Having big problem with S820

GRBiker · Sep 3, 2002

turned out to be a blocked magenta passage between the magenta ink seat/receptacle and the nozzle. Now my problem is further componded because now I get the dreaded 7 yellow flashes disease. To finally clear the passage way I had to remove the two screws on each side of the nozzles and carefully pull them back. Injected a bit of cleaner into the magenta passage and carefully inserted a empty refill bottle's needle to insure blockage was removed. It was as a bit accumulated magent ink began to flow. Re-secured nozzles, cleaned contacts and re-inserted head into printer. boom. 7 stupid yellow flashes. why? The print head is NOT defective. removed and re-examined. Can't see a damn thing wrong with it. Traces in ribbon connection were not disturbed. ideas?

chingon said:
acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

chingon · Sep 3, 2002

Someone posted a way to reset the waste tank message, maybe it works for all messages. Not sure just guessing.

I saved this. It's up to you if you want to try it. It was posted by someone else, sorry I don't remember who.

This is what is listed for the 8200. Use at your own risk.

1: Power off printer
2: Hold Resume button then press and hold POWER, the beeper will sound once.
3: Hold POWER and release RESUME
4: Press RESUME twice then release both POWER and RESUME buttons

5: When the indicator lights steady, press RESUME three(3) times. The indicator should be ORANGE.

6: Press Power to set data

eGRBiker said:
chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

chingon · Sep 3, 2002

I forgot to add that they said it worked for the 9000.

chingon said:
I saved this. It's up to you if you want to try it. It was posted
by someone else, sorry I don't remember who.

This is what is listed for the 8200. Use at your own risk.

1: Power off printer
2: Hold Resume button then press and hold POWER, the beeper will
sound once.
3: Hold POWER and release RESUME
4: Press RESUME twice then release both POWER and RESUME buttons

5: When the indicator lights steady, press RESUME three(3) times.
The indicator should be ORANGE.

6: Press Power to set data

eGRBiker said:

chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

chingon · Sep 3, 2002

I forgot to add that they said it worked for the 9000.

chingon said:
I saved this. It's up to you if you want to try it. It was posted
by someone else, sorry I don't remember who.

This is what is listed for the 8200. Use at your own risk.

1: Power off printer
2: Hold Resume button then press and hold POWER, the beeper will
sound once.
3: Hold POWER and release RESUME
4: Press RESUME twice then release both POWER and RESUME buttons

5: When the indicator lights steady, press RESUME three(3) times.
The indicator should be ORANGE.

6: Press Power to set data

eGRBiker said:

chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

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WP · Sep 4, 2002

See, now you all had us believing it was a problem with the printer and turns out it wasn't the printer but your choice to use after market inks. I have been using OEM inks in my printers since day one and have never had a problem. I wonder how many other people have the same issue.

Proven fact if you use the wrong quality of 3rd party inks you will destroy your printer. We see it time and time again in this forum.

--
Have a great day
http://www.pbase.com/wp12001

GRBiker said:
chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

GRBiker · Sep 4, 2002

Yes my friends, I stand before you a victim of my own foolishness. Cheap ink was generic IMS ink refill system. You know the stuff you see hanging in a blister pak from the peg in a dept. store right next to the Lexmark printers? You don't suppose having the empty print head exposed (during re-fill proceedures) for 10 minutes+ only two feet away from the blowing air of a window air conditioner had anything to do with it? naw. ;-) But that's beside the point as apparently now I have a bit of a different problem. But, hey, if I can't clear it, then this 2 week old printer gets returned to the store. And Yahoo shopping's $349 street price for the S830D looks even more attaractive (don't need the "D"). Regardless, from now on I will use only better quality inks, and not refill in front of the A/C. stay tuned. Because as some of you young whipper snappers may respond: "duh! If it drys super fast on the paper, whaddya think it's going to do in the print head when your blowing air on it?" Wonder how many of these Canon gets back for nothing more than a bit of dried ink? At a replacement price of some $85 a pop do you think their complaining? They ought to be not more than $39.95. greazy corporate pocket liners anyway.

just yer average naive, stupid, dumb old fart who works on these things late at night when he's too tired to think straight. (if he does at all) ha ha

WP said:
Proven fact if you use the wrong quality of 3rd party inks you will
destroy your printer. We see it time and time again in this forum.

--
Have a great day
http://www.pbase.com/wp12001

GRBiker said:

chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

WP · Sep 4, 2002

Some people have reported great success with using specific brands of aftermarket inks. But as with anything else you need to be careful. If none of us ever made a mistake before we would all be saints. Anyway good luck in your printing. Hope everything works out!
--
Have a great day
http://www.pbase.com/wp12001

GRBiker said:
Yes my friends, I stand before you a victim of my own foolishness.
Cheap ink was generic IMS ink refill system. You know the stuff you
see hanging in a blister pak from the peg in a dept. store right
next to the Lexmark printers? You don't suppose having the empty
print head exposed (during re-fill proceedures) for 10 minutes+
only two feet away from the blowing air of a window air conditioner
had anything to do with it? naw. ;-) But that's beside the point as
apparently now I have a bit of a different problem. But, hey, if I
can't clear it, then this 2 week old printer gets returned to the
store. And Yahoo shopping's $349 street price for the S830D looks
even more attaractive (don't need the "D"). Regardless, from now
on I will use only better quality inks, and not refill in front of
the A/C. stay tuned. Because as some of you young whipper snappers
may respond: "duh! If it drys super fast on the paper, whaddya
think it's going to do in the print head when your blowing air on
it?" Wonder how many of these Canon gets back for nothing more than
a bit of dried ink? At a replacement price of some $85 a pop do you
think their complaining? They ought to be not more than $39.95.
greazy corporate pocket liners anyway.

just yer average naive, stupid, dumb old fart who works on these

things late at night when he's too tired to think straight. (if he
does at all) ha ha

GRBiker · Sep 4, 2002

Cingnon- that didn't work. Also the S820 has no beep.

chingon said:
I saved this. It's up to you if you want to try it. It was posted
by someone else, sorry I don't remember who.

This is what is listed for the 8200. Use at your own risk.

1: Power off printer
2: Hold Resume button then press and hold POWER, the beeper will
sound once.
3: Hold POWER and release RESUME
4: Press RESUME twice then release both POWER and RESUME buttons

5: When the indicator lights steady, press RESUME three(3) times.
The indicator should be ORANGE.

6: Press Power to set data

eGRBiker said:

chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

GRBiker · Sep 4, 2002

Also having the printer sit on top of and toward the back of a small room refridgerator (where heat rises) further exasperates dried up printheads. You just ain't supposed to that. Hey! When your limited to where to sit the dog gone thing ya do whatcha have to do. Besides the beer's in there.

GRBiker said:
just yer average naive, stupid, dumb old fart who works on these

things late at night when he's too tired to think straight. (if he
does at all) ha ha

WP said:

Proven fact if you use the wrong quality of 3rd party inks you will
destroy your printer. We see it time and time again in this forum.

--
Have a great day
http://www.pbase.com/wp12001

GRBiker said:

chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

chingon · Sep 4, 2002

Those universal ink refills are definitely a no-no. Use inkjetgoodies.com ink if you want excellent 3rd party ink. I use it and it's great.

GRBiker said:
GRBiker said:

just yer average naive, stupid, dumb old fart who works on these

things late at night when he's too tired to think straight. (if he
does at all) ha ha

WP said:

Proven fact if you use the wrong quality of 3rd party inks you will
destroy your printer. We see it time and time again in this forum.

--
Have a great day
http://www.pbase.com/wp12001

GRBiker said:

chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

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bfaul · Sep 4, 2002

I've always used precisely the inks and paper recommended by Canon. Never even attempted anything else. I have no brand loyalties here, just a dead printhead.

GRBiker · Sep 5, 2002

Yes, my friend. I have ordered their starter kit for Canon and should as arrive today. Thanks.

chingon said:
GRBiker said:

GRBiker said:

just yer average naive, stupid, dumb old fart who works on these

things late at night when he's too tired to think straight. (if he
does at all) ha ha

WP said:

Proven fact if you use the wrong quality of 3rd party inks you will
destroy your printer. We see it time and time again in this forum.

--
Have a great day
http://www.pbase.com/wp12001

GRBiker said:

chingon said:

acmeron said:

bfaul said:

I am having a very similar problem with a Canon S800 printer. I
went about 3 - 4 months without printing a photograph (just text
and regular colored graphics)
. Now the colors are very off, sometimes missing altogther. It
will come back somewhat if I clean the heads, but the photos are
just not very vivid any more. I figure it's got to be clogged
jets. None of the literature that came with the printer ever
warned about ink drying on the printhead, so I just didn't know. I
have tried everything except buying a new printhead ($90), so
that's next. If this works then I will "maintenance" the printhead
from here on out by printing a small photo every 3-4 days to keep
the jets from drying out. I'd be very, very interested in knowing
how you resolve your problem and will be glad to let you know if I
resolve mine.

BLF

Click to expand...

And to think I used to dislike HP for their expensive printhead
cartridges that I thought were out of date and not state of the
art. the HP cartridges are a bargain when you consider the time and
money trying to get a Canon or Epson to work right. OK, Canon
supporters, blast me.

Click to expand...

Yep, really killed me to get mine working right. I connected it
and started printing. I don't know how I live with it.

Click to expand...

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Click to expand...

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GRBiker · Sep 5, 2002

The only reason my print head flaked out is because some curious old guy thought he was smart removing the two screws and adhesive that secure the nozzle plate to the printhead. Presumably for cleaning and inspection. Even though he felt he was being careful, upon re-assembly the printer talked back to him with the 7 yellow flashes of death that just wouldn't go away. Now awaitng arrival of replacement printhead. Promised tomorrow afternoon. Think I'll buy that Canon extended 3 year warranty.

bfaul said:
I've always used precisely the inks and paper recommended by Canon.
Never even attempted anything else. I have no brand loyalties
here, just a dead printhead.

fotografer · Sep 5, 2002

GRBiker said:
of replacement printhead. Promised tomorrow afternoon. Think I'll
buy that Canon extended 3 year warranty.

Wise move!

--
Fotografer

GRBiker · Sep 5, 2002

Also, I don't really think it's a good idea to be yanking the print head out of the printer needlessly everytime we re-fill or change a cartrdge. Probably best to leave it installed. Less we break and re-connect those electrical contacts the better. After all, we're talking about some precision electronics here. And it's amazing it works at all let alone print such great photos.

GRBiker said:
bfaul said:

I've always used precisely the inks and paper recommended by Canon.
Never even attempted anything else. I have no brand loyalties
here, just a dead printhead.

Click to expand...

Dave98211 · Sep 5, 2002

GRBiker said:
It's printing green! When magenta is called up by a photo, document
or text. It acts like it is sending a signal to both the yellow and
magenta tanks at the same time producing green. Cleaning and deep
cleaning was tried and it's interesting: if I do an immediate
nozzle check after cleaning, the magenta color is there just fine.
But if I then print a small 4x6 picture of say pink blossoms, it
will print green with ocasional pink streaks in it. and then with a
subsequent nozzle check the magenta is missing. Cleaning again
resolves nothing. Also the status monitor is showing the ink tanks
for magenta and cyan 1/3 less than what they actually are. Now the
only thing I did was replace the black cartridge (canon). The
printhead has been carefully inspected and cleaned as per Canon's
instructions. Still have the same problem. hmmm . could the laser
or whatever is used to read ink tank levels be dirty? And if so
sending a screwy signal about magenta? Printer is only two weeks
old. Can't believe the print head would be starting to go. ideas?
Help please!

Dave98211 · Sep 5, 2002

GRBiker said:
It's printing green! When magenta is called up by a photo, document
or text. It acts like it is sending a signal to both the yellow and
magenta tanks at the same time producing green. Cleaning and deep
cleaning was tried and it's interesting: if I do an immediate
nozzle check after cleaning, the magenta color is there just fine.
But if I then print a small 4x6 picture of say pink blossoms, it
will print green with ocasional pink streaks in it. and then with a
subsequent nozzle check the magenta is missing. Cleaning again
resolves nothing. Also the status monitor is showing the ink tanks
for magenta and cyan 1/3 less than what they actually are. Now the
only thing I did was replace the black cartridge (canon). The
printhead has been carefully inspected and cleaned as per Canon's
instructions. Still have the same problem. hmmm . could the laser
or whatever is used to read ink tank levels be dirty? And if so
sending a screwy signal about magenta? Printer is only two weeks
old. Can't believe the print head would be starting to go. ideas?
Help please!

Had sort of similar problems with my S400, so for what it might be worth, I tried all settings, then back to default settings, in desperation I deleted the printer software then re-installed it, fluke or not, maybe not even relevent, maybe just lucky but it's printing normal now, worth a try.

Dave..........

Dave98211 · Sep 5, 2002

GRBiker said:
bfaul said:

I've always used precisely the inks and paper recommended by Canon.
Never even attempted anything else. I have no brand loyalties
here, just a dead printhead.

Click to expand...

Being new to this forum business, I should have started at the bottom of the replies, it looks like you have at least compounded your problems, I'm really amazed for a new printer that the first thing you didn't do was to return it, why would you give yourself so many problems under warranty, anyway maybe my first reply might be of some possible help to others, it certainly beats a partial printer dismantle, good luck.

Dave......

GRBiker · Sep 5, 2002

Couldn't find receipt. Was in wallet two weeks pretty well illegibly faded out. Dept. store hassle. Was told it had a warranty problem and therefore I need to talk with manufacturer first.

griz

Dave said:
GRBiker said:

bfaul said:

I've always used precisely the inks and paper recommended by Canon.
Never even attempted anything else. I have no brand loyalties
here, just a dead printhead.

Click to expand...

Being new to this forum business, I should have started at the bottom of the replies, it looks like you have at least compounded your problems, I'm really amazed for a new printer that the first thing you didn't do was to return it, why would you give yourself so many problems under warranty, anyway maybe my first reply might be of some possible help to others, it certainly beats a partial printer dismantle, good luck.

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Dave......

GRBiker · Sep 5, 2002

Should have just bought a new one and returned old one with new receipt. didn't think of that.

Goodies starter kit arrived today.

GRBiker said:
griz

Dave said:

GRBiker said:

bfaul said:

I've always used precisely the inks and paper recommended by Canon.
Never even attempted anything else. I have no brand loyalties
here, just a dead printhead.

Click to expand...

Being new to this forum business, I should have started at the bottom of the replies, it looks like you have at least compounded your problems, I'm really amazed for a new printer that the first thing you didn't do was to return it, why would you give yourself so many problems under warranty, anyway maybe my first reply might be of some possible help to others, it certainly beats a partial printer dismantle, good luck.

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Dave......

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