LX3 timelapse video

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Hi,

I wanted to share a timelapse video I made with shooting stills with the LX3. It was done on a whim and lacks a bit on the design and execution. As mentioned in the description I shot 2070 shots that night with a single battery. I doubt it had much life in it after that, but it didn't die. Of course the lcd didn't eat battery in a normal relationship with actual shot count. But anyway, please have a look:
http://vimeo.com/7125417
I'll upload a 1080p version as well.
 
Wonderful! - despite your protestations of not being prepared. Can you share any details of how you did the actual pix (tripod), measured zoom, etc> ) and how you assembled the video (software, output considerations) etc. Great job and very enjoyable to watch.

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Jim
 
Great way to make a beautiful video.

There are several applications for making stop-motion movies. If you are on a Macintosh computer you can load the photos into iPhoto and then import them to an iMovie project - at least this works in iMove HD.
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Jan Erik

Freely after John Lennon:
'Life is what happens around you while you´re busy making photos'
 
Beautiful. I'm very impressed.

I noticed a bit of a zoom and a pull out on a couple of scenes. What editing software did you use?

Any other specifics would be greatly appreciated.
 
I thought it was good,and enjoyed it

Curious as to how it was all done

ANAYV
 
Excellent, very well done... I really enjoyed it, and envious of your patience and creativity.

Thanks for sharing.

Phil
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Matix - These Photographers are Crazy!!
 
Wow, thanks for your kind comments! I didn't want to sound arrogant with the "something I whipped together" -kind of description. I'm am quite happy with what came out, but I'm kicking myself a bit with what could have been. :) I'm glad to share info (I'll try to be specific, since there's interest) and answer any questions.

Idea

The idea came basically when I realized, having watched some timelapse videos, that often very slow movement is sped up, and I wanted to try it with some fast action to start with. The "unlimited burst" mode shoots a bit more than one frame per second (at least with my card and settings). I wanted to speed the video up directly, but 24x time acceleration was just ridiculous and uncomprehensible. So I changed the approach a bit seeing the first results at home. I've tried some timelapse stuff with videos and the intervalometer mode on my Canon S2 compact with shots one minute apart (why don't all cameras have this in the software?). Many of the timelapse videos I've seen also have movement made with motorized units rotating or moving on rails (zoom is very rarely controlled like this) etc., dollys. I was thinking of mimicing this with moving a cropping rectangle over the image, but didn't know it would work that well on a "moving" image.

Shooting

The shooting was very much like "Honey, I got to try shooting this location. It'll take a few minutes, go warm your hands in the cafeteria in the meantime." So no second takes or very long sequences. :) I set the camera to 6M resolution and low-quality jpeg for the images. I varied aspect ratio depending what I wanted in the image, knowing I'd have plenty of pixel space for cropping. In 16:9 mode it meant I had 3328x1872 source resolution to start with. For the same reason I preferred shooting quite wide angle for most of the time. I used manual exposure to make sure the the images don't vary unexpectedly in brightness, and used the on-screen meter to underexpose them up to one stop (due to likely highlight clipping). I did shoot some highspeed targets with longer exposures, but in the end I had to drop them, since they usually just didn't work being difficult to make up anything. The used shots are 1/30 to 1/8s in exposure time. I tried to keep ISO down (200 or under) to avoid noise. I also shot some videos I wanted to mix in, but the image quality just wasn't on par. I also wanted to do my "normal" shooting, and I shot a 100 or so shots of stuff in the park and my girlfriend. I also used flash quite a lot, so I was just sure the battery wouldn't last for the sequences. That's one reason I didn't want to stress too much about the shots, I thought I wouldn't have enough of them for anything. In the end I was just amazed at the battery performance. It's even now showing 2 bars when powered on, but will drop to one after a couple of shots. I was really impressed anyhow.

Like I said, I had no tripod and no shutter remote control. This means I laid the camera on some handrail, thrash bin, held it against a tree, whatever was there and squeezed the shutter until I had enough frames. Often I didn't have enough, I didn't really know how many I need, but I went for around 50 to 100 at least for any sequence. Once I accidentally let go, then realized it and started again, resulting in a completely unbearable shake in the middle. A few times I tried to follow a subject, but that just resulted in too jerky movement and too much motion blur, and is really difficult to try to peek at the screen in an already awkward position. And it was cold that night, close to zero and my hands were absolutely freezing at times. (Even more credit to the battery performance) We had three hours in the park, so that's not a very long timeframe.
 
Sound

I have licensed Vegas so I can access a set of generic themed backround tracks from them. I chose one with no clear beat, basically just something really subtle, but not too cheesy. They have some really nice tracks 15, 30, 60, or 180 seconds in length. For the amusement parks ambient sounds I actually bought a sound from AudioSparx (first time ever doing that). I mixed the sounds together to come up with a sound roughly the length of the video. This is the area in which I have the least experience in, and when I had the three-minute audio, I needed to edit the video to be roughly the same length. I ended up dropping a couple scenes and trimming some. Not the way one would ideally do this, and definitely an area of improvement.

Compression

I used VirtualDub ( http://www.virtualdub.org/ ) for compression since it can read the AviSynth files and just about any sound files (I could have done the audio dubbing in AviSynth as well). I went for quality and used .H264 compression with a high bit rate for the video (~7000kbps for 720p and ~10000kbps for 1080p) and MP3 (192kbps) for audio. I rendered 720p and 1080p versions separately since Vimeo recommends uploading 720p and they will otherwise convert it automatically. In this case it meant changing the resolution in the script in two variables and reloading the file, so definitely an easy step. The compression took about 20 minutes.

The 1080p version is available for download now as well at http://vapina.net/dir/camera/misc/Lintsi_1080p.avi

That came out really longer than I thought I'd write for now. It didn't really take very long to actually do the timelapse video, compared to normal video production. Also no image PP was done. I'd encourage anyone to try this, despite the exhausting description.
 
Even left one part out...
Images -> video

I'm working on a Windows computer. I divided the individual sequences (some with hundreds of images) to separate folders to somehow manage them. I've been using AviSynth ( http://avisynth.org ) for a lot of batch processing -like stuff, and am quite familiar with it. It's basically scripting and it's easy to produce the sequences with it and you can review your changes instantly (quite choppy with the resolution and effects in this case, but anyway). For any artistic stuff almost any GUI driven product would be superior, but for some stuff it's really convenient. I have Sony Vegas and was thinking of animating the crops with it and ordering and trimming the sequences etc., but I couldn't quite figure out how to deal with the source format. Vegas cannot read the AviSynth output directly, so I was facing rendering 3328x1872 temp videos, which would take a lot of time and disk and would probably be pain to edit. And if I wanted to make any change for the source frame rate, I'd have to render it again. Eventually I decided to do it all in avisynth. (If anyone knows some other good approach to this I'm all ears.)

Through trial and error I settled for about 8x time acceleration and 24 fps for the output (and doing the "dolly effect" in latter to be smooth enough). The dolly effect basically meant cropping a rectangle in the image, animating the coordinates frame to frame, then resizing to final resolution. The secuences were then just crossfaded together.
 
Wow. That's a lot more detail than I expected. Thanks very much for spending the time to do that. Very useful.

I'm itching to try this out. Just have to wait for my LX3 to get here!

Again, great job. It's my favourite LX3 movie on Vimeo so far.
 
That's interesting stuff.

I enjoyed the video!

I have Vegas 6. I used to do a lot of still picture videos. I am just starting to learn video shooting and editing

Will this help? Go to; options-preferences-editing- new still image length

After your stills are edited and adjusted for length; each still can be shortened or lengthened. render as, whatever. Vegas will chew through this and output a video file.

I am not sure if the above is what you were asking. If this helps, fine.

Roger
 
Hi neekoh,

love that video, great job.

Out of pure coincidence and curiosity I too had the idea yesterday to try the continous shooting mode of the LX3 at a party to make a time lapse movie. Actually I was more interested in testing the performance of the camera in that mode since I usually don't shoot JPEG alone and in RAW it'll stop after 3 stops because the buffer is full, so I didn't put that much care into the settings. That having said I was quite impressed that the camera managed to produce a perfect stream of 1.6 pictures/s at 1/25s exposure in JPEG fine at full 4/3 resolution.

Now that you mentioned your shot lag I decided to try how fast it would go. When shooting in lower quality JPEG 6 MP it'd do 1.6 shots/s at 1/8s and 2 shots/s at 1/25s which is really impressive.

Regarding the conversion and the Tip with iMovie HD/iPhoto: Yeah, that'd work. But the newer iMove can actually directly import pictures which is what I tried. Problem is that it can only put a picture every 6 frames which might be enough for some cases but in my party trial it looks stupid. Another problem is the export. Even though it's only 4 fps, H.264 two pass rendering at 4Mbps with static background and little action there're some really noticeable compression artefacts in the resulting movie. Also I would have loved to get some quick swipe effect mixed in to get some flip-book like effect but that is also only available for longer durations. On the plus side it is very easy to get some decent white-balance, cropping and post-processing applied to all images at once.

I'll prolly play around a bit more with that 250MB of single shot footage and find some good tools to apply and then shoot a couple more videos. I actually quite enjoyed the shooting. :-D

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Servus, Daniel
 
There must be something in the air regarding time lapse experimenting. I just purchased a nice car mount and drove around Los Angeles here with the continuous mode on for more than 30 minutes, twice today. I think from these two sessions I had over 6700 pictures on a single charge!

Does any one know what the average actuation life span of the LX3 is?

btw - Great looking work to the OP!
 
Regarding the conversion and the Tip with iMovie HD/iPhoto: Yeah, that'd work. But the newer iMove can actually directly import pictures which is what I tried. Problem is that it can only put a picture every 6 frames which might be enough for some cases but in my party trial it looks stupid. Another problem is the export. Even though it's only 4 fps, H.264 two pass rendering at 4Mbps with static background and little action there're some really noticeable compression artefacts in the resulting movie. Also I would have loved to get some quick swipe effect mixed in to get some flip-book like effect but that is also only available for longer durations. On the plus side it is very easy to get some decent white-balance, cropping and post-processing applied to all images at once.
Quicktime Pro 7.x does a great job of image sequencing. Then you can edit inside of iMovie, FCP, etc.
 
@KinniKinnik:
I have Vegas 6. I used to do a lot of still picture videos. I am just starting to learn video shooting and editing Will this help?
Thanks for the tips, I must have a closer look. Might make things a lot easier.

@degger:
Now that you mentioned your shot lag I decided to try how fast it would go. When shooting in lower quality JPEG 6 MP it'd do 1.6 shots/s at 1/8s and 2 shots/s at 1/25s which is really impressive.
Now that you mention it, I measured 1.7 shots/s. I was sure it was slower. :)

@skiphunt13:
Liked!

@turnstile:

6700? Six thousand? :D That's crazy! If you do many sessions like that, your question about the life span is totally valid. Something I'd never pay attention to, at least with a new camera.

Thanks all, do share your stuff!
 
Quicktime Pro 7.x does a great job of image sequencing. Then you can edit inside of iMovie, FCP, etc.
Interesting. That never occured to me, I'll try that. Thanks.

Another problem I have which already seems to be a QuickTime problem. The H.264 quality is really poor. Any idea how to fix that? I don't have FCP so I could only use some other (possibly free) software, so if you have any idea about a possible workflow...

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Servus, Daniel
 

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