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I'm looking at image management software, and someone pointed me at imatch. Has anyone used it, and got any recommendations/observations?

Thx.
 
software you can buy IMHO.

I use it & I think I have tried all of them at one time or another.

-John
 
Yes, and it is WONDERFUL. Use it for just a little while and you won't be happy with anything else.

Also, Mario provides great support and is very responsive in adding new features.

--Alan
I'm looking at image management software, and someone pointed me at
imatch. Has anyone used it, and got any
recommendations/observations?

Thx.
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Canon D60, 28-70L, 75-300IS, 28-135IS, 50 f/1.8, 420EX
Kodak DC4800
 
Johm, Alan, thanks for your replies.

How extensive is the scripting language? For example, I want to be able to rename all my files from CRW_nnnn.crw to ABC.CRW where:
A = the date (as stored in the EXIF), but not the time
B = D60 - i.e. the camera name
C = nnnn the four digits from the original name.

Is this possible? Is it also possible to search the database for related files, such as CRW_nnnnL.tif, the linear converted file?

Thanks.
 
Each seems to have it's strengths and weaknesses. I love IMatch because I can categorize my images just about any way I want. I've got over 5,000 images cataloged so far and that is small time compared to the power users. As to your specific question I can't address it as I've never gotten into that area. You might check their forum on Yahoo however. It can be found here.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imatchuserforum/

Good luck,

billtoo
Johm, Alan, thanks for your replies.

How extensive is the scripting language? For example, I want to be
able to rename all my files from CRW_nnnn.crw to ABC.CRW where:
A = the date (as stored in the EXIF), but not the time
B = D60 - i.e. the camera name
C = nnnn the four digits from the original name.

Is this possible? Is it also possible to search the database for
related files, such as CRW_nnnnL.tif, the linear converted file?

Thanks.
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http://www.pbase.com/billtoo
 
If you download the trial version (good for 30 days) you can pull down the help tab and access a Pdf version of the entire 330 page user's manual.

billtoo again...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imatchuserforum/

Good luck,

billtoo
Johm, Alan, thanks for your replies.

How extensive is the scripting language? For example, I want to be
able to rename all my files from CRW_nnnn.crw to ABC.CRW where:
A = the date (as stored in the EXIF), but not the time
B = D60 - i.e. the camera name
C = nnnn the four digits from the original name.

Is this possible? Is it also possible to search the database for
related files, such as CRW_nnnnL.tif, the linear converted file?

Thanks.
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http://www.pbase.com/billtoo
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http://www.pbase.com/billtoo
 
I don't think you can save things out as raw, but you may be able to rename the file. I would send an e-mail to [email protected] and Mario will answer your question quickly.

--Alan
Johm, Alan, thanks for your replies.

How extensive is the scripting language? For example, I want to be
able to rename all my files from CRW_nnnn.crw to ABC.CRW where:
A = the date (as stored in the EXIF), but not the time
B = D60 - i.e. the camera name
C = nnnn the four digits from the original name.

Is this possible? Is it also possible to search the database for
related files, such as CRW_nnnnL.tif, the linear converted file?

Thanks.
--
Canon D60, 28-70L, 75-300IS, 28-135IS, 50 f/1.8, 420EX
Kodak DC4800
 
I'm looking at image management software, and someone pointed me at
imatch. Has anyone used it, and got any
recommendations/observations?
I've OFTEN heard both it and ThumbsPlus recommended. I briefly tried them both and chose ThumbsPlus because it better fit my workflow. Both have nice features I wish would be shared by the other.

Complaints about imatch:
  • Could not do a single-step open to photoshop. I could find no way to get a hot-key or some shortcut to open an image in Photoshop. I can't believe this isn't there, but I never found it. This completely kills the usefulness of the program for me.
  • The EXIF info for my Canon D60 was nearly useless. Even Photoshop does a better job. ThumbsPlus is good as is Irfanview. YarcPlus is top dog though, with pop-ups with just the right info as well as a separate EXIF window with all the info.
Complaints about thumbs plus:
  • I really want some EXIF info in the info tab (or an EXIF tab). Having to select properties every time is annoying.
  • Having the preview window allow zooming or just a selectable higher resolution would be nice.
  • Categories for keywords like imatch would be great. Imatch really has some nice stuff for tagging and categorizing images. ThumbPlus just uses simple keywords.
Overall the ThumbsPlus complaints were feature wants, while the Imatch stuff was a constant frustration. This is because I want to use the program as the tool to go through my pictures as I get them off the camera, do some initial stuff like weed out bad photos, lossless rotate, and such. Slide-show stuff to see the good ones, then open them in Photoshop for processing. Being able to quickly process all my files is a must, which both tools handled. As a tool for managing large databases of images, they both work but I think Imatch has an edge -- it seems to be have some design advantages for this (mostly because it was designed for exactly this). However for my use, this was not as important as the processing steps within a directory, and there ThumbsPlus won.
 
Why do you say the EXIF info is nearly useless? Scanning through the manaual it seems very complete - is there something I'm missing?
I'm looking at image management software, and someone pointed me at
imatch. Has anyone used it, and got any
recommendations/observations?
I've OFTEN heard both it and ThumbsPlus recommended. I briefly
tried them both and chose ThumbsPlus because it better fit my
workflow. Both have nice features I wish would be shared by the
other.

Complaints about imatch:
  • Could not do a single-step open to photoshop. I could find no
way to get a hot-key or some shortcut to open an image in
Photoshop. I can't believe this isn't there, but I never found it.
This completely kills the usefulness of the program for me.
  • The EXIF info for my Canon D60 was nearly useless. Even
Photoshop does a better job. ThumbsPlus is good as is Irfanview.
YarcPlus is top dog though, with pop-ups with just the right info
as well as a separate EXIF window with all the info.

Complaints about thumbs plus:
  • I really want some EXIF info in the info tab (or an EXIF tab).
Having to select properties every time is annoying.
  • Having the preview window allow zooming or just a selectable
higher resolution would be nice.
  • Categories for keywords like imatch would be great. Imatch
really has some nice stuff for tagging and categorizing images.
ThumbPlus just uses simple keywords.

Overall the ThumbsPlus complaints were feature wants, while the
Imatch stuff was a constant frustration. This is because I want to
use the program as the tool to go through my pictures as I get them
off the camera, do some initial stuff like weed out bad photos,
lossless rotate, and such. Slide-show stuff to see the good ones,
then open them in Photoshop for processing. Being able to quickly
process all my files is a must, which both tools handled. As a
tool for managing large databases of images, they both work but I
think Imatch has an edge -- it seems to be have some design
advantages for this (mostly because it was designed for exactly
this). However for my use, this was not as important as the
processing steps within a directory, and there ThumbsPlus won.
 
  • Could not do a single-step open to photoshop. I could find no
way to get a hot-key or some shortcut to open an image in
Photoshop. I can't believe this isn't there, but I never found it.
This completely kills the usefulness of the program for me.
You can do this, by simply setting up associations.
  • The EXIF info for my Canon D60 was nearly useless. Even
Photoshop does a better job. ThumbsPlus is good as is Irfanview.
YarcPlus is top dog though, with pop-ups with just the right info
as well as a separate EXIF window with all the info.
I don't mean to sound rude, but did you realize that you can customize the EXIF tab with what you see through the preferences AND that you can see all the EXIF with the EXIF editor?

I can get more EXIF information than I can see in PS7.

--Alan

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Canon D60, 28-70L, 75-300IS, 28-135IS, 50 f/1.8, 420EX
Kodak DC4800
 
iMatch is IMO by far and away the best image database management tool out there, bar none. I've tried thumbs plus, acdsee, etc etc... iMatch is awesome.

I use ACDsee to browse my files when they first download from my camera, but when i archive them to CD i always use iMatch to set keywords by nested category/subcategory, etc.

I was disappointed by every other app, but iMatch is really quite superlative, full of features, options and power. Takes some time to figure out, but well worth the investment (i've got around 20,000 images to archive...)
  • Could not do a single-step open to photoshop. I could find no
way to get a hot-key or some shortcut to open an image in
Photoshop. I can't believe this isn't there, but I never found it.
This completely kills the usefulness of the program for me.
You can do this, by simply setting up associations.
  • The EXIF info for my Canon D60 was nearly useless. Even
Photoshop does a better job. ThumbsPlus is good as is Irfanview.
YarcPlus is top dog though, with pop-ups with just the right info
as well as a separate EXIF window with all the info.
I don't mean to sound rude, but did you realize that you can
customize the EXIF tab with what you see through the preferences
AND that you can see all the EXIF with the EXIF editor?

I can get more EXIF information than I can see in PS7.

--Alan

--
Canon D60, 28-70L, 75-300IS, 28-135IS, 50 f/1.8, 420EX
Kodak DC4800
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i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.
 
Have been using it for 6-9 months. Great product, support, and frequent updates.
Ron H
I use ACDsee to browse my files when they first download from my
camera, but when i archive them to CD i always use iMatch to set
keywords by nested category/subcategory, etc.

I was disappointed by every other app, but iMatch is really quite
superlative, full of features, options and power. Takes some time
to figure out, but well worth the investment (i've got around
20,000 images to archive...)
  • Could not do a single-step open to photoshop. I could find no
way to get a hot-key or some shortcut to open an image in
Photoshop. I can't believe this isn't there, but I never found it.
This completely kills the usefulness of the program for me.
You can do this, by simply setting up associations.
  • The EXIF info for my Canon D60 was nearly useless. Even
Photoshop does a better job. ThumbsPlus is good as is Irfanview.
YarcPlus is top dog though, with pop-ups with just the right info
as well as a separate EXIF window with all the info.
I don't mean to sound rude, but did you realize that you can
customize the EXIF tab with what you see through the preferences
AND that you can see all the EXIF with the EXIF editor?

I can get more EXIF information than I can see in PS7.

--Alan

--
Canon D60, 28-70L, 75-300IS, 28-135IS, 50 f/1.8, 420EX
Kodak DC4800
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i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.
 
Perhaps I should have just kept my mouth shut. I thought I'd just mention the choice I made, then I remembered the list I had made a couple months back when I tried them both and commented on the things that bothered me about each. I didn't mean that Imatch was a bad program in any way. Maybe as you guys say, I'm just not using the program correctly.

I reinstalled it to see if I can get a better handle on what I was thinking.
  • Could not do a single-step open to photoshop. I could find no
way to get a hot-key or some shortcut to open an image in
Photoshop. I can't believe this isn't there, but I never found it.
This completely kills the usefulness of the program for me.
You can do this, by simply setting up associations.
I don't see anything in the program or manual that explains how. It seems I can get a double click and a control double click to do various things. My choices are run selection, edit image (with the built-in editor only), or open with the Windows association. I am unable to get Imatch to open my image in Photoshop unless I have Windows set to use Photoshop for all JPGs (which makes Windows take all day long when it opens folders). Is this what you mean? ThumbsPlus allows me to specify my own editor. If Imatch would let me use an external editor (Photoshop) and use the view panel or slide show for quick looking at the images, I'd be happy.
  • The EXIF info for my Canon D60 was nearly useless. Even
Photoshop does a better job. ThumbsPlus is good as is Irfanview.
YarcPlus is top dog though, with pop-ups with just the right info
as well as a separate EXIF window with all the info.
I don't mean to sound rude, but did you realize that you can
customize the EXIF tab with what you see through the preferences
AND that you can see all the EXIF with the EXIF editor?

I can get more EXIF information than I can see in PS7.
I retract at least part of this -- it is better than I remember and certainly better than Photoshop. My comment of "nearly useless" was totally out of line and plain wrong. My problem was certain tags I could not see, and over the months of not using the program I obviously had a memory lapse.

Yes, I customized the EXIF tag. I really like the ability to customize what you see. Things I don't know how to get: the camera mode (e.g. Av-priority, Tv-priority, Manual, etc. I see exposure program, but this doesn't show anything. And more importantly, the lens information (min focal length, max focal length). What lens was I using? This is a Canon specific thing, but I really like to have it as almost every focal length is covered by multiple lenses.

I cannot get the EXIF Editor to come up for any of my images, either by clicking on the button or shift-F12. It doesn't do anything -- not even a message explaining why it isn't available. I've tried both JPG and CRW files from my camera.

I really wanted to use Imatch. It's sorting capabilities are very nice, and in many ways it is nicer than ThumbsPlus (which I think is quite expensive for what it does, but that's life under Windows). But I just wasn't able to make Imatch fit for me. My skin probably isn't thick enough for posting to public forums -- I always seem to get myself into these things. If every other post wasn't "I use it, it's great!" I wouldn't have replied. It is great, but it wasn't what I chose, and those were my reasons why not. I'm sorry I offended everyone. Perhaps I should write to the author since the changes would not take much work to incorporate (and to the author of ThumbsPlus for his issues, though the catagorization would be a non-trivial design issue).
 
I'm in the process of switching from Extensis Portfolio 6 to Imatch.
Imatch deals with exif data in photoshop files where Portfolio drops
that data. Imatch is very proactively supported by the developer.

I've found Imatch to have a more difficult learning curve than
Portfolio but Imatch deals with Canon Raw files while Portfolio
does not. Imatch does a much better job with offline storage.
Extensis haven't been particularly responsive to questions and
are difficult to communicate with. All in all, Imatch is one of the
best value propositions of any of the software I use at home or
work.

Like others have said, download the 30 day trial version and explore
it. It really is a very powerful tool.

-Framus
 

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