Developing an "eye"

Great question, great answers. Thanks for having the courage (eye) to post it. I think I understand your question. But, what makes you think your "eye" is not developed. Didn't see any pictures. Like you, my wife see things differently and takes those pictures. I love her choices and wish I saw that too, but I didn't. Don't know why...maybe I have to talk to my analyst. Who's to say your "eye" is less than/more than anyone else. I like Thom's response and found Bryan Peterson's books most helpful to me so far, though I'm a real rookie. Did I see (eye) the "right thing"...don't know, did I take a photo of what inspired me in the best way possible? Can you push your camera in someone's face, lie on the ground, stand on a ladder, or whatever "odd" behavior is required to get what inspired you? Then take the picture, share the results.
 
FWIW. During my tenure as a "photographer" I to have been in the same senario you are experiencing now. For me I've come to this conclusion,you can read a myriad of books, look at all the works of the so called masters to try and develope the "eye". The bottom line is WHO are you trying to satisfy with your captures? Some self proclaimed critic, or yourself. My suggestion is, master your equipment so you know what to expect, exposure,lighting,composition,etc. Then pick a subject,anything, flowers, scenes. Try different angles,distances exposures etc. when you find something you really like, you're on your way.

When I shot for clients (many) over the years I shot what "they" liked and got paid well. When I shot for myself then I shot what I wanted, how I wanted until I got what I wanted. Printed the results and $ht canned the rest.

The means justify the results, Im satisfied. It won't happen over night, but I'm confident it will. Practic,practice OH did I mention practice.
GOOD LUCK
 
Hey, anonymous, don't give up so easily, there's hope for you too. All you need is devotion and confidence. Practice, practice, practice and one day you may be able to climb the threshold. And from there on, only the sky is the limit.
not sure whether you were addressing me and, if that's the case, what you meant by the aforesaid, but I wasn't the one looking for the creative eye.
Of course I was addressing you. Your quasi-religious negativity is getting boring. But I'm sure you can open your mind if you try hard enough.
 
not sure whether you were addressing me and, if that's the case, what you meant by the aforesaid, but I wasn't the one looking for the creative eye.
Of course I was addressing you. Your quasi-religious negativity is getting boring. But I'm sure you can open your mind if you try hard enough.
If you sense any negativity, blame your perception of truth. If it's too boring to handle, then skip to another post/thread.

I don't need to open my mind, for I do not seek advice on how to find a "creative eye". You, on the other hand, should surround yourself with less folks who pay lip service and unnecessarily boost your confidence instead of saying the truth.
 
I like this response!

My wife and I travel a fair amount and we end up taking photos of the same things - well, sort of. She just sees things that I don't. Technically, my photos are "sometimes" better than hers - but she's just a natural for finding the right perspective and the right time. My approach now is to concentrate on the things that really interst me rather than the generic shots and just shoot a lot (memory cards are cheap). My success rate? - about 15%. As others have mentioned post your photos and let others react to them - this has been very enlightening for me.
 
"The difference between bad artists and good ones is: the bad ones seem to copy a great deal; the good ones really do."

While my formal education was mostly in technical fields, I have had a life-long interest in various arts, including music, drawing and painting, calligraphy, graphic design and photography. In trying to develop my artistic skills I've found Blake's insight to be very true: When you're learning, seek out good work and try to copy it. At first, your copies will be "bad art," as they will be obvious, and poor, attempts at copying. But over time, your understanding of the methods employed by the great artist you're copying will improve, as will your technical skills, and the more people you try to copy, the more your artistic "vocabulary" will expand.

Eventually, you'll find the elements of this new vocabulary will just pop automatically into your mind, and you'll begin to develop your own slants on them, your own combinations and permutations, and a sense of personal style. You may even do something "truly original" - but as the Blake quote implies, "truly original" is, in fact, a very rare commodity, simply because so many great artists have gone before you and tried so many different approaches already.

I can't argue persuasively whether "anyone" can be taught to be creative or not, since I haven't met everyone. But my experience has been that people who are willing to put in the work can improve their creativity, or "eye," if you will. In my own case, I have been able to develop some of my skills well enough that I run a small part-time graphic design business in my retirement, and have had some of my work published in books and magazines alongside the work of full-time pros. So it has worked for me, at least in a modest way. Will it work for you? Try it and find out.

Ray
 
Well said Ray!
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Tim
http://myfotoguy.zenfolio.com

'Photos immortalize moments in time: Blessings, joy, suffering, history, humanity. They encapsulate our lives and give testimony to God's work here on earth.' -Unknown

 
first of all, we're talking about artistic creativity.
Care to try to define "artistic"? I don't use the "I know it when I see it" definition.
something more generally accepted
Accepted by whom? As art? Or as creative?
there are N ways to photograph a given subject. you can see people photographing the same building, bridge, monument in touristic places. most of those photos (in the 90th percentile) will end up being boring, plain shots. why?
Well, the cynic in me says that they were told to keep the horizon straight, put the building at a one-third point, and a host of other things, which means they'll get the same picture as 99.9% of the people who stand there. Boring. The really cynical Thom would say that they were told that all they need is a good camera to take good pictures. They have a good camera. They're standing where they know there must be a good picture, because they've seen one from here. So they put the camera to their face and press the Take Good Picture button.

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Thom Hogan
author, Complete Guides to Nikon bodies (21 and counting)
http://www.bythom.com
 
Inspiring. Thank you Ray. There is hope then, very will said and delivered.

Happy Thanksgiving all - One more thing to be thankful for, the ability to observe, learn and apply.
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Alan

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A real artist is the one born to share
 
1) Use a "prime" lens (or if you must, a zoom at one focal length)

2) shoot it a lot

3) Critically review your work within a day or 2 of each shoot - but NOT when tired

Best.
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Vaya con Dios
imo
(c) 2009 fastglass
 
Wow, I wasn't expecting this much of a response..It will take me quite a while to digest all the info I've gotten from you all and I appreciate it very much..I guess for it to make sense, I should give a little back ground..Up till about 4 years ago, the only photos I took were with the paper throw aways...I have been a race fan my whole life and really enjoyed looking at some of the local photogs works on various racing websites. I bought an Olympus point and shoot and took a few photos and they actually turned out quite well..The following year I upgraded to a D50 and the 18-55 and 55-200 lenses and got a cheap flash and my photos greatly improved..Thats pretty much what i've been doing the last 4 years(with the exception of a couple commercial shoots for friends)...At the track, I am good at finding the angles that the others miss and my work has been published in a few racing publications..I have also made a fair amount of money selling my work to race teams, sponsors, and fans and I get a lot great positive feedback from people about the quality of my photos...But when I take a walk down the street, I can walk a mile and not find something that "pops" out at me...but then someone else can take the same walk and have all kinds of photos of really neat things...I enjoy photography and want to expand outside of racing(the dirt and humidity are killers on gear), but it gets frustrating knowing I am missing opportunities....Thanks again for all the replys
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D300 and 2 D50's....
 
There are many ways to develop a creative eye, and limits for different individuals are of course different, I'll come back to this in a bit.

First, Can you answer these questions?
  • What do you want to photograph?
  • Why do you want to photograph it?
I think many people have different answers to these questions, and I think they (our answers to those questions) affect our photographs alot. I have wrestled with subject matter for some time, and found that my photography is altered significantly by my goals before shooting.

A simple creative exercise.
first you need an Idea.

Choose a message, or a concept. It could be important or nonsensical, some examples...

"fire requiem with butter" "Ice blue eyes" "I love the environment" "don't eat broccoli" "Photon's travel on null-space geodesics" "Love" "Hate" "Ice cream".

Let that be your goal. - let it be the answer to those above questions. "I want to photograph don't eat broccoli" "I wan't to photograph it because I want to say "Don't eat broccoli" Now you've got to solve the puzzle of how to send the message with a photograph, you'll probably end up getting creative in finding the answer.

Going back to the many ways to improve your creative eye - I believe visual language is a skill, like spoken language. Some people have more innate ability than others, learning can benefit anyone. Like a speaking and writing, if you want to be a good speaker, you should listen to many speaches and practice speaking. To be a good writer you should read many compositions and write many compositions.

When you say, "I would have never thought to take a photo of that" - you might want to look back on your goals, do they make it easier or harder for you to think in a new way? Like many of the above posters say, you should view many photographs, and take many photographs. Practice is essential, Another creative excersize is to give yourself goals, just as in learning technique, you can practice composition too. Go out, and find 6 new ways of shooting each subject you find interesting - don't allow the shots themselves to be echo's of eachother.

You don't have to have goals before you shoot, you don't have to know why you want to take photographs or what you want to take photos of, but it can certainly be helpful. It's difficult to go from being a big kid effin around with a camera, to saying something meaningful. Choosing subject matter, and what to say, I think is more difficult, than composing.

And the next time you have the thought "I wonder what it would look like from here" or "I wonder if this would work" - Don't hesitate to try it. We often don't really know until we try, and with digital, the price of film is cheap.

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A poor photographer blames his tools.
 

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