And neither are you!
And maybe you should try it.
As you have done as well.
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Ron_M
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Ron_M
tdkd13
Veteran Member
OK, great, now that we have the teams decided and the lines drawn, when's the war? 
Seriously though, Ron_M, I get your point here, its a fair point, one that is often missed but still a fair point.
Should we start planning an exit strategy, that seems the prudent thing, no?
Take care, Ted
http://photobucket.com/albums/y260/tdkd13/
Seriously though, Ron_M, I get your point here, its a fair point, one that is often missed but still a fair point.
Should we start planning an exit strategy, that seems the prudent thing, no?
Take care, Ted
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http://photobucket.com/albums/y260/tdkd13/
Ron_M
JB
I am not a photographer, I’m just a guy that takes pictures.
http://www.buckshot.BuckshotsPhotos.photoshare.co.nz
http://www.fujimugs.com/mugshots/show_member.php?country=&act=&hasmug=&challenge=&cat=&sortby=&sortdir=&thumb=&srch=&member=1341
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JB
I am not a photographer, I’m just a guy that takes pictures.
http://www.buckshot.BuckshotsPhotos.photoshare.co.nz
http://www.fujimugs.com/mugshots/show_member.php?country=&act=&hasmug=&challenge=&cat=&sortby=&sortdir=&thumb=&srch=&member=1341
Velvet Ant
Senior Member
JB....I think Ron is participating in what one would call, 'feeding off of us'.
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Jada
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Jada
Hi Lloydy,
That is the original file once I edit it to my own satisfaction I do not keep the original=sorry. I would have nothing but images on my hard drive. If I think I improved the image I delete the original. However thanks again and FYI I think the posts you did here are very very lovely.
Cheers as you would say, Gary N W SFO
That is the original file once I edit it to my own satisfaction I do not keep the original=sorry. I would have nothing but images on my hard drive. If I think I improved the image I delete the original. However thanks again and FYI I think the posts you did here are very very lovely.
Cheers as you would say, Gary N W SFO
Velvet Ant
Senior Member
All of your hard work was for nothing, so I guess it's 'thanks for nothing Dave'.
'AND oh yeah, I don't know why I didn't mention that I had deleted my original amid all your wool-gathering which would have saved you a lot of time and effort in testing because in the end I think my photo looks boss, regardless.'
'As you know, I ask for feedback but do I have to agree ------ NO!'
Unfortunately, there is a definite pattern here. This isn't rocket science.
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Jada
'AND oh yeah, I don't know why I didn't mention that I had deleted my original amid all your wool-gathering which would have saved you a lot of time and effort in testing because in the end I think my photo looks boss, regardless.'
'As you know, I ask for feedback but do I have to agree ------ NO!'
Unfortunately, there is a definite pattern here. This isn't rocket science.
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Jada
Billx08
Forum Pro
That may be true but at least I've tried. You haven't.
Wrong, unless it's a choice between concord and animosity that you're talking about. The only two people that were referenced in my message were Ron and buckshot and I sided with neither, only stating that one was guilt of a "fairly mild poke" and the other "may have overreacted a bit". Oh, I get it now. When you greatly overreacted, choosing to side with one and telling the other to engage his brain, you didn't like having your unfairness and animosity pointed out. Yes, if it comes to choosing sides, I'll take Gary and buckshot over you any day.
I'm really not surprised at your aggressive animosity though. Several months ago you also overreacted to a funny joke posted in this forum. To refresh your memory, it went like this :
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1012&message=33350380&changemode=1
I wasn't aware when I wrote the above that the guy that posted the joke has a speech problem, and he said that not only did he think that it was funny but that the joke was sent to him by a friend that also has a speech problem. It's quite clear that once again when I tried to unruffle your feathers you chose to respond by attacking. I'd hoped that it was possible for some old dogs to learn new tricks but now I know better.
Velvet Ant
Senior Member
Ted, don't you think this is a bit too harsh?
I hope this doesn't mean that you aren't going to let me be Sammy.
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Jada
Please note something here. I did not name a single name here when I said rat pack. You know why? Because they know who they are! I posted a pic for comments and/or suggestions AND more baloney is flying. I guess some folks just must conclude they are part of the pack and perhaps feeling a bit guilty since I named no one specifically. And more specifically I do not wish to be friends with such folks that go on and on about nothing!
IF I wanted to be real insulting I might have said Gang of Five! But did I?
Honestly I am not looking for friends here but if it happens all the better! If not please everyone do not mistake me for "Ole Lonely Guy"! I am hearing from some really nice contributors to this forum for years via my email. Some tell me they like the images I post and they tell me when the don't like them and how I could improve on them. SOMETIMES I try what they suggest and other times I just don't agree and do not make the changes. Yet I do not get angry about their comments in the slightest. What I do not take to is ongoing arguments totally unrelated to photographs of the Fuji Cameras or personal attacks! Then I sling the mud back.
But always remember that "Out of the Mud grows a Lilly". So be it! I will have a few friends that truly are friends and many that are not proving to me by their antics and personal attacks that they are indeed not friends. Yet they will survive and so will I.
Am I mutated I don't think so but anything is possible. I know there has been a full Moon out there lately.
And last but not least I have asked a few commenting in here, not about my photo, to PLEASE NOT BE MY FRIEND. How else can I say it more nicely? Insofar as I am concerned with friend's like these who needs enemies?
Let's get back to commenting or the pics or the camera and leave the baloney out of my thread.
Gary N W SFO
IF I wanted to be real insulting I might have said Gang of Five! But did I?
Honestly I am not looking for friends here but if it happens all the better! If not please everyone do not mistake me for "Ole Lonely Guy"! I am hearing from some really nice contributors to this forum for years via my email. Some tell me they like the images I post and they tell me when the don't like them and how I could improve on them. SOMETIMES I try what they suggest and other times I just don't agree and do not make the changes. Yet I do not get angry about their comments in the slightest. What I do not take to is ongoing arguments totally unrelated to photographs of the Fuji Cameras or personal attacks! Then I sling the mud back.
But always remember that "Out of the Mud grows a Lilly". So be it! I will have a few friends that truly are friends and many that are not proving to me by their antics and personal attacks that they are indeed not friends. Yet they will survive and so will I.
Am I mutated I don't think so but anything is possible. I know there has been a full Moon out there lately.
And last but not least I have asked a few commenting in here, not about my photo, to PLEASE NOT BE MY FRIEND. How else can I say it more nicely? Insofar as I am concerned with friend's like these who needs enemies?
Let's get back to commenting or the pics or the camera and leave the baloney out of my thread.
Gary N W SFO
If Ted won't let you be Sammy, I'll let you be Sammy.
My Sammy was a Chameleon from Africa (R.I.P. little guy). He had a scaffold made of bamboo set into an open terrarium and roamed freely in my room.
I tied red yarn to him so I could spot him more easily if he went exploring. If he was off the scaffold like on a shelf or scampering in slow motion across my bed he'd give me this guilty look like "I know I'm not on my scaffold, but a Chameleon has to roam. Oh, and we're all out of crickets - pick up some more wouldja?"
Each morning he'd go to the mini-blind for sun.
One morning, many many years ago, I was particularly hung over and slept in. Ordinarily, he'd grasp the little aluminum slats and poke his head through if I slept in, otherwise I'd always raise the blind because those slats are slippery.
That morning he slipped. I heard him zip down the blind...clink-clink-clink-clink-thunk. He fractured his hip or had a dislocation or something. Sammy was a fighter, but he was never the same.
He dragged himself everywhere...the senior prom, homecoming, hayrides, even the Sadie Hawkins dance though no girl asked him.
Finally he succumbed. It was a good run of several years we were together.
I would consider it an honor if you would be...Sammy.
My Sammy was a Chameleon from Africa (R.I.P. little guy). He had a scaffold made of bamboo set into an open terrarium and roamed freely in my room.
I tied red yarn to him so I could spot him more easily if he went exploring. If he was off the scaffold like on a shelf or scampering in slow motion across my bed he'd give me this guilty look like "I know I'm not on my scaffold, but a Chameleon has to roam. Oh, and we're all out of crickets - pick up some more wouldja?"
Each morning he'd go to the mini-blind for sun.
One morning, many many years ago, I was particularly hung over and slept in. Ordinarily, he'd grasp the little aluminum slats and poke his head through if I slept in, otherwise I'd always raise the blind because those slats are slippery.
That morning he slipped. I heard him zip down the blind...clink-clink-clink-clink-thunk. He fractured his hip or had a dislocation or something. Sammy was a fighter, but he was never the same.
He dragged himself everywhere...the senior prom, homecoming, hayrides, even the Sadie Hawkins dance though no girl asked him.
Finally he succumbed. It was a good run of several years we were together.
I would consider it an honor if you would be...Sammy.
Velvet Ant
Senior Member
Ah Dotbalm, that's a touching tale. I could picture everything as I read through your comments. Thanks for sharing that, and for letting me be Sammy.
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Jada
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Jada
Please let's not turn an issue that was totally directed at ME by a few or more into a battle with your friends over semantics! You were 100% correct that the Rat Pack referred to the elite of Hollywood entertainers. But please it is my problem and I do not wish you to get into hastles with old friends over what are my problems. PLEASE!
FYI I have always found you to be very fair, honest and direct. And a fine contributor to the FTF forum. I think of you as a friend but then that might be dangerous for you. Honestly please do not lose any friends over my problems here.
Best Gary N W SFO
FYI I have always found you to be very fair, honest and direct. And a fine contributor to the FTF forum. I think of you as a friend but then that might be dangerous for you. Honestly please do not lose any friends over my problems here.
Best Gary N W SFO
Velvet Ant
Senior Member
Man in the Mirror. And oh....this statement is very revealing. If a doubt still exists in anybody's mind that the rat pack comment wasn't an attack, here we have a self-admission of such. But it's okay, because names were not....named. And because people who are part of the rat pack are people that this person does not wish to be friends with. Hum...sounds like an attack to me for sure, Shirley.
Actually, there are many more than five in your so-called rat pack. After all, if not for Dave's olive leaf, this thread would have received ZERO responses, just like I predicted yesterday.
But his olive leaf lent the opportunity for you to 'dig one out' - a long, green one at that with the rat pack attack. Appears for one who is doing his best to avoid trouble, that he wouldn't sling out mud or long green ones.
Gary angry? Certainly not. Just....Scorched Earth angry.
Out of the mud grows a pig...
Yes, nothing like getting mooned.
Nicely? Back to Jekyll. Or is it Hyde? I'm nice. I'm good. People love me. And I'm worth it.
After all, I'm the guy with the special computer built by Santa's special elves. If I push certain keys, certain people better watch out.
In other words, comment on the photo and it better be good or there is a high risk of another meltdown.
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Jada
Velvet Ant
Senior Member
Obviously, you're having some difficulties keeping your story straight, Gary. Just mere minutes ago you said:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=33891570
NOW, you just commented that Ron was correct in his comments, that your Rat Pack referred to the elite of Hollywood entertainers.
Which is it? Hollywood entertainers? Or, the nameless rat pack because they know who they are?
Right. Only a couple of days ago, you felt the same way towards me. You're all for somebody as long as they agree 100% with you.
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Jada
Jada
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JB
I am not a photographer, I’m just a guy that takes pictures.
http://www.buckshot.BuckshotsPhotos.photoshare.co.nz
http://www.fujimugs.com/mugshots/show_member.php?country=&act=&hasmug=&challenge=&cat=&sortby=&sortdir=&thumb=&srch=&member=1341
ok I am good with that
hmmm Good old Dean hit the suace I don't get that impression from Kim ... but the rest will do
Ahhh old blue eyes
I will go with that
Baaahaahaa .... I will defer to Gus no one has ever accused me of being handsome :-D
short people got ....nooobody :-(
who knows ... very funny Jada thanks for lighting it up a bit....
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JB
I am not a photographer, I’m just a guy that takes pictures.
http://www.buckshot.BuckshotsPhotos.photoshare.co.nz
http://www.fujimugs.com/mugshots/show_member.php?country=&act=&hasmug=&challenge=&cat=&sortby=&sortdir=&thumb=&srch=&member=1341
tdkd13
Veteran Member
Thats the "improved" version?
Wow, in all seriousness, and speaking strictly of photography here Gary, there are many here that could help you work these issues out if you give them the chance. I'm sure you must be seeing the same thing everyone else sees, or is it simply an "Emperors new clothes moment" in which case, I didnt say anything.
Nice suit though.
Ted
http://photobucket.com/albums/y260/tdkd13/
Wow, in all seriousness, and speaking strictly of photography here Gary, there are many here that could help you work these issues out if you give them the chance. I'm sure you must be seeing the same thing everyone else sees, or is it simply an "Emperors new clothes moment" in which case, I didnt say anything.
Nice suit though.
Ted
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http://photobucket.com/albums/y260/tdkd13/
Ok, fess up .... who did it?
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JB
I am not a photographer, I’m just a guy that takes pictures.
http://www.buckshot.BuckshotsPhotos.photoshare.co.nz
http://www.fujimugs.com/mugshots/show_member.php?country=&act=&hasmug=&challenge=&cat=&sortby=&sortdir=&thumb=&srch=&member=1341
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JB
I am not a photographer, I’m just a guy that takes pictures.
http://www.buckshot.BuckshotsPhotos.photoshare.co.nz
http://www.fujimugs.com/mugshots/show_member.php?country=&act=&hasmug=&challenge=&cat=&sortby=&sortdir=&thumb=&srch=&member=1341
Lots of cameras: hundreds of dollars...
Deleting original files: priceless.
Of all the components on a computer, storage memory is inexpensive. A new HD vid card, RAM for a current gen PC, high end printer ink, they are not cheap.
However, storage in the form internal hard drives, external hard drives, naked hard drives, portable USB hard drives drives, even RAID 0 and 1 are fairly inexpensive.
Why work to get the exposure correct and fill the sensor with photons if you then walk away from the original forever more have a degraded JPG to work with. Assumption: you work with lossy formats only.
The thought that you would delete an original which unlike your 'imporved' JPG has not been further compressed in the ensuing save process, and not be able to go back with improved software, improved pp skills, fresh ideas is...well, I guess it's par for the course.
People improve at their hobbies. One's eye for composition, light, subject matter improves. Given you are a landscape photographer and given the variation in snowfall, foliage growth, even climate change, there is good reason to go back and view your photos. Having the originals allows you to go back and apply your new skills and technology or provide a reference for an area you hold dear. Even if the camera technology changes, you still have so many opportunities from which you are walking away.
Par for the course.
PS: Don't respond, I know you're not reading this.
tdkd13
Veteran Member
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