light to soften the light across the area of view. Then you could place a reflector on the other side, either a silver card, a soft silver card, or a white card, either in, or partially in the raw spill or within the diffuse area. That gives you max white off the diffuser, midtones off the reflectors, and by spreading the cards out or closer in, you create more blacks.

There is something to be said about approaching the set with one light. This refers to Coverage. You should really only need one light to cover the area of view. On the other hand, catalog jewelry can also be approached with four lights, for each side of the set. Place four scrims together, two squares / two triangles, making a box, and spread them out as necessary to create blacks.

You can also incorporate a small light source at very low power to add sparkle. This effect is so small and controllable that I have even used tungsten light bulbs mixed with strobe to no ill effect. Alternatively, an optical spot will often do the same thing for lighting, say, watch faces.

As a finish, you can rig up a hot light with a snoot, you can make one out of foil, and place it behind your camera (careful, not too hot!) and project it through the viewfinder with the rest of your lights off. There you will see small specks of reflection from the diamond facets projected onto your scrims and reflectors. You can then take small bits of black tape and attach them over the specks where they will suppress these highlights and add black to the diamonds. You can even do this with most rings.

Beware of Russian diamonds which are notorious for their lack of clarity and their milkyness. With these diamonds there is little you can do to add clarity, short of Photoshop.

Good luck!
 
I've spent years shooting jewelry, I can think of at least eight sets that work for different looks. My approaches are based on the zone system. Think of breaking the lighting down to max white, two or so shades of midtones, and max black. So, you might take a raw light, point it across the set, then place a piece of diffusion material in between the light to soften the light across the area of view. Then you could place a reflector on the other side, either a silver card, a soft silver card, or a white card, either in, or partially in the raw spill or within the diffuse area. That gives you max white off the diffuser, midtones off the reflectors, and by spreading the cards out or closer in, you create more blacks.
Definitely agree.
There is something to be said about approaching the set with one light. This refers to Coverage. You should really only need one light to cover the area of view. On the other hand, catalog jewelry can also be approached with four lights, for each side of the set. Place four scrims together, two squares / two triangles, making a box, and spread them out as necessary to create blacks.
Also: agree. I have a different 'trick': I use a Ø 10" / 5" height collar, made of translucent acryl, instead of the box.
As a finish, you can rig up a hot light with a snoot, you can make one out of foil, and place it behind your camera (careful, not too hot!) and project it through the viewfinder with the rest of your lights off. There you will see small specks of reflection from the diamond facets projected onto your scrims and reflectors. You can then take small bits of black tape and attach them over the specks where they will suppress these highlights and add black to the diamonds. You can even do this with most rings.
I agree again, but use a 50% mirror / 45 degree angled in front of the lens.

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cheers, Peter
Germany
 
"Ah yes the insanity of still life photography..." Michael O'Neill ( who stopped shooting advertising still life awhile back and now concentrates on portraiture: http://michaeloneill.com
 
I think this might be what you're looking for:

http://www.betterlight.com/featuredPhotogs/morganRockhill/MorganRockhill.html
Hi there,

I have been asked to shoot some diamonds to a high standard and would appreciate any tips from other professionals with experience here.

Previously I have only shot product/fashion for my clients so I am not entirely confident in this specific area. I am assuming back lit with black cards around the front for definition in the stone but if anyone has done this before and has any tips I'd really appreciate it.
Cheers!
 
I assume you are asking about making DeBeers or Tiffany's quality images. Their photographers may still be shooting 8x10 film as far as I know.

This is about the one thing I have not done (that and nudes)
OK, this is totally off topic, but I just could not resist a lead in like that.

This one doesn't show any nudity. Looks simple, but it was a 6 light shot. Main 84 inch Octabank. Fill 4x6 softbox. Kicker, 4 foot strip. Hair lights 2x snoot. Sparkle light on the bracelet, snoot with a honeycomb.



Here's from the same shoot, some of the lights intruded, and the hair light placement (obviously) totally wrong.
[warning: nudity]
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/images/2008-02-09-0073.jpg

The snoot with the honeycomb is a pain to work with. This kind of disaster prompted me to eventually rig an Edmund Optics iris to the end of a snoot.
[warning: nudity]
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/images/2008-02-09-0058.jpg

Sometimes, all you need is one hard light. ;)
[warning: nudity]
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/images/2008-03-28-0391.jpg

And this was just playing. It's actually nearly impossible to shoot, because that "gemstone" weighs eight pounds and by the time you aim a light so that it refracts it well, the model shifts the stone.
[warning: nudity]
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/images/2008-02-05-0182.jpg

--
Rahon Klavanian 1912-2008.

Armenian genocide survivor, amazing cook, scrabble master, and loving grandmother. You will be missed.

Ciao! Joseph

http://www.swissarmyfork.com
 
I assume you are asking about making DeBeers or Tiffany's quality images. Their photographers may still be shooting 8x10 film as far as I know.
Possibly.
This is about the one thing I have not done (that and nudes) but as with anything that is simultaneuously highly reflective and refractive the lighting will be all about highlight placement -making sure the light goes only where you want it. One approch that apparently works well is to work with very small light sources : BAlcar and a couple of other companies make light modifiers that sit like caps on a conventional flash head and pipe ight through fiber optic cables, if you don't have access to those ou might consider pointing your lights at small mirrors rather than the stone itself and use those to aim the light to exactly the spots you want.
That will also increase the apparent distance between stone and light source. That is key. A diamond has a very high dispersion, and it's faceted to take advantage of this. So, the facets have dramatic color changes with small changes of the angle of the light. A two degree shift in angle is enough to change the reflection from orange to blue, so a light source that covers two degrees (as seen from the stone's point of view) will cause that facet to reflect both orange and blue (and all the colors in between), which then recombine to make white.

Basically, the light sources want to be less than a degree as seen from the stone. So, the end of a 1/4 inch fiber optic should be at least 15 inches from the stone if you want each facet to show a strong color. Cut the distance in half to make the color more pastel, which is more like the way most ads show it.

A brilliant cut stone will typically only show about 1/4 the facets bright and colorful with one point source of light, so you just keep adding sources and playing, so that each new source adds new facets without double or triple lighting too many existing facets (which will cause them to lose their colors and go white).
Make use of - -as you suggested -- black cards and even black tape to precisely tune the shape and size of the light , control reflections on the facet surfaces. Once you have "woken up" the stone then think about carefully adding an overall diffuse light from the top of the set.
Did anyone ever tell you that you have a gift. You're explanation of how you guess you'd shoot something that you don't have experience with is pretty much bang on. And despite not having done it, you're explaining it better than people who have done it could.

You should take up writing ;)
Small spotlights maybe a better choice than electronic flash as you'll be abse to see in real time what you are doing with light.
But not LED spots. They have spectral peaks that show up as weird bands in the reflections from a stone.
Along the same line of thinking: If you can work with your camera tethered to your computer so you are not making critical judgment calls about lighting based on a tiny screen on the back of your camera or the peephole of your viewfinder, and instead see it at or close to full resolution on a computer monitor.

And of course, shoot raw to make the most of your camera's dynamic range, particularly up in the highlights where you will need to be able to separate outsubtle differences in tonal gradations and retain detail without the jamming that JPEG captures will do.
I've been known to composite three shots. One with an insane amount of small, intense lights which is basically so that the stone throws colored patterns onto the foreground. One more "correct" for the specular reflections, and a final one correct for the diffuse lighting.

My God, I used to do that on a 4x5, with masks, and grease pencil drawings on the ground glass.

--
Rahon Klavanian 1912-2008.

Armenian genocide survivor, amazing cook, scrabble master, and loving grandmother. You will be missed.

Ciao! Joseph

http://www.swissarmyfork.com
 
As a finish, you can rig up a hot light with a snoot, you can make one out of foil, and place it behind your camera (careful, not too hot!) and project it through the viewfinder with the rest of your lights off. There you will see small specks of reflection from the diamond facets projected onto your scrims and reflectors. You can then take small bits of black tape and attach them over the specks where they will suppress these highlights and add black to the diamonds. You can even do this with most rings.
What a wild idea.

I've got an epi-illumination rig that sits between the macro lens and the bellows. It does what Peter describes elsewhere in this tread with a 45 degree partially silvered mirror, except that it does it from behind the lens instead of in front of it.

It's normally used for technical photography of metallic objects. I'll have to experiment with using it as a "speck finder".

--
Rahon Klavanian 1912-2008.

Armenian genocide survivor, amazing cook, scrabble master, and loving grandmother. You will be missed.

Ciao! Joseph

http://www.swissarmyfork.com
 
Hi Luke,

Good pointer, thanks for putting it in. I love the fact that he comps his images. I do the same for interiors work (56 shots for my last image!), but I have to admit I've been working very hard to get my jewellery and product shots in one. It was a moment for me :-)

Cheers!

Chas
http://www.betterlight.com/featuredPhotogs/morganRockhill/MorganRockhill.html
Hi there,

I have been asked to shoot some diamonds to a high standard and would appreciate any tips from other professionals with experience here.

Previously I have only shot product/fashion for my clients so I am not entirely confident in this specific area. I am assuming back lit with black cards around the front for definition in the stone but if anyone has done this before and has any tips I'd really appreciate it.
Cheers!
 

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