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D100 - sharpen ?? what a disaster ...

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why should the raw or tiff be sharp? I don't get it. You say you own lots of digital cameras yet don't know anything about the sensors that are out there. A digital sensor ALWAYS produces a picture that is soft, always... unless it comes from a foveon sensor but we'll have to see for that...
I would sugguest to try to be honest and try to learn from others in this forum.

at any rate, have fun with the canon and wish you the best with that...

what the hek maybe you should wait for the new canon 11 M pix pro SLR to come out. Then you'll have a big soft raw that is 11 M pixes big
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block michel said:
I'm very disappointed ...
Glen Cox said:
TURN ON YOUR CAMERA

PRESS "MENU" ON THE BACK

GO TO SHOOTING MENU

GO TO SHAPEN MENU

SET TO HIGH

sheesh
block michel said:
just using a D100 : about 50 pictures. it is NOT SHARP !!! my
coolpix WAS ABSOLUTELY BETTER than a D100 with the NIKKOR 28-85 AF
and D100.
I re-negotiate to purchase a D60 from CANON ...
it is a shame from NIKON: very very bad;
AVOID THIS BODY ...
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Here is a "soft" photo my D100 tool over the weekend.


block michel said:
just using a D100 : about 50 pictures. it is NOT SHARP !!! my
coolpix WAS ABSOLUTELY BETTER than a D100 with the NIKKOR 28-85 AF
and D100.
I re-negotiate to purchase a D60 from CANON ...
it is a shame from NIKON: very very bad;
AVOID THIS BODY ...
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The CP had much more detail because it was taken 3 to 4 times closer. However, I was able to sharpen the D100 image very well and make it look as sharp as the CP995 image.

Because of the different framing, there can be no comparison on detail.

I will agree (as I said) that the D100 is soft. I personally suspect this is to cover noise issues with the sensor. This seams to carry true to NEF conversions that are sharp but have a higher visual noise level.

That being said, however, I have seen some very nice images from this camera.

Steven
Dave Oddie said:
How do you reconcile the above statement with what Phil said in his
review of the D100 (bottom of page 17, Photographic tests) which is:

"Unfortunately it's not just a case of applying additional
sharpening to the JPEG files in the 'digital darkroom', it would
appear as though some detail has already been lost."

"some detail has laready been lost" is pretty unambiguous and backs
up the original posters position I would have thought.

From what I have read on here some users concur with Phils view and
note you must shoot in RAW mode to get sharper out of camera images.

I would have epxected a camera of the D100 class not to force you
to shoot RAW and/or post process images in order not to lose detail
as Phil pointed out.

As to being told "well shoot RAW then", I would imagine for
professionals they will want to get the detail out of the camera
with reasonable file sizes and not get involved with post
processing (time is money). That is they will expext JPEG to
deliver more than Phil shows us it does.

Amateurs who have the time and inclination can marvel at the
ability of the D100 in RAW mode but I have to say the way people
have got all defensive about the D100 shows they are less than
happy about this aspect of its performance despite being in denial
(LOL). In my humble opinion of course :-).

Dave
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block michel said:
a bad picture from D100 : it is not crisp no contrast and not sharpen
http://www.wezoppem.dns2go.com/gal_photos/d100/d100-bad.jpg

A simply good one with a COOLPIX 995:
http://www.wezoppem.dns2go.com/gal_photos/d100/coolpix_gppd.jpg
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OK. First if you are a professional these should be taken side by side at the same time, lighting, tripod camera position. The time from the "D100" is at 10:55 and the "coolpix" is at 3:45.

Just for startes it appears that you faked it. I understand and know firsthad, that the coolpix you can focus very close 3/4" (2cm) or less. Now if you dont own a macro lens for the D100, you'll never get as close. Lets see your comparisons apples to apples, same lighting, time, focus settings, etc.
 
Was this shot in JPEG or NEF? Any post processing?

Teski
Bill Grove said:

block michel said:
just using a D100 : about 50 pictures. it is NOT SHARP !!! my
coolpix WAS ABSOLUTELY BETTER than a D100 with the NIKKOR 28-85 AF
and D100.
I re-negotiate to purchase a D60 from CANON ...
it is a shame from NIKON: very very bad;
AVOID THIS BODY ...
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You see the commercial with the gecko that is slithering her tongue out? She sees a boy eating a candy that is also long and red like her tongue. He has one too. lol.
 
Thanks!
I usually apply USM in PSP7 to compensate for the resize , settings at
Radius=0.99 / Amount=45% / Clipping=5.

Colour (or color :) ) is untouched MODE III , white balance is always adjusted in camera and is pretty much a guess, but a quick shot review often is enough to know which way to go, but it always looks better than post pro WB.

All shots without Flash are EV +0.7 unless I'm using the 2xTC which then for some reason I have to go EV -1.0

I've recently ordered Thom's D100 guide and hope to squeeze a lot more out of this excellent cam.

,Jason

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D100 Gallery : http://www.radtweak.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/D100/
TSD said:
Your pictures are very impressive, how much editing is required to
get the sharpness and vibrant colors?
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Member said:
Do you find that at 300mm it is tough to hand hold?
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Sometimes yes. You have to aim for short shutter speeds in order to avoid motion blur if you want to hand hold this lens. But the 70-300ED it is not heavy and goes perfectly with the D-100 body and is good value for the money.

Walter
 
Dear all,

I am about to collect my D100 tomorrow. Can u guys say something positive about the cam? I am one who goes for sharp pcs. Can Boris please tell me what settings to use to get sharp pics from the first shot??
Thanks... Appreciate
Boris said:
block michel said:
just using a D100 : about 50 pictures. it is NOT SHARP !!! my
coolpix WAS ABSOLUTELY BETTER than a D100 with the NIKKOR 28-85 AF
and D100.
I re-negotiate to purchase a D60 from CANON ...
it is a shame from NIKON: very very bad;
AVOID THIS BODY ...
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I own the Fuji S2, a friend of mine owns a D100 BOTH take SHARP
pictues. All things being equal, you would be very hard pressed to
see a difference in a 11x14 print. BOTH ARE SHARP. If you
cannot take a sharp picture with the D100 you will not take a sharp
picture with the d60....OPERATOR ERROR!
It is a DEAD issue!
Boris

http://public.fotki.com/borysd/
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block michel said:
just using a D100 : about 50 pictures. it is NOT SHARP !!! my
coolpix WAS ABSOLUTELY BETTER than a D100 with the NIKKOR 28-85 AF
and D100.
I re-negotiate to purchase a D60 from CANON ...
it is a shame from NIKON: very very bad;
AVOID THIS BODY ...
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Hi,

You can try this experiment which I've done :
Mount your D100 on a very stable tripod.

Under good lighting (no flash needed), take a page of colourful well printed text with the Nikon 60mm micro lens, Iso 200, F11, 1/4 sec. (It is preferable to have textured paper for better comparison later).

Record using the following options : Uncompressed Raw format, Tiff, Jpeg -- all taken at maximun resollution -- each shot alternate between Auto and then High sharpening.

All images are then viewed on the computer monitor at 100% magnification with Photoshop 7. (version 7 of Photoshop can read the Raw Nikon files well).

Result of experiment :

1. The Raw format which records at 12 bit colour gives a very sharp image at Auto sharpening ; at High sharpening, the image is impeccable. Colour rendering and texture of the paper is more accurate with the other file formats.

2. The Tiff format give results almost like the Raw format - but still lose out to the Raw format in terms of sharpness and colour depth. The difference is very minor. For a much smaller file size, the Raw format is still more worthwhile.

3. The Jpeg format gives the worst result in terms of sharpness and colour depth. I think most of the complaints in this forum is targeted at Jpeg format with Auto sharpening. However, with High Sharpening option, the Jpeg format is still very acceptable and comes close to the Highly Sharpened Tiff format and almost the same as the Auto Sharpening Raw format.

Conclusion from my personal experiment :

The Uncompressed Raw format is still the best in terms of sharpness and colour depth. You can use the High Sharpening option for even better result, but the difference between the High and Auto sharpening for Raw format is small (this is not the case for Jpeg -- in which case, the picture sharpness difference is day and night).

Have fun. I don't think the complaints about the lack of sharpness is justfiable. Just shoot at Raw Format then.
 
Michel:

I bought a Canon D 60 and I was dissatisfied with it because of its lack of sharpness. I switched to a Nikon D100 three weeks ago and I am getting better results. I am a true professional and have shot with medium and large format cameras for over 40 years. Yes, I am old but savvy. I'd say that the Nikon D100 is sharper than what you think it is. You are not using it the right way. May I suggest that you read the manual thoroughly. The report from SGI that came out last week says that the Nikon D100 is slightly sharper than the D60. To my eyes and to the eyes of most critics, the D100 is sharper than the D60. Period. Your postings are only reinforcing others that you lack good judgement and that you are no professional by any means.
block michel said:
The result is always the same: a LACK OF SHARPNESS !!

Why to be so ANGRY for the first time ?
Because NIKON needs to be a concurrent of others bodies AND NIKON
cannot follows this TIME with the SONY CCD SENSOR ...
that's the truth
SO and maybe the next body will be very better
MEANWHILE = IT IS NOT ....
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Joe Hoddinott said:
He's been a member for 5 hours and this was his first post - I
don't think he's here to contribute much.

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