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100-400 remake
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Mike_13
Senior Member
I believe if you search CR, it will tell you 2009... and 2008...
There have been rumors of a new version for years!!!
Most want to do away with the push-pull design, some want faster design, and some want a newer IS
I believe it will be replaced, someday....
There have been rumors of a new version for years!!!
Most want to do away with the push-pull design, some want faster design, and some want a newer IS
I believe it will be replaced, someday....
ed rader
Veteran Member
it's a very effective design. the only thing i'd like to see changed is the IS unit and perhaps improved optics but i'm perfectly happy with the lens as it is now.
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dennis tennis
Senior Member
Makes it faster to zoom.
Don't mind the dust.
Need to fix the tensioning ring though. The tension changes and you have to re-tension often.
Better IS, maybe faster AF, better optics but you would expect these three to occur whenever there is an upgrade.
Don't mind the dust.
Need to fix the tensioning ring though. The tension changes and you have to re-tension often.
Better IS, maybe faster AF, better optics but you would expect these three to occur whenever there is an upgrade.
lespurgeon
Senior Member
Yeah, all that and 50% more expensive.
mayfair_magpie
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no, keep it a push pull, and change other lenses to the push pull design, it's a more natural zooming action
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BobHo
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What is "natural" very often depends on what you're used to. When I owned MF canons, I owned both push-pull and 2-touch zooms and preferred the push-pull. With AF, the advantage of the push-pull operation, being able to both zoom and focus with different actions of the same hand, is irrelevant. Two-touch is much better with AF systems. Specifically, my 2-touch Sigma EX is much easier to use than my 100-400.
Besides, my 100-400 has always stuck a little when I first started a zoom action, even after Canon "repaired" it.
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Besides, my 100-400 has always stuck a little when I first started a zoom action, even after Canon "repaired" it.
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GoldenSpark
Senior Member
...easily change from push-pull to rotary (one-touch) and keep the zoom ratio at 4:1 - the range means the length of travel of the front group is too much to make a rotary action work. The cam either becomes too stiff, or it has to rotate too far to work successfully.
Canon claim this is why they made the zoom push-pull in the first place.
Adding the latest 4-stop IS is certainly an easy upgrade to make.
Canon claim this is why they made the zoom push-pull in the first place.
Adding the latest 4-stop IS is certainly an easy upgrade to make.
biochemiker
Leading Member
I love the push pull design. It is very fast and intuitive. I find that it really helps to acquire a bird in flight at 100mm and zoom to 400. I don't think I want to see Canon make any changes to the overall design but minor improvements in IS and optics would be fine.
Daniel Clune
Senior Member
My sigma 50-500 is rotary and quite smooth in action.
If canon does remake the lens and just updates the IS, i bet going by recent lenses from canon the price will go to 2 grand, now how many want an update.
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If canon does remake the lens and just updates the IS, i bet going by recent lenses from canon the price will go to 2 grand, now how many want an update.
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TheVoIP
Leading Member
If they do make one upgraded version... please improve the IS...
And if possible... extend it into 500mm...
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And if possible... extend it into 500mm...
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100-500mm f/4-5.6L IS... now that's a lens!!! ;-)
Montana500
Veteran Member
Not much sense in retaining the 100 on the wide end IMHO. Most people use this lens at longer focal lengths.
I'd be very interested in a 200-500.
I'd be very interested in a 200-500.
PhillipA
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Love the Push-Pull - Love the 100-400 
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TheVoIP
Leading Member
Please make the new lens sharp. And not much more expensive than Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS USM L.
if the filter thread is bigger than 77mm, please make the outer glass scratch resistence like other Canon super tele lenses so I no need to get protection filter because I found protection filter do degrade my 100-400, especially at 400mm.
I believe in good cameras + good subjects + good moments + good mood = good pictures
if the filter thread is bigger than 77mm, please make the outer glass scratch resistence like other Canon super tele lenses so I no need to get protection filter because I found protection filter do degrade my 100-400, especially at 400mm.
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Steve Balcombe
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That certainly isn't true in general, there are countless examples to disprove it. However it might be true for that particular optical formula - in which case my answer would be to reduce the zoom range. 200-400 with the same image quality as Nikon's but in a smaller, lighter, more affordable f/4-5.6 would be perfect for me.
Oh, and I want rear focusing with a built in hood which slides forward to reveal the zoom ring. Come on Canon, shake a leg.
Daniel Clune
Senior Member
If canon makes a 200-500 and going by recent canon lenses released the price is going to go way up. If they make the 200-500 some are asking for my bet would be 3 grand. and just a simple IS upgrade on the current 100-400 my bet would be 2 grand. So do you really want an upgrade? Just curious if the demand would be all that great when the price will be alot more.
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GoldenSpark
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The 50-500 suffers the problem that I alluded to - to make a quality 4x tele zoom where the wide open performance is even across the range is difficult without significant extension, which in turn gives mechanical difficulties with a one-touch design.
The reviews in slrgear for each lens show this quite well.
TDP also shows the same;
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=374&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=1&LensComp=113&CameraComp=9&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=4&APIComp=0
As Steve Balcombe said, perhaps Canon's formula for the 100-400 dictates a long front group extension, but they chose that because they were not prepared to compromise so much on the optical performance when they designed it?
(you pay the price of course).
The reviews in slrgear for each lens show this quite well.
TDP also shows the same;
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=374&Camera=9&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=1&LensComp=113&CameraComp=9&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=4&APIComp=0
As Steve Balcombe said, perhaps Canon's formula for the 100-400 dictates a long front group extension, but they chose that because they were not prepared to compromise so much on the optical performance when they designed it?
(you pay the price of course).
dennis tennis
Senior Member
I'd go for it but it will be BIG and I think that it would be more than 3K
500 at 5.6 is one stop less than the HUGE 500 f4. Add the complexity and size increase because it is a zoom and you will have a huge lens. Just compare the size of the 70-200 f2.8 with the 200 2.8 prime.
500 at 5.6 is one stop less than the HUGE 500 f4. Add the complexity and size increase because it is a zoom and you will have a huge lens. Just compare the size of the 70-200 f2.8 with the 200 2.8 prime.
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