New 1D owner - What workflow

I've just purchased a 1D (quite an upgrade from my D30) and am looking for Photoshop actions to purchase/DL to assist my workflow.

I already own BreezeBrowser an YarcPls, but am looking for something to convert the linear tiffs and allow me to select different levels of sharpening and/or saturation.

I am aware of Fred Miranda's 1D LPbatch 16-bit (LinearPRO batch) v2.9. Is this all there is, is it the best, are there any others etc. etc.

Also grateful if 1D users would post their workflow.

thanks
Keith

Bump, 'cause I'm in the exact same situation.

Wanted to Bump again - this time, I thought I'd add some more info.

I currently shoot mainly family stuff but want to experiment more with sports photography and the great looking stuff I've seen linked from this site..

My current inventory includes:
70-200 2.8L IS
100-400 4.5-5.6L
28-135 3.5-5.6 IS
50 1.4
20 2.8
550 EX
Lowepro Phototrekker Classic

Keith
http://www.steedefamily.com

I can understand people wanting to use "canned" Photoshop actions to process their images, as it can be a time saver. This would be especially important if one is dealing with very large numbers of images, shot under similar conditions.

Even though it is a bit more time consuming, I prefer to use curves and levels, unsharp mask, etc., in Photoshop and custom tweak each image as necessary. This gives me the ability to fine-tune each image to get it looking the way I want it to. I find that the settings for one image are usually not quite right for another, and my results are better custom tweaking each one. It's not especially time-consuming, as I use keyboard shortcuts to quickly modify each image.

I also understand why people use Linear conversions, but my personal experience is that I'm able to do what I want with a non-linear, 16-bit conversion (using ARF Mode 2 of YarcPlus), and using Photoshop (7.01), and am pretty happy with the results. I have been unable to convince myself that using Linear conversions gives me results superior to what I can do with non-linear 16-bit editing, although I know others have drawn different conclusions.

My $.02 worth.

Don
http://www.dlcphotography.net

Keith...While I haven't yet purchased a 1D, I feel as if I'm somewhat in your shoes. One of the reasons I haven't purchased one yet is that I've been very comfortable in my workflow with the D30. Over the course of the last year and a half I've read tons of posts, articles, and tips on the best ways to maximimize what I can get out of the camera. While I know the same sort of info is out there for the 1D, it all seems so scattered in comparison to how it all came together for the D30. One of the best sites out there that pulled it all together for me was Don Cohen's site.

And Don...if you're still reading/participating in this thread, I want you to know that the D30 tips page you have on your site was a God-send early on. Before I purchased the D30, your site help me understand the issues and get a level of comfort with it. It also helped me envision a good workflow. I just want to say thank you.

But I'm sure time constraints and other priorities make doing the same thing for a 1D page simply not workable. Besides...you've already done your kindness for the photography community...probably good to let someone else have a turn

So in that respect, as I contemplate moving to the 1D, things seem a bit more cloudy than when I purchased the D30...especially in the area of color management. I've actually invested a good amount of time and energy in learning a bit about color management therory, but I've approched that from the perspective of a D30 owner. Now, with the prospect of owning a 1D looming large, it appears I'll have to begin a new learning curve...to say nothing of learning the features of the camera itself.

So Keith, I'm not sure there's an easy answer for us. I guess we just stay up late at night reading as much as we can on the net. But from what others have been saying about the camera, it appears it will be worth it.

-Taz

As suggested by Don .. I guess it depends on what you are shooting.

I have been doing sports and uploading to web on the day .. I have been shooting upwards of 800 images per day .. all Jpegs.

Photoshop comes in after doing some basic cropping etc to belt through and do the basics. "Orders" however are individually tweaked - and by hand/eye.

Couple low res jpegs at:
http://www.bsra.org.au/Public/Photos/

For most of the shots this is fine - there is the occaisional shot where I would have liked to have the raw .. but I am already carrying a couple of gig's of CF cards and don't want to purchase any more for a while

Generally shooting in colour matrix 1 .. although I reckon the reds are overdone.

Cheers
James

Keith Steede said:

I've just purchased a 1D (quite an upgrade from my D30) and am
looking for Photoshop actions to purchase/DL to assist my workflow.

I already own BreezeBrowser an YarcPls, but am looking for
something to convert the linear tiffs and allow me to select
different levels of sharpening and/or saturation.

I am aware of Fred Miranda's 1D LPbatch 16-bit (LinearPRO batch)
v2.9. Is this all there is, is it the best, are there any others
etc. etc.

Also grateful if 1D users would post their workflow.

thanks
Keith

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I have actually been using a modified version of your D30 workflow for images from my D30. The major difference is that I was converting to Linear 16-bit Tiffs and then used Pekka's action to convert and sharpen.

I still made individual level adjustments and cropping (if necessary) to each shot, and I found I had much more control with pleasing results when adjusting levels after converting. I'm not sure if this was a result of using 16-bit Tiffs or Linear conversions (vs adjusting levels on JPEGs)

I guess the jury is still out on whether or not Linear conversions are worth the extra time - as you suggested, I'll need to try for my self.

Your D30 workflow certainly helped to spring-board my learning curve on how to "process" my D30 images. I guess I was looking for something similar for the 1D.

Thanks to websites like yours, I probably have enough knowledge of the workflow process to determine what's best for me and my new 1D. (I've only seen the images on the LCD so far, and have not had time to d/l to my PC - hopefully tonight) but what I can see so far, is head and shoulders above my D30 images.

I'd still like to know if other 1D Photoshop actions exist

thanks again
Keith
http://www.steedefamily.com

Hi Kieth,

I'm glad my site has been of help to you!

I imagine you're already aware of it, but Fred Miranda is one of the more popular sources for various PS actions:

http://www.fredmiranda.com

You might do a search at Rob Galbraith's 1D forum as well, as I believe someone else has some PS Actions that many people seem to like but my brain is blocking on his name at the moment, unfortunately.

It sounds though like you're well on your way, and have more than enough knowledge/experience to sort this stuff out.

Good luck.

Don
http://www.dlcphotography.net

Keith Steede said:

I have actually been using a modified version of your D30 workflow
for images from my D30. The major difference is that I was
converting to Linear 16-bit Tiffs and then used Pekka's action to
convert and sharpen.

I still made individual level adjustments and cropping (if
necessary) to each shot, and I found I had much more control with
pleasing results when adjusting levels after converting. I'm not
sure if this was a result of using 16-bit Tiffs or Linear
conversions (vs adjusting levels on JPEGs)

I guess the jury is still out on whether or not Linear conversions
are worth the extra time - as you suggested, I'll need to try for
my self.

Your D30 workflow certainly helped to spring-board my learning
curve on how to "process" my D30 images. I guess I was looking for
something similar for the 1D.

Thanks to websites like yours, I probably have enough knowledge of
the workflow process to determine what's best for me and my new 1D.
(I've only seen the images on the LCD so far, and have not had time
to d/l to my PC - hopefully tonight) but what I can see so far, is
head and shoulders above my D30 images.

I'd still like to know if other 1D Photoshop actions exist

thanks again
Keith
http://www.steedefamily.com

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I'm really glad my site was of benefit to you!

As for the 1D/Workflow, I probably should put something together. I guess in part I've been waiting for the software tools like YarcPlus and BreezeBrowser to fully mature in this respect. The newest version of YP implements some EXIF management tools, which has been missing or incomlete, from either application for 1D files, which will help.

Color management is a complex area, and Ian Lyons site is a excellent site for this:

http://www.computer-darkroom.com/

All the best,

Don
http://www.dlcphotography.net

I finally d/l my first set of pics to my PC last night. I tried to do my first sort using BreezeBrowser or YarcPlus but found the images too small, and it took too long to view full screen images.

Prior to conversion from Raw, I like to sort through my pics to determine which can be deleted. Viewing them at full, or at least 1/2 screen size was ideal to check for detail that I may or may not want.

Is there software out there that allows me to quickly sort through the images at a larger resolution. (I was shooting RAW only - do I need to shoot Raw + Jpeg to allow this)?

Keith

Hi Keith,

Keith Steede said:

I finally d/l my first set of pics to my PC last night. I tried to
do my first sort using BreezeBrowser or YarcPlus but found the
images too small, and it took too long to view full screen images.

Prior to conversion from Raw, I like to sort through my pics to
determine which can be deleted. Viewing them at full, or at least
1/2 screen size was ideal to check for detail that I may or may not
want.

Is there software out there that allows me to quickly sort through
the images at a larger resolution. (I was shooting RAW only - do I
need to shoot Raw + Jpeg to allow this)?

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The easiest solution is to shoot Raw+Small Jpeg. Otherwise, the only way to view a full-screen preview is going through a conversion process, which takes time. The reason for this is that the 1D TIF/Raw file does not contain an embedded larger size Jpeg (as the D30 and D60 do).

You can either download, set YP or BB to produce viewing Jpegs, and then go do something else while it's doing this, or shoot Raw+Jpeg to begin with.

To the best of my knowledge, there is currently no other way to get around this since the TIF only has a very low resolution thumbnail that can be accessed immediately.

Don
http://www.dlcphotography.net

Yeah, same thing happened to me. I "solved" this in BreezeBrowser by going to File-> Preferences-> Image Display and clicking on the button labeled "EOS 1D Settings...". Ckick the checkbox labeled "Auto create JPEG when preview JPEG doesn't exist" and select small or large preview (I use small).

When I have a new set of RAWs to goo through, I open up the directory in BB, click on the first image, scroll down and shift-click on the last image, and then select View-> Slideshow )or just press CTRL-S). This will cause BB to cycle through all the shots and create the JPEGs.

I always shoot RAW, and don't want to lose space on my media by shooting RAW+JPEG.

Brent

Keith Steede said:

I finally d/l my first set of pics to my PC last night. I tried to
do my first sort using BreezeBrowser or YarcPlus but found the
images too small, and it took too long to view full screen images.

Prior to conversion from Raw, I like to sort through my pics to
determine which can be deleted. Viewing them at full, or at least
1/2 screen size was ideal to check for detail that I may or may not
want.

Is there software out there that allows me to quickly sort through
the images at a larger resolution. (I was shooting RAW only - do I
need to shoot Raw + Jpeg to allow this)?

Keith

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Brent DeShazer said:

When I have a new set of RAWs to goo through, I open up the
directory in BB, click on the first image, scroll down and
shift-click on the last image, and then select View-> Slideshow )or
just press CTRL-S). This will cause BB to cycle through all the
shots and create the JPEGs.

I always shoot RAW, and don't want to lose space on my media by
shooting RAW+JPEG.

Brent

Keith Steede said:

I finally d/l my first set of pics to my PC last night. I tried to
do my first sort using BreezeBrowser or YarcPlus but found the
images too small, and it took too long to view full screen images.

Prior to conversion from Raw, I like to sort through my pics to
determine which can be deleted. Viewing them at full, or at least
1/2 screen size was ideal to check for detail that I may or may not
want.

Is there software out there that allows me to quickly sort through
the images at a larger resolution. (I was shooting RAW only - do I
need to shoot Raw + Jpeg to allow this)?

Keith

Click to expand...

--
Equipment - Who cares? Get the shot!
http://www.zooreviews.org

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As has been pointed out there are a few ways to achieve faster viewing..
--Shoot RAW+JPG
--Make Viewing Images in YP or run slideshow in BB

There is a feature in YarcPlus that may have been overlooked. It will save time with the Make Viewing images process because you can delete the bad shots first.

This is to set YarcPlus for Low Res viewing. This would normally bring up the small 288x192 embedded image in the 1D TIF. But if you set YarcPlus to Fit-to-Window With Stretch, the 288x192 will fill the screen and you will have a full screen image that rips in speed. Instant fast previewing. The downside is that the image will be pixelated, but if you are just trying to delete based on content (and not sharpness or quakiity) this may be good enough. They when the Make the Viewing JPEGs for serious viewing you will save the time of converting the duds. It obviously depends on the dud to good ratio and what you deletion criteria is, but it may work.

I was skeptical at first when we considered to include this feature, but I have found it to be useful whe I choose not to shoot RAW+JPEG.

I just wante to make people aware of the feature as it may have been overlooked. It may not work for everyone, but it can really come in handy at times for a quick scan through the session.
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Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com