New to DSLRs; D90 with one lens or D40/D5000 with a few lenses?

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Hi All,

I'm rather new to digital photography. I've been doing youth sports shoots for a while now but it's mostly just posing and snapping. Now I'm looking to branch out and learn on my own.

That being said, I'm kinda stumped on what camera I should go with as a beginner.

I was looking at getting a used D90 with one inexpensive lens
or
A new D5000 with a couple inexpensive lenses/accessories
or
A new D40 with a few nice lenses and accessories

So as a beginner I'm not sure which would be the most beneficial to help me along learning process.

Any suggestions?
 
Your post is a little vague, you state that you have been doing sports shoots for a while and you also state that you are new to digital photography. So have you been doing your sports shoots using a film camera, and was the camera a SLR? Also just what do you have in mind when you say you want to branch out?

If branching out means shooting from the sidelines and capturing live-action sports shoots then inexpensive lenses aren’t in your future. The type of sports also has a big influence on the lens you will need. For indoor sports like basketball, the lighting is seldom conducive for photography so you need a very fast lens, and fast lenses cost money. A popular lens is the 70-200mm f/2.8 and that lens sells new for right around $2400, and not a whole heck of a lot cheaper used. For outdoor sports like football, baseball, and soccer, during the day light may not be a problem but distance can be a problem and a telephoto lens is almost essential. Just look at the lenses the professionals are using next time you watch a game, all those great big white lenses are Canon lenses, Nikon lenses are harder to spot because they are black, and some of those are approaching $10,000. Many amateurs find that the 70-300mm VR lens works for them for daytime outdoor sports and that lens costs right around $580. The 70-300mm VR might work for night games at a stadium that has really good banks of lights, but being f/5.6 at 300mm it isn’t very fast and not well suited for poor lighting conditions. Flash is generally not very effective at the distances you will be shooting and generally isn’t allowed at indoor sports.

The D90 has some very nice features for sports, such as a faster frames per second (fps) rate, which can be very beneficial shooting sports. The dedicated controls mean that you can change camera settings quickly when you need to. There is only about a $130 difference between a new D90 and a new D5000 and the ability to use both AF-s and AF lenses on the D90 might prove to be a big factor for someone looking to buy used lenses. There are some great used AF only lenses that will auto focus on the D90 but not on the D5000. The 18-55mm “kit” lens on the D5000 is not going to be all that useful as a sports lens; the 18-105mm “kit” lens probably won’t be either but in day-to-day shooting the 18-105 gets the nod. I would also say that if you are really serious about learning digital photography the D90 has more potential as your skill-level grows.
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While amateurs change the camera’s settings; many Pro’s prefer to change the light.

Brooks
http://bmiddleton.smugmug.com/
 
When I said that I have been shooting sports, it's not action shots, just posed team photos. For the most part I've been using F100s, and occationally a D200 or D300 in outdoor settings.

Since I am just the assistant photographer I never adjust anything on the camera myself, I'm told what settings to adjust to and go from there. So in other words, I have handled SLRs and DSLRs but I know next to nothing about them and am starting from square one.

What I am looking to learn is how to make adjustments myself so I can be more independent on shoots as well as doing some amateur work on the side.

Just trying to figure out if I should break the bank on a body and buy lenses as I can, or save on the body and get some nicer lenses to learn with. At this point I think I've ruled out the D5000 (since the price is so close to the D90), but am considering a D40/D60/D80/D90.

Sorry if I was being unclear before. I really appreciate any and all help.
 
You might want to think about increasing your knowledge about such things as exposure. There is a very good book on exposure that many feel is literally a “must read”, and that is Bryan Peterson’s “Understanding Exposure, Revised Edition”. That book can be purchased for less than $20 on any number of Web sites. Exposure just may be the foundation of photography; photography is all about light, and exposure is how we control that light. The settings you mention are almost certainly in the realm of exposure settings.

I don’t know what your relationship with your photographer is like, but as their assistant photographer have you spoken with them? I would think they might be a valuable resource that you should try and take advantage of. If your photographer is using a D300 then the D90 is very closely related and most of the settings on a D300 could be transferred directly to the D90.

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While amateurs change the camera’s settings; many Pro’s prefer to change the light.

Brooks
http://bmiddleton.smugmug.com/
 
I agree with other posters that you really need to get a handle on exposure and how the cameras actually work. Understaning exposure is akin to balance on a bicycle, it must be mastered before you can ride. Not hard to learn and I also recommend the book.

As for cameras, if you are shooting sports primarily then you need a good focus system and a responsive camera. D40/60 will work OK but the D90 or D300 will be more responsive and capable, and have better low light performance.

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Nikon D90, 16-85VRII, 50 f1.8
Canon A590IS
 
Thanks again for the help guys, I ended up going with a D80 that I got for a great price. Also found a copy of the book for next to nothing. Can't wait to get started!
 
How about a used D90? The diff between the D90 new and a new D5000 is not much so what kind of lenses with you be getting? If you get a used D40 then there is substantial diff there but again what kind of lenses will you get?

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RomeoD

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I was looking at used D90s but the prices were so close to new that it seemed silly to get a used one. So for budget reasons I ended up going with a used D80 with some extra goodies for decent price.
 

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