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After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around, I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to you, they are it.
 
What are the brand and model of the converters you mention? Can you post sample images?

Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
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Bernzie:

Just because it will screw onto the end of a G2 doesn't mean it should be there. Take the Titanium series for instance. Absolute junk. Most non-OEM lenses on the market are for video cameras not still cameras. IMHO...there are very few quality lenses on the market to choose from. Canon, Olympus and some say Tiffen are good, though I must disagree with the Tiffen based on the examples I have seen. BTW, the glass in my Olympus A-200, 1.5 teleconverter is awesome! A perfect fit to my G2 with the Lensmate adapter. Just wish Olympus had made a 3X!

Randy Sluder
"Shoot more, shoot more often."

http://www.pbase.com/randy_sluder
http://www.sluderdesignstudio.com
 
sure, but ppl shopping for these accessories should note that, in the experience of numerous other users..

(a) tiffen lenses are pretty good for the price
(b) canon and oly are better, but more expensive, bigger and heavier

(c) raynox, kodak, etc are awful and should be avoided like the plague (horribly CA, softness, distortion, etc)
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.
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Randy Sluder said:
Bernzie:

Just because it will screw onto the end of a G2 doesn't mean it
should be there. Take the Titanium series for instance. Absolute
junk. Most non-OEM lenses on the market are for video cameras not
still cameras. IMHO...there are very few quality lenses on the
market to choose from. Canon, Olympus and some say Tiffen are good,
though I must disagree with the Tiffen based on the examples I have
seen. BTW, the glass in my Olympus A-200, 1.5 teleconverter is
awesome! A perfect fit to my G2 with the Lensmate adapter. Just
wish Olympus had made a 3X!
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How do you deal with LENS errors because it hits the back of the teleconverter? I just got the A-200 & I get that problem. Another poster said he gets aroud this problem by using a UV filter in between which I'll prolly investigate soon, but I worry about more vignetting.

g'day
youth
 
youth wrote:

How do you deal with LENS errors because it hits the back of the teleconverter? I just got the A-200 & I get that problem. Another poster said he gets aroud this problem by using a UV filter in between which I'll prolly investigate soon, but I worry about more vignetting.

Youth:

Are you using a LensMate or another adapter? I never have the problem you mentioned as I always attach the A-200 to the LensMate with a Minolta AC L 35 (UV) filter in between. The Minolta is one of the thinnest UV filters made. I also do the same with my polarizer. As a matter of fact, I can even zoom back a little without vignetting which I understand can not be done with the Tiffen. Most of my "far reaching" (relative term here) photos on my pbase were shot with the Olympus A-200. An awesome lens for the money, IMHO.

G'day Mate!

Randy Sluder
"Shoot more, shoot more often."

http://www.pbase.com/randy_sluder
http://www.sluderdesignstudio.com
 
Hello youth
youth said:
How do you deal with LENS errors because it hits the back of the
teleconverter? I just got the A-200 & I get that problem. Another
poster said he gets aroud this problem by using a UV filter in
between which I'll prolly investigate soon, but I worry about more
vignetting.
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I ususually screw the A-200 onto a UV/Lens Hood combo and
don't get any vignetting. Two filters are no problems, maybe even
three will work.

Greetings

Sam
 
Randy Sluder said:
Youth:
Are you using a LensMate or another adapter? I never have the
problem you mentioned as I always attach the A-200 to the LensMate
with a Minolta AC L 35 (UV) filter in between.
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I'm using a lensmate. You're not seeing it because you have it on a UV filter. I guess it's too close if you screw it on directly. Oh well I guess it time to shop for a UV filter.

g'day
youth
 
Will feedback the brand and model later... left the info somewhere ...can't find it yet. I bought the wideangle one but still trying to find a higher than 2.5x telephoto converter.

Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom, sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
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The brand/model is TAMA F130. Telephoto is the same brand plus other brands as well. Made in Japan.
Bernzie said:
Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the
wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a
little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom,
sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to
test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if
the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them
here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
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Where can one be found? A sample of a brick wall would be great! Also a tree with leaves in the corners.

Thanks,

Morris
Bernzie said:
Bernzie said:
Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the
wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a
little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom,
sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to
test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if
the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them
here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
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The following pic is from G2 lens no zoom :-



And the following is with 0.38x converter :-



Do you have any samples of such comparisons with your converters? Hope to see them too.
morris said:
Thanks,

Morris
Bernzie said:
Bernzie said:
Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the
wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a
little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom,
sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to
test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if
the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them
here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
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Can you post larger images? I would like to see the results form the 2.5x tele as well.

Morris
Bernzie said:


And the following is with 0.38x converter :-



Do you have any samples of such comparisons with your converters?
Hope to see them too.
morris said:
Thanks,

Morris
Bernzie said:
Bernzie said:
Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the
wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a
little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom,
sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to
test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if
the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them
here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
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Morris,

Edit thumbnail properties and paste the link on browser. Replace the word "small" with "large" and reload - Blurring and softness on picture is terrible - pictures are useless unless to make thumbnails !!!

Regards,
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:


And the following is with 0.38x converter :-



Do you have any samples of such comparisons with your converters?
Hope to see them too.
morris said:
Thanks,

Morris
Bernzie said:
Bernzie said:
Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the
wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a
little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom,
sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to
test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if
the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them
here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
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--
Paulo Abreu
http://www.pbase.com/psergio
 
Paulo Abreu said:
Morris,
Edit thumbnail properties and paste the link on browser. Replace
the word "small" with "large" and reload - Blurring and softness on
picture is terrible - pictures are useless unless to make
thumbnails !!!
Click to expand...
Typical camcorder chromatic aberrations and softness.



And while I can't be sure, this doesn't really look like it is 13mm equivalent. That 0.38x looks more like 0.8x to me.
 
In the current issue of Outdoor Photographer, they have a write-up on some add-on lenses. They are expensive ($300-$400?).

Century Optics WA Lenses

Wide-angle focal lengths down to 20mm equivalents are possible with compact digital cameras. Text And Photography By Rob Sheppard

THK Super Tele Converter

Kenko’s 8X monocular/converter increases the magnification of digital camera zooms. Text And Photography By Rob Sheppard
warren prasek said:
(a) tiffen lenses are pretty good for the price
(b) canon and oly are better, but more expensive, bigger and heavier
(c) raynox, kodak, etc are awful and should be avoided like the
plague (horribly CA, softness, distortion, etc)
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.
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--
http://www.pbase.com/golfpic
 
Morris
Paulo Abreu said:
Regards,
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:


And the following is with 0.38x converter :-



Do you have any samples of such comparisons with your converters?
Hope to see them too.
morris said:
Thanks,

Morris
Bernzie said:
Bernzie said:
Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the
wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a
little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom,
sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to
test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if
the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them
here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
Click to expand...
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--
Paulo Abreu
http://www.pbase.com/psergio
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I compressed the original jpg pics to reduce the file size from > 1MB to

The following is the actual size of the thumbnail....



They are also available in http://www.pbase.com/bernzie/test1

Is there something you are looking out for in the bigger pics? What kind of flaws are u checking for?

Thanks.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:


And the following is with 0.38x converter :-



Do you have any samples of such comparisons with your converters?
Hope to see them too.
morris said:
Thanks,

Morris
Bernzie said:
Bernzie said:
Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the
wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a
little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom,
sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to
test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if
the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them
here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
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Hi Paulo,

"Blurring and softness" .... do u mean the overall picture or parts of it? Are u referring to the way I took the picture or the wideangle converter?

As mentioned in another post, the pics have been compressed about 30% to reduce upload time and save space. Is that the cause of it? Will try posting the original pics, with my 56K connection later.

TQ
Paulo Abreu said:
Regards,
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:


And the following is with 0.38x converter :-



Do you have any samples of such comparisons with your converters?
Hope to see them too.
morris said:
Thanks,

Morris
Bernzie said:
Bernzie said:
Do you wan me to snap a certain subject for you, to test the
wideangle ability? I'm sort of a beginner, so you have to be a
little specific what you want me to snap.... is it at minimal zoom,
sharpness +1, auto P mode, use tripod, etc.? What's the best way to
test.... snap a building and its sides at an upward angle to see if
the pic concaves?

My images are with me/people in it, so I can't post them
here....sorry. I seldom take scenery pics by itself.
morris said:
Morris
Bernzie said:
After all the reading of this forum and a little shopping around,
I've sort of concluded that it does not matter when it comes to
brands for accessories. Anything can fit to the G2 as long as the
adapter or rings are available, to match the thread sizes. At
first, I thought there were compatibility requirements and so forth.

But after checking what lens/converters are the most powerful on
the forum, I find more powerful ones in the market. So the list is
endless and not exhaustive.

I've found 0.38x wide angle converters and 2.5x telephoto (3x too
but adapter was not available at that time). So far, no vignetting
problems... still keeping a lookout for higher power ones then.

So, for all new to G2, dun worry about the brands and models
recommended or available, as long as they fit and looks good to
you, they are it.
Click to expand...
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--
Paulo Abreu
http://www.pbase.com/psergio
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Hi eg,

Are u referring to the wideangle converter as the cause of the "camcorder chromatic aberration and softness"?

Do you have pics to compare between normal G2 and 0.8x converter? As mentioned before, I'm just a beginner and may have been taken in by the shop vendor. Not sure of what kind of quality I'm supposed to get when comparing brands. Perhaps I should go back to vendor and take sample pics from Canon 0.8x to compare against my 0.38x.... u think that's better?

Thanks.
eg said:
Paulo Abreu said:
Morris,
Edit thumbnail properties and paste the link on browser. Replace
the word "small" with "large" and reload - Blurring and softness on
picture is terrible - pictures are useless unless to make
thumbnails !!!
Click to expand...
Typical camcorder chromatic aberrations and softness.



And while I can't be sure, this doesn't really look like it is 13mm
equivalent. That 0.38x looks more like 0.8x to me.
Click to expand...
 
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