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Yes, unfortunately, there's a world of difference between being aware of and having plans to deal with a potential terrorist threat, and those plans being 100% effective.
RW
Dear James with S30,
It was a joke - as my subjectfield said. And a joke intended as a comment on some of our worlds different cultures, rather different viewpoints on a lot of things. It hits me to, because I am from Norway, e.g. part of western Europe.
Yours,
Anders Holt.
http://www.holt.no/digi/
http://www.photosig.com/
It was a joke - as my subjectfield said. And a joke intended as a comment on some of our worlds different cultures, rather different viewpoints on a lot of things. It hits me to, because I am from Norway, e.g. part of western Europe.
Yours,
Anders Holt.
--The survey was a huge failure...
Yours,
- In Africa they didn't know what "food" meant.
- In Eastern Europe they didn't know what "honest" meant.
- In Western Europe they didn't know what "shortage" meant.
- In China they didn't know what "opinion" meant.
- In the Middle East they didn't know what "solution" meant.
- In South America they didn't know what "please" meant.
- And in the USA they didn't know what "the rest of the world" meant.
Anders Holt
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3362951
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Kindly,
Jennifer
http://www.holt.no/digi/
http://www.photosig.com/
http://www.holt.no/digi/
http://www.photosig.com/
warren prasek
Senior Member
Juan, just because someone calls you "intolerant" doesn't actually mean you are. Different people have different points of view, and it can be healthy to express them in an open, honest, and (hopefully) non-inflammatory manner.
different people get upset over different things, and words can be misinterpreted, and... i'm rambling. suffice to say this is a forum about CANON DIGITAL CAMERAS and IMHO the original post was waaaay off-topic.
but whatever i, or anyone else says, this thread is bound to degenerate into a vicious, mean-spritied and deeply polarised political "debate".
i think i might bow out at this point... for those who continue, have fun!
different people get upset over different things, and words can be misinterpreted, and... i'm rambling. suffice to say this is a forum about CANON DIGITAL CAMERAS and IMHO the original post was waaaay off-topic.
but whatever i, or anyone else says, this thread is bound to degenerate into a vicious, mean-spritied and deeply polarised political "debate".
i think i might bow out at this point... for those who continue, have fun!
Freedom of Speech? Freedom of Speech is alive and well but people like you who burn the flag by choice is a punch in the face to the many servicemembers like me currently serving our great nation overseas (and at home). I suggest if you don't have respect for the people that are fighting for your freedom and for what they stand for and are protecting, then you move to a different country (I would even buy you a one way ticket. -- Ron
Wrong. Being ignorant is one thing; shouting it on the Internet is quite another.
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Ruffian
Senior Member
Of buying a New York poster from IKEA. Ya know, they still have the originals, those with the Twin Towers standing...
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A E Hansen
Forum Enthusiast
Nope....
When the national flag is displayed flat, either horizontally or vertically, on a wall or in a window, the union (blue field) should be at the top and to the observer's left when facing the flag.
When displayed from a staff projecting from a windowsill, balcony, or the front of a building, the union (blue field) should be at the staff's peak (unless the flag is at half-staff).
The U.S. Flag Code, adopted in 1923 and amended by Public Law 94-344 in 1976, states "It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset ... However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed 24 hours a day if properly illuminated during the darkness hours.
When displayed on a stage or platform, the national flag should be to the speaker's right. Any other flag is on the speaker's left.
When suspended, the flag should be vertical with the union to the north over an east-west street and to the east over a north-south street. The flag should be hoisted out union (blue field) first.
Flag decals and stickers may be correctly displayed on the inside of motor vehicle side windows.
For more info:
http://www.bsa.scouting.org/excomm/flag/
-- A E Hansen
Jennifer48211
Leading Member
It's a busy world and if only one person saw my post and flew their flag I would be happy. Thanks for the post and email.
Kindly,
Jennifer
JZ
Kindly,
Jennifer
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Robert Beacon
Leading Member
Did you stop and think that many people will find this disturbing and offensive, or did you not care, or worse did decide to stir things up?
Kindly,
Jennifer
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Raist3d
Guest
That a lot of people, and I mean A LOT of people in the US DO NOT care at all about what goes in the world. Horrible, very HORRIBLE things happen in other parts of the world, yet all of a sudden we get a terrorist attack and everybody is all "let's unite and stuff." Why we were not that united before? Why it took this attack to give pause to everyone instead of being more conscious about it?
So I am not saying that what happened is a happybirthday moment to us, but I can certainly understand a lot of other people in other countries thinking "why should I care, you guys don't give a sh*t about what happens to us.."
And I have to say - yes, I can understand that thinking because there's a degree of true in it.
A good example to me is our news. Usually when they talk about international news is more like "international places where the US has been."
Anyway, hope that explains what I mean.
- Raist
James Knowles
Well-known member
Somebody said of this joke that it "hit the nail on the head." And indeed it truly does.
Their is a mythos, popular in Europe, of the ignorant American. It goes that Americans do not understand peoples with different languages and cultures. Yet, America has in it more languages and cultures than all European nations combined.
This joke does not, in point, demonstrate any ignorance by any American.
What is does demonstrate is arrogance. Arrogance that the poster's national culture is superior. That only the poster's culture "knows about the world."
This thread was is a post from an American to other Americans to honor our dead, and yours, on this day.
To take this opportunity to post this smug joke is nothing more than rude. Do mothers in Europe not teach their children basic human manners?
Or are they so busy teaching you arrogance that their is simply no time left to learn anything else?
Their is a mythos, popular in Europe, of the ignorant American. It goes that Americans do not understand peoples with different languages and cultures. Yet, America has in it more languages and cultures than all European nations combined.
This joke does not, in point, demonstrate any ignorance by any American.
What is does demonstrate is arrogance. Arrogance that the poster's national culture is superior. That only the poster's culture "knows about the world."
This thread was is a post from an American to other Americans to honor our dead, and yours, on this day.
To take this opportunity to post this smug joke is nothing more than rude. Do mothers in Europe not teach their children basic human manners?
Or are they so busy teaching you arrogance that their is simply no time left to learn anything else?
The survey was a huge failure...
Yours,
- In Africa they didn't know what "food" meant.
- In Eastern Europe they didn't know what "honest" meant.
- In Western Europe they didn't know what "shortage" meant.
- In China they didn't know what "opinion" meant.
- In the Middle East they didn't know what "solution" meant.
- In South America they didn't know what "please" meant.
- And in the USA they didn't know what "the rest of the world" meant.
Anders Holt
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3362951
--
Kindly,
Jennifer
http://www.holt.no/digi/
http://www.photosig.com/
Kevin Esler
Member
Irrelevant to a photography forum, certainly.
Disturbing and offensive only to the hyper-sensitive, for whom I guess many other fairly harmless things would also be disturbung.
Disturbing and offensive only to the hyper-sensitive, for whom I guess many other fairly harmless things would also be disturbung.
James Knowles
Well-known member
If an image of another nation's flag makes you feel offended then photography (which deals with images of lots of things) is definately the wrong hobby for you. I would hate to see you offended every time you see an image of a flag, or a building, or a puppy.
Perhaps stamp collecting would be the better choice?
Damn. Those have images on them too.
Coin collecting, err, no that won't work. Let me think, let me think...
Toothpicks. Yes. There are really quite a few different types of tootpicks from all over the world. You should collect those.
Perhaps stamp collecting would be the better choice?
Damn. Those have images on them too.
Coin collecting, err, no that won't work. Let me think, let me think...
Toothpicks. Yes. There are really quite a few different types of tootpicks from all over the world. You should collect those.
Did you stop and think that many people will find this disturbing
Kindly,
Jennifer
and offensive, or did you not care, or worse did decide to stir
things up?
rufus0101
Active member
Burning the flag can be a means of getting attention to the fact that you feel what the flag stands for is being violated by the gorernment. It is an acceptable form of demonstration, at least in the US.
I can't imagine the scenario that I myself would burn a flag, but I don't hold people in contempt for burning a flag; I may hold them in contempt if I disagree with them... especially if they don't support the fact that the US is in a state of war, and the rules are diferent when fighting for survival.
All in my humble opinion.
I can't imagine the scenario that I myself would burn a flag, but I don't hold people in contempt for burning a flag; I may hold them in contempt if I disagree with them... especially if they don't support the fact that the US is in a state of war, and the rules are diferent when fighting for survival.
All in my humble opinion.
I understand why people burn the flag. In my opinion, they are going to the extrme to prove a point. But as a U.S. servicemember I feel that those that go to that extreme should be kicked out of the country and sent somewhere else where maybe they don't have the freedom to do as they please. Then maybe they will learn to appreciate the flag and what it stands for. I realize it is their right to do so but it is also what our country stands for and what the U.S. military fights to protect all over the world. Terrorists enjoy burning our flag also. --- Ron
James Knowles
Well-known member
A lot of people in all nations do not care about what happens outside their nation. True. Thank God for the growth of the American initiated ARPA/internet. It will/does help.
An American posts a message for other Americans. Many don't care. Ok. Fine. I'm still not seeing the good points in attacking the post that you refer to.
I hate lemons so instead I eat oranges. Try one of the other 327,382 news sources. Have you read the "enlightened" foreign news recently? Geez. All news, worldwide, is pretty bad.
Nope. I still don't see the good points in attacking somebody for wanting to honor their dead that you referred to.
But then I never will. So I'm a lost cause.
James Knowles
Well-known member
Your aunt dies in a car crash. You don't attend her funeral and honor her memory because 4,000,000 people die of starvation.
Your right about putting things in perspective.
isn't the law, if a welshman crosses the border at night, you can shoot him with a longbow?
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