Why do I always see the joint

Michael Edward Rudge

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Hi Michael,

Nice pano !! In my own experience - locking the exposure during the pano is the best way to ensure that all images receive exactly the same exposure - and thus have the ability to blend seamlessly. I'd like a pano head - but that's something that will have to wait !!

I couldn't see any joins by the way !!

Regards,

Zorpie
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Not only lock the exposure, but also do not use auto white balance.
..and if you do buy a CPL, don't use it for panoramas ;-)

(it exaggerates the sky colour variation that you get from shooting in different directions relative to the sun, and this is hard to fix later)

RP
 
First use manual for all camera settings including white balance and focus. When taking the images for a panorama change nothing between images and take the images as quickly as possible to keep lighting as close as possible. Second get better stitching software Canon Photostitch is not all that good. Better stitching software can create layered Photoshop PSD files where the stitchesd seams are blended by using layer mask. Often poor seams can be improved by tweaking these layer mask and color blending often can be improved by using one of the stitching software blending options or with Photoshop's Auto blend layers option.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=7926696
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JJMack
 
The previous link is very old. Photoshop PhotoMerge is CS3 and CS4 is much improved and there is a new kid on the block the has support for Fisheye lenses and can automatically stitch images very well including 360 Spherical panoramas. That program name is AutoPano Pro cost about $150 USD.....
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the pano is slightly overexposed. the sky is blowing out. no, i do not see any breaks or lines between sections. for a howto on panos see below especially the part on setting the exposure. you can use awb is the scene is in the same lighting. or use a preset wb. but whatever is chosen you must leave it for all pano sections.

To do panoramas-

for panoramas- -use tripod. you must keep it level with the horizon. if your tripod does not have a level builtin then buy one that slides into your flash hotshoe. again make a max effort to get the camera level.

-for exposure. set the exposure by pressing halfway and noting the fstop and shutter speed. you are trying to find the brightest part of you panorama scene to be. once you have found the brightest check the fstop and shutter speed. put camera into manual metering mode and use those settings. do not change them for any part of the panorama.

-lens selection. i shoot mine with a 20mm. note: SHOOT THE LENS VERTICALLY. this is the only way to get some vertical scene, otherwise the panorama will be shaped like a hotdog. Note- if the panorama is a vertical panorama then you shoot landscape. this is why i went to a 20mm. in vertical you are cutting your angle of view way down. my tripod has degrees engraved in the mount, i was shooting at only a 15 degree spread and in looking at the shots before stitching there wasn't that much overlap. i later shot panoramas with 35mm 50mm 70mm; the hot dog effect was more pronounced. the panorama itself did work. With higher mm lens you would have to go to double rows.

-determine in advance the center point of the scene and try to go X number of shots on each side of it. for me with my setup a 120 degree scene is 7 shots; the center and 3 on each side. if i go with a 35mm lens then a 120degree scene will take 13 shots. no matter what lens you use realize that you are adding only 33% new scene with every shot, the rest is overlap for the right and left adjoining shots. the only exceptions are the end shots in the whole scene. it is possible to add another row above and/or below the first one. this would help the vertical look especially if you are using a 50mm or longer. for multiple rows are the same as 1 row, but you know have to overlap on the vertical as well as the horizontal. you must make sure that there are no gaps.
  • i stick my hand in front of the lens and shoot, then shoot the panorama, the 7 shots, then put hand in front of lens and shoot. later i know that everything between hands is the panorama.
-i have used cs2 or the panorama factory software to make the panorama. for either couldn't be simpler simply select the shots and it does the work. this is where using a level pays off. the software is leveling the scene to make the long rectangle, but if the scene was not as level as possible in the first place the vertical becomes less and less(you end up with hotdog shape). so having the tripod and camera level is very important. also when mount and shooting vertically make sure the camera really is vertical, carefully check by looking threw the viewfinder. some tripod vertical adjustments actually go past true vertical, mine does even though it says 90 degrees.
-be sure to use a cable release or the selftimer.

-on focusing- what i do is to simply preset the 20mm lems at infinity, because of depth of field everything from 5.64ft to infinity is in focus at f11.0 distance 200ft. you can also use a hyperfocal focus setup. but thanks to the DOF table, just setting the lens at infinity is simpler. -i left WB alone, that is set at AWB; or you can use a preset setting like sunny or cloudy, but once set do not change it till panorama shots are done.

-online depth of field calculator available here- http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

-parallax error. It is usually not so much a problem outdoor shooting. This is because the distances are greater than inside. In any event if you shoot panoramas outside and at short distances OR any inside any building, you should be thinking of getting a panorama tripod head. This is to eliminate parallax error. I have the panosaurus pano head, cheap durable, and it works.

-for panoramas, the software i use is either panorama factory orPTGui or cs2. the one that works best for me is PTGui. i have since gotton PTGuiPRO, expensive but worth it. has many features and abilities that the other software does not have, including the ability to process 360 and 720degree spherical panoramas, plus many projection types and it does raw and hdr panos.

-on post shooting work. If jpeg DO NOT PP. just use as is. After the pano is made then pp as desired. If raw, does your panorama software do raws? Not all do. If yes raw batch convert only. Do not adjust any 1 shot. All shots must be the same before the pano is made, then do any pp you wish but on the whole pano.

If any pp work is done to the pano before stitching then there will be a difference in the sections, and you could(probably?) get vertical bands where the sections join.
Any questions, please ask. gary
 
Sorry...I mean selecting 100% on the posted drawing (as opposed to "Zoom Out"). Certainly not the true 100%, but if Michael sees it at this size, I thought I should too.

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I see the boundaries. I used to have the same problem.

The advice about exposure and WB settings above will cure most of it. But if you use a lens with less than ideal vignetting characteristics, this can happen, too.

Newer software cured the problem for me. Not sure how recent you need to go to get the superior blending, but this image deserves another shot.

Congrats,
Jeff
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If you do not want to spend anything the best thing would;d be to get Panorama tools and Hugins front end for Panorama tools. All FREE.
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Thank you for looking Zorpie ,I must be over critical, or my monitor shows them up more , I must admit though I do have to look close
Cheers
Michael North Wales
Michael,
Your Pano looks great. Nice scene. Good job!
(You really are looking too close because I can't see the joint, either.)

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Jim

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