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Who is waiting for the 5D M III instead of buying the M II?

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Maybe what you wrote was so irrelevant it wouldn't let you edit it. Every time someone posts one of these "wait?" threads, someone like you has to post some nonsense about not being able to take pictures. Most people contemplating the purchase of a 5D2 at least have a crop SLR, and 99% have some form of camera in their possession. Waiting is a real option for them.

If we were on a car forum and someone were wondering if the 2011 model XYZ was going to be better, would you laugh at that person and tell them how much driving they were going to miss out on over the next year? Seriously.
 
Wait? For what? For hypothetical mk III? Why can't I wait while shooting with excellent mk II? :) No way i will wait, I prefer to shot and not to wait for any minute of my life :)
 
The 5DMKII is not exactly chopped liver in terms of AF. There are millions of people using DSLR cameras with worse AF than the MkII, including Rebel users and 20D, 30D, 40D users. The 5D series have additional invisible AF points, not found even in the 50D. Yes, there is a good chance the 5DMKIII will likely have improved AF, but what do you do now? If you are using the original 5D, then may be you can wait. But if you are contemplating getting the 7D instead, then you are giving up image quality and high ISO quality for perhaps slightly better AF. Unless you have trouble getting properly focused images, there is no reason to wait. In the Challenges sections of DP Review, the 5D and 40D are among the most popular cameras used by Canon users. These images are properly focuses, so don't think that unless you have the 5D MKIII, you won't be getting images that are correctly focused.
cabasner said:
I am just curious. I ordered a Mark II, and had it in my hands about 4 months ago, but there was a defect in the LCD screen that gave me a reason to return it. After pondering for awhile, I asked for a refund instead of a new replacement camera. My thought. with the 7D just out, the next version of the 5D will just HAVE to have improved focus, ala the 7D, right? Of course, we all know that any such thoughts are just guesses, so I'm not asking that here. I'm just wondering how many have considered the Mark II, and have decided to wait for the Mark III, hoping for improved autofocus, and maybe some improvements in video capture.
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Curt Basner
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I'm currently using a 5D. Actually, one of the features I am really anxious to have is the autofocus micro-adjust. My 5D is a great machine, but tends to front focus on most of my lenses. Being able to do that adjustment myself would be fabulous!
 
We saw no reason to upgrade from 5D mkI to mkII. Not enough improvements in actual image quality to warrant the move. Lotsa nice whistles and bells, but no improvement in AF, overload in pixels, no major improvement in frame rate, the only significant upgrade was ISO, as far as we were concerned. Video was nice, but not necessary, or at least it wasn't at the time. Sensor cleaner is cool, but no a deal breaker/maker.
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cabasner said:
I am just curious. I ordered a Mark II, and had it in my hands about 4 months ago, but there was a defect in the LCD screen that gave me a reason to return it. After pondering for awhile, I asked for a refund instead of a new replacement camera. My thought. with the 7D just out, the next version of the 5D will just HAVE to have improved focus, ala the 7D, right? Of course, we all know that any such thoughts are just guesses, so I'm not asking that here. I'm just wondering how many have considered the Mark II, and have decided to wait for the Mark III, hoping for improved autofocus, and maybe some improvements in video capture.
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5D2 AF is much better than the 5D, as I have had both camera's, you need to use to find out, not just keep reading reports on the forums of people who have never used one, its a great camera, anyone will wait another 2 yrs for a 5D3, its better to buy the 5D2 & get some great pictures, & actual low light focus lock on is better than the 1DS3

Trevor
 
I don't have enough €€€ to buy every version of Canon bodies, and 5D (mark I) is still excellent for wide-angle use. My 40D on the other hand was getting seriously outdated by 7D.
 
Trevor Allen said:
5D2 AF is much better than the 5D, as I have had both camera's, you need to use to find out, not just keep reading reports on the forums of people who have never used one, its a great camera, anyone will wait another 2 yrs for a 5D3, its better to buy the 5D2 & get some great pictures, & actual low light focus lock on is better than the 1DS3

Trevor
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But, you see, I'm getting great photos now, with the 5D. What's the point in laying out $5400 (we have to buy 2) for minimal differences in IQ? You are the only one who's commented that the AF is "much" better in the mkII than the mkI, including several who do have both. There have been reports of incremental differences, laid at the feet of the processor, but I really don't have huge issues with the AF of the mkI, so, again, why spend that much money to upgrade? The 5D mkI still produces stunning images for us.
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If you are happy with your 5D images then you would be amazed at 5DMK2 images. What the extra resolution does is increase the detail you see in your images. Even at relatively small images (8 X 10) you can see the difference. The extra bit depth helps to smooth tonal transitions. Don't get me wrong. I loved the 5D, but the 5DMK2 IQ is at a different level.

Of course all of this assumes you are shooting raw. If you are shooting jpegs than the difference may be minimized.

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cabasner said:
I am just curious. I ordered a Mark II, and had it in my hands about 4 months ago, but there was a defect in the LCD screen that gave me a reason to return it. After pondering for awhile, I asked for a refund instead of a new replacement camera. My thought. with the 7D just out, the next version of the 5D will just HAVE to have improved focus, ala the 7D, right?
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Silly proposition that a 5D3 is coming out soon... The 5D2 was recently released with Canon continuing to beef-up fabrication to meet increasing demand... for a camera that has been on a 3 year development cycle. So if your are waiting, you'll likely have 2 more years for a 5D3.

Owning and have tested both the 5D, 5D2 and the 50D and 7D among other models dating back to mid-1990s; the 7D is basically a 5D2 using a sub-FF imager of 187MP; however, with improvements and better/easier access to the wonderful HDTV feature set.

Unless your lens collection/shooting requires ultra-wide angle perspective, get the 7D and enjoy the added benefit of a pop-up flash with 5D2 image quality and others features in a very sturdy camera; no "step-child" to the 5D2 and not a "ho-hum" step-up from the 50D... the 7D is the best "Advanced Amateur" "Semi-Pro" Canon Camera ever built.

Here are some family vacation images at Disney World taken with the 7D, and a 45second HDTV video clip

http://www.416-1100.com/Family-Photos/Marilyn-and-Jim-Wilson-Family/Disney-World-2009-Oct-Shades-/10087756_nrkvB#692562311_PEvqK-X2-LB

http://www.416-1100.com/Family-Photos/Marilyn-and-Jim-Wilson-Family/Disney-World-2009-Oct-Shades-/10087756_nrkvB#694404290_EKLvB-A-LB

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For JimW,

Thanks so much for posting the 7D images and your thoughts. I was impressed with the quality of the video and he stills. Something to consider...
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jerryk said:
If you are happy with your 5D images then you would be amazed at 5DMK2 images. What the extra resolution does is increase the detail you see in your images. Even at relatively small images (8 X 10) you can see the difference. The extra bit depth helps to smooth tonal transitions. Don't get me wrong. I loved the 5D, but the 5DMK2 IQ is at a different level.

Of course all of this assumes you are shooting raw. If you are shooting jpegs than the difference may be minimized.

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How much more freakin' detail do you want?
http://www.pbase.com/skipm/image/108373086

Link to image because, for some reason, DPR reduces the size. Shot raw, converted to JPEG for posting, no other modifications.

That's about as detailed as it can get. I have yet to see a single image posted here or anywhere else that exceeds the level of overall IQ of the 5D by enough to justify the expenditure of $2700x2. I'm not saying that the 5D mkII isn't a good camera, and if I didn't already have a 5D, it'd be in our camera bags even as we speak.
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I take it you have used the 7D for sport - why is it that some posters are having 'issues' with the 7D and deciding against them?

Or is it just the usual pettiness of misinformed and perceived problems/rumour.

Zoooming
JimW said:
Unless your lens collection/shooting requires ultra-wide angle perspective, get the 7D and enjoy the added benefit of a pop-up flash with 5D2 image quality and others features in a very sturdy camera; no "step-child" to the 5D2 and not a "ho-hum" step-up from the 50D... the 7D is the best "Advanced Amateur" "Semi-Pro" Canon Camera ever built.
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Skip,

You are quite right, that image you linked to was amazing in terms of detail. I can get that level of quality with my 5D as well. It is, however, always nice to have additional image quality to allow for printing as big as desired without having to worry too much about whether there is enough data there to support it. For me, the 'upgrade' to a Mark II (or Mark III) isn't about IQ, which is ALWAYS the number one issue, being a portrait photographer. It's the other things the camera does. The better LCD, the video, and, as I'd written previously, the micro adjust for focusing, which at this point is one of the really big advantages that I can see.
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Curt Basner
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And Canon give us all cross type focussing better spread out. Don't want/need more points to rival 1D series.

I also hope they stop the MP race and give us the same as 5dII but with better DR and less pesky NR software scrambling of detail a la 50D and others...
 
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