phototherapy
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Good point, I agree with you on this.
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A550..are we all talking about the same review ???
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Sonn Franken
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Hi Vaughan, some people might say the rating "Recommended" is too little. And that if it would say Canon or Nikon on the same cam, it would get "Highly Recommended". This site seems to have a preference for Canon and Nikon, all others are some less. Again this is open to debate, but has been ventilated throughout many reviews.
Second, the proof is in eating the pudding as they say. Often reviews go in on features, small issues that are there or perhaps not, perception of the reviewer, and even personal interests. Time and time again, cams end up being loved by their own user groups. Example is the F series 717/828, the R1 and now even the 300/350. I use the 350 and I love the cam. I get to know it and I love what I have.
Strange comments are that for a first user, the 550 can be awkward to use, not very easy to begin with. You must fiddle with the options to get the best results. Earlier reviews mentioned that Sony was focussing too much on P&S users and not the "real" photographer,.. too much on the automatic pilot. Whilst Canon and Nikon those days offered all the features a real photographer wanted and will use, and NEVER automated functions... Can you hear what I try to tell? A review can be twisted according the standards you set up before the tests. Doing so, some reviews can never be compared to each other. For example, do I judge a cam on it's easyness to use, and the capability to let the cam do as much as possible? Or do I go for the cam that has the most features and get great results, although in automatic pilot it produces worse than the small P&S??
It all depends what we want from a cam. So indeed the final conclusion in this case is of no value at all. Go through the review to see what the cam has to offer, where it stands and hope the reviewer is not too biased in comaring it with Canon or Nikon, as earlier reviews have clearly been.
Take out from a review what you want. Set up a list. Look at the money in your wallet, and then go check in th stores, feel for yourself and try. And whatever suits you best, that is a good thing. No matter what brand, what model.
Just yesterday my niece bought a 380. Not the cam I would choose. But it was a great bargain with 2 lenses, she only starting, and the cam is lighter and smaller than the 300/350. Even the menu is "easier", closer to a P&S. Live view included to make her feel comfortable.. Features that mean nothing to me, but to her were very important. In a review what should it say? Cam is too small?? would offend users like her. Cam is finally comfortable smaller; would be a dislike for me since I have clumsy thick fingers and like the bigger cams in my hand?? Do you get what I try to say? Therefor the job of a reviewer is very difficult and always allows place for personal judgement that will offend people that think differently.
Hmm having that said,... let's go out and enjoy shooting.
Sonn cheers all.
Second, the proof is in eating the pudding as they say. Often reviews go in on features, small issues that are there or perhaps not, perception of the reviewer, and even personal interests. Time and time again, cams end up being loved by their own user groups. Example is the F series 717/828, the R1 and now even the 300/350. I use the 350 and I love the cam. I get to know it and I love what I have.
Strange comments are that for a first user, the 550 can be awkward to use, not very easy to begin with. You must fiddle with the options to get the best results. Earlier reviews mentioned that Sony was focussing too much on P&S users and not the "real" photographer,.. too much on the automatic pilot. Whilst Canon and Nikon those days offered all the features a real photographer wanted and will use, and NEVER automated functions... Can you hear what I try to tell? A review can be twisted according the standards you set up before the tests. Doing so, some reviews can never be compared to each other. For example, do I judge a cam on it's easyness to use, and the capability to let the cam do as much as possible? Or do I go for the cam that has the most features and get great results, although in automatic pilot it produces worse than the small P&S??
It all depends what we want from a cam. So indeed the final conclusion in this case is of no value at all. Go through the review to see what the cam has to offer, where it stands and hope the reviewer is not too biased in comaring it with Canon or Nikon, as earlier reviews have clearly been.
Take out from a review what you want. Set up a list. Look at the money in your wallet, and then go check in th stores, feel for yourself and try. And whatever suits you best, that is a good thing. No matter what brand, what model.
Just yesterday my niece bought a 380. Not the cam I would choose. But it was a great bargain with 2 lenses, she only starting, and the cam is lighter and smaller than the 300/350. Even the menu is "easier", closer to a P&S. Live view included to make her feel comfortable.. Features that mean nothing to me, but to her were very important. In a review what should it say? Cam is too small?? would offend users like her. Cam is finally comfortable smaller; would be a dislike for me since I have clumsy thick fingers and like the bigger cams in my hand?? Do you get what I try to say? Therefor the job of a reviewer is very difficult and always allows place for personal judgement that will offend people that think differently.
Hmm having that said,... let's go out and enjoy shooting.
Sonn cheers all.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA350/AA350A.HTM
MSRP: $900
But I guess that includes 18-70 kit lens, so it was $800 body only. The used A350 is still selling for $450 to $600 on ebay (strange). A550 is already down to $899, though.
Alpha Jack
Senior Member
IMHO, the problem is that DPR has given out way too many HR so R seems like a failing grade. I don't think the R is a slam to the 550. I think the HR for at least some other cams is inflated. I don't disagree with anything you wrote except I think you might underestimate how some buyers will be influenced by the bottom line grade. We are in a soundbite society who wants microwave reviews.
Let's put it into proper perspective though. The vast majority of buyers don't even know DPR exists. How they review and rate cameras ultimately has very little impact on the market.
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Let's put it into proper perspective though. The vast majority of buyers don't even know DPR exists. How they review and rate cameras ultimately has very little impact on the market.
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vaughanbb
Leading Member
Exactly....taken as an average over all the A550 reviews done and published, the A550 comes out well, and even this DPR review was to my reading pos review...with a few reservations, some of which will not affect many users
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Sony A330/kit lens samples here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35161694@N03/sets/72157622495084386/
Danel
Senior Member
Actually, the D90 release price for body only was $999. The $1299 price you are quoting below was for the D90 plus the very nice, very sharp 18-105mm VR lens. Thus, the A550 release price of $949 was only $50 less than the release price of the D90.
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Marti58
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the world is more then DPR or the American market .....most potential buyers will listen to friends or sales clerks.....when they dunno what to decide.
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handrian
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It supposed to be an upgrade from A350. At least A350 had a program shift, now you get a A550 without even that essential feature for an DSLR. And it doesn't have DOF preview either.
I don't see why somebody should buy an DSLR without even the basic operations.
Other cameras have two rotating wheels so you can change settings more easily, and Sony A550, well, it has one, BUT they choose in the program mode this rotating wheel to do nothing, you turn it and nothing is changing, it takes you a while to realize that you can't change what program mode has choose for you. I don't think there is another DSLR on the market without program shift.
It's better with this camera to forget the program mode and use something else, probably the A mode.
I have been using A550 in the last week, and never used P mode, I use it like a camera that doesn't have program mode.
This isn't what we were expecting from a DSLR, even serious compacts have program shift.
And that focus assist light was that expensive to stay out of the 5xx series?
So, I can't recommend A550 to anyone.
If you want Sony get the far better A700.
If you want the nice live view Sony has, then we don't have any good options I'm afraid...
I don't see why somebody should buy an DSLR without even the basic operations.
Other cameras have two rotating wheels so you can change settings more easily, and Sony A550, well, it has one, BUT they choose in the program mode this rotating wheel to do nothing, you turn it and nothing is changing, it takes you a while to realize that you can't change what program mode has choose for you. I don't think there is another DSLR on the market without program shift.
It's better with this camera to forget the program mode and use something else, probably the A mode.
I have been using A550 in the last week, and never used P mode, I use it like a camera that doesn't have program mode.
This isn't what we were expecting from a DSLR, even serious compacts have program shift.
And that focus assist light was that expensive to stay out of the 5xx series?
So, I can't recommend A550 to anyone.
If you want Sony get the far better A700.
If you want the nice live view Sony has, then we don't have any good options I'm afraid...
VAughn, I agree with your observation but I also agree with others. I felt that by reading the review it came out as a good camera. When I bought my a100 dpr did not seem crazy about it also. But based on the text of their review I felt it was just what I wanted. People complained about the jpeg quality of the a100 and I like it.
But, the a550 review listed some basic tools missing from the a550 that we used to brag about on the a100 and a700. I must confess, I use the mlu when I shoot pictures from tripod of my oil paintings.
I'm not worried about the review. I'm more concerned with Sony's unwillingness to compete with toughness like they did with the a100 and a700. Even in the entries.
Your observations were calming and right on the money. But just like in boxing the challenger has to "take" the championship away from the champion. He has to win convincingly. Some of the posters here are not convinced.
ChaCha
But, the a550 review listed some basic tools missing from the a550 that we used to brag about on the a100 and a700. I must confess, I use the mlu when I shoot pictures from tripod of my oil paintings.
I'm not worried about the review. I'm more concerned with Sony's unwillingness to compete with toughness like they did with the a100 and a700. Even in the entries.
Your observations were calming and right on the money. But just like in boxing the challenger has to "take" the championship away from the champion. He has to win convincingly. Some of the posters here are not convinced.
ChaCha
Actually I wanted to reply to your post on the original thread where you mentioned the tweaking... But first I want to comment on the DPR verdict:
As a former A200 owner, now having switched to the A550, I fully agree with the rating. Very good camera, but some things were hard to swallow...
The camera is certainly delivering excellent pictures - that being represented by the 8.5 score on picture quality (same as D5000 and 500d).
But there were certain drawbacks on my initial hopes to receive a camera without any major flaws (and that would be better as a D90 for instance).
So it is this weirdness that DPR described which I found true.
As somebody who has advanced knowledge about photography, I would like to use some of the missing features such as program shift.
If I were a beginner (as stated), I surely would have to know more about how to change the settings right, to get some better results.
So initially, I was disappointed by the first jpg pictures OOC - they were just as described very heavy on the reds and for my eyes much worse than the pictures I received from the A200. As mentioned by the DPR. (Now, I at least know that I am not insane).
So, I had to shoot more than 3000 pics to find parameters that were better or at least similar to my old A200. I therefore experienced that the camera was more a diva than the A200 ever was (the latter delivering more keepers).
On the other hand, I was very restricted with the A200 to good light conditions (knowing that, I only used it then).
The A550 is being used at EVERY occasion - that might explain to me the lower average image quality I have now.
Long story short, the A200 was easier to tweak (as Vaughn, I changed the standard settings, though differently). With the A550 I only use landscape or portrait mode, both having acceptable tone curves for the reds (landscape having higher contrast, so -1 contrast, +1 color; portrait being very soft, therefore +1 contrast interestingly, color 0).
But still, I am longing for different tone curve options --> Firmware update, please.
So, do I keep the A550 and do not buy a D90 or a 500d or a A700?
The latter, I am still quite not sure about (while it had V4 firmware/3 updates, so I will give the same chances to the A550).
But I just NEED LV (do not want to ruin my eyes, shooting daylight with bright sunlight, some against sun = sunset), also for on screen metering (I just point around w/ spot m. to find the best and keep it with AEL). Also MF LV is cool. Auto HDR too.
The biggest PRO in comparison with the other competitors: Image Stabilization.
In this aspect I agree with many of the DPR critics that it should be mentioned specifically and more positively.
And that is why I keep the A550:
I use it mostly with a 28-75 Tamron, 17-70 Sigma and a 50/1.7 Minolta (= cheap lenses, as I have plenty of other hobbies and do not want to spend thousands on lenses).
These lenses I could use too with the 500d e.g., but at the cost of higher Iso maybe and therefore worse image quality.
So, for me, the A550 is beside all drawbacks recommended as an upgrade over the A200.
Faster shooting, surely much higher resolution (while not 40% more), similar image quality at base Iso, but more no-brainer conditions 24-7(Iso 1600 sometimes not recognizable in full screen), nicer LV on a big screen, faster AF.
Over 500d, D90: better image quality in low light if used with "cheap" non-IS lenses (while I do assume that Iso400 in A550 is better than Iso800 in 500d, D90).
So, the A550 maybe highly recommended for you, if you use it as a big time P&S camera (IF you use different settings than standard or vivid!!!) for crispy, lively pictures. In combination with relatively cheap lenses you might get the best overall package on the market for under 1000 € (is it 2000 $ already ;-), ok 1500 $).
As a former A200 owner, now having switched to the A550, I fully agree with the rating. Very good camera, but some things were hard to swallow...
The camera is certainly delivering excellent pictures - that being represented by the 8.5 score on picture quality (same as D5000 and 500d).
But there were certain drawbacks on my initial hopes to receive a camera without any major flaws (and that would be better as a D90 for instance).
So it is this weirdness that DPR described which I found true.
As somebody who has advanced knowledge about photography, I would like to use some of the missing features such as program shift.
If I were a beginner (as stated), I surely would have to know more about how to change the settings right, to get some better results.
So initially, I was disappointed by the first jpg pictures OOC - they were just as described very heavy on the reds and for my eyes much worse than the pictures I received from the A200. As mentioned by the DPR. (Now, I at least know that I am not insane).
So, I had to shoot more than 3000 pics to find parameters that were better or at least similar to my old A200. I therefore experienced that the camera was more a diva than the A200 ever was (the latter delivering more keepers).
On the other hand, I was very restricted with the A200 to good light conditions (knowing that, I only used it then).
The A550 is being used at EVERY occasion - that might explain to me the lower average image quality I have now.
Long story short, the A200 was easier to tweak (as Vaughn, I changed the standard settings, though differently). With the A550 I only use landscape or portrait mode, both having acceptable tone curves for the reds (landscape having higher contrast, so -1 contrast, +1 color; portrait being very soft, therefore +1 contrast interestingly, color 0).
But still, I am longing for different tone curve options --> Firmware update, please.
So, do I keep the A550 and do not buy a D90 or a 500d or a A700?
The latter, I am still quite not sure about (while it had V4 firmware/3 updates, so I will give the same chances to the A550).
But I just NEED LV (do not want to ruin my eyes, shooting daylight with bright sunlight, some against sun = sunset), also for on screen metering (I just point around w/ spot m. to find the best and keep it with AEL). Also MF LV is cool. Auto HDR too.
The biggest PRO in comparison with the other competitors: Image Stabilization.
In this aspect I agree with many of the DPR critics that it should be mentioned specifically and more positively.
And that is why I keep the A550:
I use it mostly with a 28-75 Tamron, 17-70 Sigma and a 50/1.7 Minolta (= cheap lenses, as I have plenty of other hobbies and do not want to spend thousands on lenses).
These lenses I could use too with the 500d e.g., but at the cost of higher Iso maybe and therefore worse image quality.
So, for me, the A550 is beside all drawbacks recommended as an upgrade over the A200.
Faster shooting, surely much higher resolution (while not 40% more), similar image quality at base Iso, but more no-brainer conditions 24-7(Iso 1600 sometimes not recognizable in full screen), nicer LV on a big screen, faster AF.
Over 500d, D90: better image quality in low light if used with "cheap" non-IS lenses (while I do assume that Iso400 in A550 is better than Iso800 in 500d, D90).
So, the A550 maybe highly recommended for you, if you use it as a big time P&S camera (IF you use different settings than standard or vivid!!!) for crispy, lively pictures. In combination with relatively cheap lenses you might get the best overall package on the market for under 1000 € (is it 2000 $ already ;-), ok 1500 $).
yakkosmurf
Senior Member
I thought the review was pretty well done. I don't have many complaints about any of the reviews though. They provide enough data in the review that you can easily make your own decisions about the value of the feature set. They think something should have video and I don't. But, they simply stated that and moved on, for example.
I learned a lot about the a550, and that's why I (or anyone else not owning the camera) would be reading it. The point is to be able to make a informed purchasing decision, and for me, it did just that. As an a700 owner, it was clear that this camera would not be an upgrade for me in many aspects I consider critical. Also, the defining features on this camera are not things I highly value. It takes very nice pictures, and clearly it would be a nice value for many users.
Overall, my impression of the a550 is a camera that's in an awkward spot in the lineup. It would certainly appeal to me if I was looking to upgrade from an advanced point and shoot to an above entry level DSLR. If I felt my a700 needed Live View, I might buy an a550 as a second body. But, it loses too many features advanced users might want. And that's the awkward position. Some great upgrade features for a lot of users, but losing features many will look for.
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I learned a lot about the a550, and that's why I (or anyone else not owning the camera) would be reading it. The point is to be able to make a informed purchasing decision, and for me, it did just that. As an a700 owner, it was clear that this camera would not be an upgrade for me in many aspects I consider critical. Also, the defining features on this camera are not things I highly value. It takes very nice pictures, and clearly it would be a nice value for many users.
Overall, my impression of the a550 is a camera that's in an awkward spot in the lineup. It would certainly appeal to me if I was looking to upgrade from an advanced point and shoot to an above entry level DSLR. If I felt my a700 needed Live View, I might buy an a550 as a second body. But, it loses too many features advanced users might want. And that's the awkward position. Some great upgrade features for a lot of users, but losing features many will look for.
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yakkosmurf
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This is a point I keep trying to make. The A550 is the best Live View camera available at any price. That makes it the best camera in the world for me -- and, quite possibly, for you.
Is it perfect? No. But neither is the D90. It lacks Live View -- a deal-breaker for me. So, as many disappointments as there may be, it is still the best option out there for me. And, if you keep your A550, you will have concluded that it is the best option for you.
In that case, it seems unfair to give the camera a low rating, or to admit that a low rating is deserved. There is simply no better camera in the world at doing what the A550 does. How many cameras can say that?
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Barry Fitzgerald
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Problem is I don't think Sony's fast AF live view is a huge seller, in fact I know it's not.
How? Well it's obvious other makers are selling far more cameras without it. So whilst your points might indeed be valid, they don't really cut the mustard in the market.
Like it or not, the D90 will sell far bigger than both A5xx models put together..
Canon will sell far more 500d's
To beat the master or champion, one must ist equal him. Sony are not doing this, they are not taking the fight to the top 2 makers.
Any half competent DSLR user can spot a mile away the mistakes being made, and not just here, but in other areas. Sony need good people to make great products, and they need to ditch this dumb cybershot DSLR concept, it's way off the mark, it's not working.
vaughanbb
Leading Member
This is where I agree with you, I have an A330, and for me, its just great, I cant fault it, reasons....fantastic Sony LV, Sony has the best LV and if thats important, then it just has to be a Sony, image quality is just terrific, again, I cant fault it....I just know for sure that I would love the A550, actually I may go for the 500, because I had an A700, loved the speed , but really missed the LV so I went back to the 330
So like you, the Sony A550 or the 500 would be the best DSLR for me of any DSLR on the market, the gripes about MLU, prog shift (whatever that is) etc are completely eclipsed by the SSS and the LV, I have several cycling events to shoot next month, and I am going to use either a 500 or a 550, either will be just great
I am really surprised by the negativity on this forum, because I really like the new Alphas, I genuinely find it hard to understand, its impossible to change opinions here, even if I were to post hundreds of great shots, there would still be a large number of people that claim the cameras suck, so I cant be bothered....oh and the AF is just amazing on these cameras
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Sony A330/kit lens samples here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35161694@N03/sets/72157622495084386/
Actually, segmenting the market and conquering an ignored niche is potentially a very successful strategy. There is NO WAY I would have considered Sony without Live View. I would have gone with the big boys. In fact, I started with a Nikon D40x. It was ONLY Live View that brought me to Sony.
And maybe if sites like DPR didn't treat it so poorly, more people would consider it and realize that it's MUCH better for them than the alternatives!
Personally I thought it was a fair review. However, based on your assessment I think a similar rating to the EP-1 might be in order.
Highly Recommended (though probably not for everyone).
Sonn Franken
Leading Member
I fully dissagree here with you. Sales in popular shop centra like MediaMarket and Dixons in The Netherlands show an increasing number of people going for the Sony cams with LV. They might not be the typical pro users as you may consider yourself. Nevertheless, more and more people coming from the P&S cams seem to want the DSLR output, yet use the style and convenience of the P&S. And that is where Sony steps in. May you like it or not, that is the growing market for them.
It is the others that come out with LV now, cause they see the value of it since Sony has put LV in there, like Olympus did. Nikon and Canon now do it too, and do a poorer job at it than Sony.
Having talked to several owners of shops, and having worked in vendor stores, it is obvious more and more Sony's are being sold. Increasing numbers especially in the entry DSLR market. Must be the ones stepping up from P&S.
For more professional (read more advanced users) Canon and Nikon are still THE more serious names when coming to chose equipment. That having said, as many already have experienced, go to the so called 'serious' salesmen and experience they are the ones pushing Canon and Nikon, since stll they consider all the rest as inferior. So sales themselves hold on to what was. It is surprisingly already that after only a few years Sony is even as far considered a threat to Canon and Nikon who were lightyears ahead.
Hmm, is it perhaps possible that Sony first targets a complete new segment of DSLR users? the ones stepping up from p&s maybe? They showed their skills with 700, now 900 and 850, but recognised there is a whole market out there just interested in a DSLR for a few bucks?
Video in cam was considered something to raise your eyebrows, it did not belong to a 'serious' DSLR shooter. Look now where the crowd is going? And now they even praise Nikon and Canon for having it on board and shoot Sony for not having it? Markets change, and so do brands to attract their customers.
Yes I think Canon and Nikon still offer better cams than Sony. But Sony for one has brought the battle to them. Thus causing the Canikkons to have a second look at what they bring out to which customers. WE profit both in price and in range of products we can buy.
Maybe you are one of the 'serious' users of a DSLR, maybe even a professional shooter. Yet you fail to see there are lot of people nowadays going for the entry DSLRs for a number of reason, of which already present 'professional' knowledge to photography is absent. Hmmm, but in a number of years they too will have learned and will be using more and more features that (to your eyes) earn them the rating 'not half competent DSLR users'.
Almost looks like some 4 years ago; if you were not shooting a DSLR but something infamous like a p&s (although as expensive as a 828 or r1), you would not be considered serious, or as you now put it 'half competent DSLR user'.
Seems to me all brands are looking for a piece of the market cake. Sony does not go in confrontation with the leaders head on, Nikon and Canon still offering perhaps the best cams, and for sure in DSLR show us the best sales figures. Yet,,,, it is partly the benefit of companies like Sony that cause Canon and Nikon to be less snobbish, and come out with a different line of equipment to prices we can afford. So as far as I am concerned, I welcome any brand with new ideas, or a different approach of the market, because it makes the more traditional brands think twice of what they are doing.
Canon and Nikon, being the superior established brands, can not lean back and just do what THEY think the market should be pleased with. The market benefits from the range of providers and the range of available products. Sony is contributing largely in that. Lol, however hard their market strategy is to follow according 'old school' expectations.
In the end we all benefit.
Meanwhile enjoy shooting with what you have.
Cheers, Sonn
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Barry Fitzgerald
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The last two shops I went into had stopped selling alpha cameras, reason given..simply not selling well enough, so I will have to disagree on this one.
But still manage to sell far more cameras! Point is, fast AF live view has it's own set of issues, no accurate DOF, less % coverage on the actual image..sensor based LV has pros and cons too.
Again as above, last 2 shop managers, said to me that the A200-350 models were pretty good sellers, and that since the new range was brought in, sales had dropped significantly, to the point where they simply ditched Sony, so I have to dispute if p&s buyers are a: buying that many DSLR's, or b: that interested in Sony ones.
They still are lightyears ahead on APS-C, FF sony has a trick card of being fairly affordable (well for FF anyway)
APS wise Sony are incredibly weak right now, even more so with a discontinued A700 and no replacement either. They have nothing to offer non gimmick photographers with the A2xx-A5xx models either.
Showing skill lower down the line would help, that's the problem right now..
Sony's lack of video surely hurts sales, I don't care much myself, but in the ever increasing competitive market, SSS ain't gonna sell them alone. They need it and yesterday. Why would a company hurt it's own sales for the sake of a feature that would be easy enough to add?
I bet Sony's entry level models are not selling anywhere near as well as the older one did, going backwards and downgrading was never a good marketing trick, whatever your product.
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Barry Fitzgerald
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For you maybe, but really SSS is not a killer seller, it's not enough on it's own.
For me the lack of very basic and expected functions in this level of camera mean it's not even on the bottom of my think about it list.
I can accept some folks have different needs to mind, so why can't you??
Great shots can be made with any camera, this is not a valid argument
There is nothing for users who wanted a mini A700, and don't care much about Sony's fast AF LV, you can debate how many no problems, but it's a lot more than just 1!
vaughanbb
Leading Member
Barry, I would bet that the A700 will be replaced with someting very soon, the new models are an experiment, I love them, many others do too, but are they selling enough to keep Sony happy ?....not sure, maybe Sony will change direction, but for some people....like me....Sony have done a great job, if you are correct, then they will just modify the concept slightly, it will be dead easy to do, basically thay are excellent cameras, which for marketing purposes may need a few features adding in the next round (if your claims are correct)
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