slunce
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I guess it's gonna change when they run out of oil.
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Peter Berressem
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I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me...
She showed me her room, isn't it good Norwegian wood?
She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere,
So I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.
I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine,
We talked until two and then she said: "It's time for bed"
She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh.
I told her I didn't, and crawled off to sleep in the bath
And when I awoke, I was alone, this bird had flown
So I lit a fire, isn't it good Norwegian wood.
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She showed me her room, isn't it good Norwegian wood?
She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere,
So I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.
I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine,
We talked until two and then she said: "It's time for bed"
She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh.
I told her I didn't, and crawled off to sleep in the bath
And when I awoke, I was alone, this bird had flown
So I lit a fire, isn't it good Norwegian wood.
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cheers, Peter
Germany
M
Marcamera
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George Harrison, if I remember well. One of his trademark songs with the Beatles.
Rgds>
Well either your memory is failing or mine is: Mostly Lennon, with a little tidying up by McCartney, perhaps the sitar added by Harrison being his only contribution.
Brian A.
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Marcamera
Guest
Checked it, it is my memory that is falling.
You're right. Somehow I thought of Norwegian Wood as a harrison song. Wrong.
Rgds
puttin
Veteran Member
I have to agree with that. I don't mine paying taxes as long as it doesn't go to freeloaders and illegals and their families. I think everyone needs to pay their fair share before they get USA benefits. Some people get alot of free stuff and have not payed anything and that is not fair to the people who bust their a##es working and paying taxes.This is interesting but:
Norway's Human Development Index = 0.971
USA's Human Development Index = 0.956
Not really much difference.
...and I think there are a lot more people trying to move to the US than into Norway (or Canada).
We Americans have a lot of problems and right now they are getting worse, but most of us like our independence and freedom and don't much like socialism.
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Here's something I do know. When a Canadian needs a medical procedure, say, removal of a thyroid because of cancer, and for some silly reason does not want to wait for many weeks or many months until he reaches the front of the line, he travels to the U.S., pays for a doctor, and gets an operation pretty darn fast.
I can't recollect the last time someone in the U.S. decided that he needed to go to Canada for medical procedures that he was delayed for.
I wonder why that's so? Oh, wait. I know. It's because in Canada you have socialism, and you ration resources, including vital medical care, based on how much the government wants to spend.
That's what our new President, Obama, wants to see happen here. Where will all of you Canadians go then, I wonder?
But I'll tell you what. The next time I want uninhibited gay marriage for myself, or some marijuana, I'll come to visit you up there in Toronto, or wherever.
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Here's something I do know. When a Canadian needs a medical procedure, say, removal of a thyroid because of cancer, and for some silly reason does not want to wait for many weeks or many months until he reaches the front of the line, he travels to the U.S., pays for a doctor, and gets an operation pretty darn fast.
I can't recollect the last time someone in the U.S. decided that he needed to go to Canada for medical procedures that he was delayed for.
I wonder why that's so? Oh, wait. I know. It's because in Canada you have socialism, and you ration resources, including vital medical care, based on how much the government wants to spend.
That's what our new President, Obama, wants to see happen here. Where will all of you Canadians go then, I wonder?
But I'll tell you what. The next time I want uninhibited gay marriage for myself, or some marijuana, I'll come to visit you up there in Toronto, or wherever.
springbock
Senior Member
How often does that really happen? You aren't influenced by political TV commercials are you?
What about bus loads of Americans coming to Canada to buy affordable prescription medicine!
You appear to be one of those that has an opinion about Canada but in actuality knows very little about us. Who's our Prime Minister? Tim Horton right?
Our health care system is still rated 7 places above the US by the World Health Organization. So we are definitely doing better than you are.
It bugs you that other countries have a higher standard of living you yours...doesn't it? BTW the US is ranked 13 by the HDI.
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But I'll tell you what. The next time I want uninhibited gay marriage for myself, or some marijuana, I'll come to visit you up there in Toronto, or wherever.
It bugs you that other countries have a higher standard of living you yours...doesn't it? BTW the US is ranked 13 by the HDI.
Actually, no, it doesn't bother me at all what other people think. I find such surveys amusing, in fact.
And it doesn't change the basic fact that people are literally dying to get into the U.S. Maybe they know something you don't. Maybe you need to waive your surveys at them, and they'll change their minds.
It bugs you that other countries have a higher standard of living you yours...doesn't it? BTW the US is ranked 13 by the HDI.
Actually, no, it doesn't bother me at all what other people think. I find such surveys amusing, in fact.
And it doesn't change the basic fact that people are literally dying to get into the U.S. Maybe they know something you don't. Maybe you need to waive your surveys at them, and they'll change their minds.
You are (probably deliberately) missing the point. These two examples have nothing to do with HC, but it's a bit food for thought that the US government isn't necessarily 'smaller' than eg. the Canadian government. The Canadian government happens to me smaller where the US gov is large and vice versa.
So hoards of Canadians are invading the US from the North, the immigration doesn't come from the South?
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Lorang
Leading Member
It is a great country It's not where we are as a nation though that is important, it's where we're heading. And I'm not sure I like what I see, but that is a different story. It is also a country with an abundance of opportunities for great photography.
Some weeks back my father and I drove up north to collect something. There were not much time so I did some drive-by shoting, so to speak. I had a few shots I think shows that there are many beautiful places to take pictures of, like in many other countries!
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Roger
It's not where we are as a nation though that is important, it's where we're heading. And I'm not sure I like what I see, but that is a different story. It is also a country with an abundance of opportunities for great photography.Some weeks back my father and I drove up north to collect something. There were not much time so I did some drive-by shoting, so to speak. I had a few shots I think shows that there are many beautiful places to take pictures of, like in many other countries!
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Roger
I can end your wondering with an answer. There is a world wide excess demand for doctors (and nurses). What is happening is a price (wage) competition, doctors are wooed to higher paying places. So congrats if you are one of the Americans with HC, you and the doctors are the winners in this game, but there is a downside too. The price is higher (you pay for this) and 40 million of your fellow citizens cannot afford HC and the problem with too few doctors are 'exported' to lesser able parts of the world.
Well, if the whole world relied on private hospitals/ HC, the inefficiency of the system would mean a much much greater deficit of doctors/ nurses. In this case you would pay even more for your HC, and even more of your fellow citizens would go without HC. Btw. reducing the price (wage) competition on doctors would not lead to fewer doctors outside the US.
I don't need either of these 'services' but I'd like to visit Toronto anyway.
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Lorang
Leading Member
It is a great country
Some weeks back my father and I drove up north to collect something. There were not much time so I did some drive-by shoting, so to speak. I had a few shots I think shows that there are many beautiful places to take pictures of, like in many other countries!
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K10D + DA 16-45
Cheers
Roger
Lorang
Leading Member
It is a great country
Some weeks back my father and I drove up north to collect something. There were not much time so I did some drive-by shoting, so to speak. I had a few shots I think shows that there are many beautiful places to take pictures of, like in many other countries!
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Cheers
Roger
Roger
Lorang
Leading Member
Sorry for accidentally bumping my own post!
Roger
Roger
On the other hand, there are tons of americans going to Canada and trying to pass as canadians to have access to medical procedures they can't afford in the U.S.
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CLOSED ACCOUNT
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This type of rhetoric is based upon myth and not facts.
All emergency and life-threatening surgeries are performed immediately here in Canada...there is only any waiting period for non emergency cases...which is obviously understandable and acceptable to most people.
I personally, have had 5 eye surgeries (2 in the UK, 1 in Germany, and 2 here in Canada)...on all occasions - the wait times were short. About 4 weeks. In Germany, I only actually waited 4 days for the operation.
My next door neighbour is having double hernia surgery this month - his wait time for the op was approx 5 weeks. Again, this is a simple, non emergency procedure -
so to wait a little while is fine.
When I make a regular appointment to see my family physician - I never have to wait longer than 2 days to see him. Many times I can get an appointment the very same day. IF I need an X-Ray, ultrasound, blood tests, etc - there are 3 clinics very close by where I can get the services done right away.
Unfortunately, the US anti universal-healthcare right-wing propaganda is creating a false image of countries like Canada, France, UK, Germany, etc which all have a very good medical system. France has an excellent medical system - probably the best in the world.
Personally, I would much prefer to wait 4-5 weeks for a completely FREE non-life threatening operation - rather than have 50 million citizens with absolutely NO healthcare coverage at all....and those that do, have to pay high prices for decent medical coverage.
KEV
Well, there you have it, though not tons. But the vast majority of the uninsured, as evidenced by Obama's proposal to PENALIZE them if they don't somehow buy into it, are the young who make the statistical argument that they don't want to buy it, because they are essentially healthy. And the vast majority of Americans do have it, because it comes with their jobs. And even if one loses a job, one can have it through COBRA for a year or two now.
I work for a living. I want to be able to buy insurance, as provided by my job. I don't want my ability to access insurance limited by Obama's rationing of insurance to everyone, including, as we all know and will find, illegal aliens.