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Truly believe that manufacturing cost of PEN 2 does not exceed cost to make SLR
For $1100 they should offer 2 lenses in the kit. And better than they have now.

somewhat 14 - 150 and 25/1.4 would they have it. Or sell camera body only. Oly somewhat behind with good lens line up for 4/3.

What do you think?
 
I think that you are right. The GH1 price is dropping, and you can get it for about $200 more than the Pen E-P2 now, which does not leave a lot of room for Oly to introduce their next camera MFT which is rumored to fit in between the two. No doubt the E-P2 price won't hold at that level. But for now, the camera is new and people are paying list price...
 
They are collecting all the money they can from the early adopter suckers. :) (like me)
 
AG said:
Truly believe that manufacturing cost of PEN 2 does not exceed cost to make SLR
For $1100 they should offer 2 lenses in the kit. And better than they have now.

somewhat 14 - 150 and 25/1.4 would they have it. Or sell camera body only. Oly somewhat behind with good lens line up for 4/3.

What do you think?
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1. The prices I have seen so far include the electronic eyelevel finder, which is a separate, no-so-cheap accessory from Panasonic for the G-F1 and the Olympus version looks to be way superior, so it's more than just the one lens when it comes to what else besides the body that makes up the price of the outfit.

2. Be one of the first to buy and you will always get soaked for more money than those who buy much later down the road.
 
Panasonic charges $899 for the GF1 kits, and they charge $200 for the EVF add-on. They sell a ton of the kits...Not necessarily the EVF, but competition helps drive price. They also are recouping R&D..It'll come down.

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I believe the E-P2 + 17mm + EVF kit is priced right for the current market for a new entry. It's the best detachable EVF and worth more than the one Panasonic sells for $200.

Prices always settle for camera bodies. (The D300 is the body that settled the least in price over time I believe, but I may be wrong on that). However, Oly seems to have a knack for pricing just a bit higher than the mass market then settling reasonably quickly with price cuts, rebates, and deals.

I believe the E-P2 will be priced right this summer. I might buy then. $799 for EVF + 17mm kit would be compelling for me. How much was the initial price on the E-P1? Was is $1000 with lens? It's now $680 on Amazon with the 14-42mm.

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Hi

To me, that's the strength with a system like the m4/3. I like the Oly E-P1 body, and can use the good wa and zoom lenses from Panasonic.
Then when Zuiko comes with more lenses I can add them on if I so wish...

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Stephen Kovac Jr said:
It is expensive if you buy in the U.S. paying in USD. In other countries, the E-P2 is price reasonable. The U.S. dollar is weak and imports will cost more.
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I think I may well disagree on that - that the price is resonable. It's certainly I think too high in UK .. but what is worse is that it seems to be getting an acknowledged thing that in many cases - if you prefer to stick with the Pancake lenses..neither Panny nor Oly really make it very attractive to cross-buy in making a set. The Oly seems without a doubt to be thought a lot better body beause of the IS if nothing else.. but to buy the E-P1 then a seperate Panny Pancake is FAR more expensive than buying the pairing as it comes with each..VERY much more ... so what should be a good price for 'free choice' becomes highly questionable as an outlay

Certainly applies to me at least .. takles away all the attraction.. and if I do anything .. I just do not want to have to wait maybe more than 6 months before there's any real change .. and that's not guaranteed ..

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eric-UK

 
Sorry to be such a wet blanket, but IMHO the price of all the micro four thirds cameras is a bit out of line. I"m talking MSRP's mind you.

I think the ep2 should sell for $799, and $499 body-only. GF1 should be the same. $899 without the EVF is just too much.
 
I picked up the EP1 on sale as a package at a popular retailer. One of the reason's I got it compared to the EP-2 is that I just could not justify the 350 price difference and all that is gained is the EVF. I also didn't see the GF1 being 150 bucks more, either. If the EP2 had improved AF and improved LCD and was being sold w/o the EVF for 899, I would have bought it in a heartbeat.

Dj
 
Crimguy said:
Sorry to be such a wet blanket, but IMHO the price of all the micro four thirds cameras is a bit out of line. I"m talking MSRP's mind you.

I think the ep2 should sell for $799, and $499 body-only. GF1 should be the same. $899 without the EVF is just too much.
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You're talking $$$ ... I'm in UK so am talking £££ ...

A quick check online.. one of our very good , good prices and very reputable, sites.. has the Oly E-P1 ...Body+17mm Pancake+the OVF...£659 ...

I personally don't want the EVF.. and would prefer the BODY only .. The above site does not offer Body only but as far as I can recall , the few that DO sell the E-P1 BODY alone, I think charge £599 for it..

Now go to Panasonic UK site..or GF-1 sellers .. and you CAN buy the Panny Pancake lens seperately.. VERY VERY best well known and excellent family type dealer.. Panny lens alone...£269
So the E-P1 BODY .. plus a Panny Pancake lens would then cost you £868 ..
that's currently $1,415....................!!!

Now THAT is expensive ..... and THAT is E-P1...what is the E-P2 to be ??

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eric-UK

 
Why do you feel the camera makers need to price things according to how much you think is right ?

If you think it's too much money then just don't buy it. I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to buy the camera as it is. If Oly aren't selling enough then they'll drop the price - it will almost certainly drop over the next 6 months anyway as this is the pattern for all cameras.

Nick
 
I think the reason oly is selling the EVF with the camera, and not seperately, is because thats probably the only way OLY can make up the R&D. Lets say they did offer a body only, or kit w/o the EVF. If only half of those buyers then buy the EVF seperately, the EVF would be kinda expensive, and maybe to the point they don't sell many EVF's at all. All and all, I think if I wanted the EVF, the $350 difference is worth it. For me, I don't want the EVF.

Dj
 
Following some of your logic maybe - the Nikon D90 body should be at the same $499 price point?

The EP series is a metal body, a smaller form factor, and popular right now.. nothing wrong in the pricing IMO - You could buy two Yaris from Toyota for the price of one Mazda Miata...
 
I didn't. I bought a Sigma DP2 instead for half the price. Not for everyone, but great for learning photography and getting amazing results as you learn.
 
Hi

After some experience of the 14-42 (Oly) I am a bit disappointed I must say.
But getting the full Panasonic set up I am satisfied with the m4/3.
The best body (Oly) with the best lenses (Panasonic).

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Marcus

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5D mk2
24-105 IS f/4L
70-200 IS f/2,8L
17-40 f/4L
100 macro f/2,8
Canon EF 2x II Extender

Olympus E-P1
Olympus m4/3 14-42, f/3,5-5,6
Panasonic m4/3 7-14, f/4
Panasonic m4/3 14-45, f/3,5-5,6
Panasonic m4/3 45-200, f/4-5,6
Olympus FL-14
Olympus FL-50 R

 
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