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Since everyone is so hyped up about the still unavailable F717, I think it's only fair to compare it to the upcoming Olympus DSLR.

The new Olympus is a new SLR camera designed around a 4/3" sensor (that's four times the area of the 2/3" sensor is the F717), with interchangeable lenses.

Unlike current DSLRs where are designed around 35mm lenses, Olympus has a whole new system designed around the smaller sized sensor.

I think this will blow away everything out there, including the F717 and the Canon D60.

http://www.photoreporter.com/2002/08-15/features/the_way_it_is.html
 
I will not buy it. I have the sears 2years MRA. If anything happens to my F-707 I would be covered with the new and updated F-717. alll my accessories and investement iin the F-707 would be carried over. Thank you Sony!

BTW, the Olympus would not be at 999 MSRP! maye $2k!
Capital Man said:
Since everyone is so hyped up about the still unavailable F717, I
think it's only fair to compare it to the upcoming Olympus DSLR.

The new Olympus is a new SLR camera designed around a 4/3" sensor
(that's four times the area of the 2/3" sensor is the F717), with
interchangeable lenses.

Unlike current DSLRs where are designed around 35mm lenses, Olympus
has a whole new system designed around the smaller sized sensor.

I think this will blow away everything out there, including the
F717 and the Canon D60.

http://www.photoreporter.com/2002/08-15/features/the_way_it_is.html
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So far the 717 is my pick. Even without saturation control in camera.

But if the Olydak materializes ,receives decent reviews, and is reasonably priced ,the 717 will be soon forgotten.?
John
Capital Man said:
Since everyone is so hyped up about the still unavailable F717, I
think it's only fair to compare it to the upcoming Olympus DSLR.

The new Olympus is a new SLR camera designed around a 4/3" sensor
(that's four times the area of the 2/3" sensor is the F717), with
interchangeable lenses.

Unlike current DSLRs where are designed around 35mm lenses, Olympus
has a whole new system designed around the smaller sized sensor.

I think this will blow away everything out there, including the
F717 and the Canon D60.

http://www.photoreporter.com/2002/08-15/features/the_way_it_is.html
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And I was seriously looking at a D60 along with the F2.8 70-200 Canon AF w/Image Stabilization lens. (lens is about 4 lbs and costs $1700) Yeah might as well wait. My 707 w/the F2-2.4 38-190 aint too shabby. :)
Capital Man said:
Nashua_Hawk said:
BTW, the Olympus would not be at 999 MSRP! maye $2k!
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No, the Olympus will cost more than $999. But it seems like it
will be less than $2K, and the price will include a free lens. A
better deal than the current crop of DSLRs.
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Capital Man said:
The new Olympus is a new SLR camera designed around a 4/3" sensor
(that's four times the area of the 2/3" sensor is the F717), with
interchangeable lenses.
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Interesting article. I believe Olympus has been known to do make-overs dating back into their company history. I would like to see how they do with this D-SLR and the digital designed lenses.

Contax tried to tell people the same story with their Contax D and the 645 lenses line, but people didnt buy into the logic that digital cameras needs special digital lenses. Maybe Olympus (Kodak is with them on this I believe) will have enough force behind them to change this kind of thinking.
Capital Man said:
Unlike current DSLRs where are designed around 35mm lenses, Olympus
has a whole new system designed around the smaller sized sensor.
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That is because many people still do not believe digital sensors needs newly designed digital lenses, espeically those that currently owns a Canon or Nikon D-SLR.

Now, I have alway wondered why D-SLR is only at APS size, and not 36x24mm size with all these 35mm lenses around.

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F707 w/ Nikon 5T/6T
http://www.reefkeepers.org/gallery/f707
http://www.reeftec.com/gallery
 
Are there any details floating around on the Oly D-Slr?
Zaxdad
Jimmy Chen said:
Jimmy Chen said:
The new Olympus is a new SLR camera designed around a 4/3" sensor
(that's four times the area of the 2/3" sensor is the F717), with
interchangeable lenses.
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Interesting article. I believe Olympus has been known to do
make-overs dating back into their company history. I would like to
see how they do with this D-SLR and the digital designed lenses.

Contax tried to tell people the same story with their Contax D and
the 645 lenses line, but people didnt buy into the logic that
digital cameras needs special digital lenses. Maybe Olympus (Kodak
is with them on this I believe) will have enough force behind them
to change this kind of thinking.
Jimmy Chen said:
Unlike current DSLRs where are designed around 35mm lenses, Olympus
has a whole new system designed around the smaller sized sensor.
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That is because many people still do not believe digital sensors
needs newly designed digital lenses, espeically those that
currently owns a Canon or Nikon D-SLR.

Now, I have alway wondered why D-SLR is only at APS size, and not
36x24mm size with all these 35mm lenses around.

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jc
F707 w/ Nikon 5T/6T
http://www.reefkeepers.org/gallery/f707
http://www.reeftec.com/gallery
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Jimmy Chen said:
Now, I have alway wondered why D-SLR is only at APS size, and not
36x24mm size with all these 35mm lenses around.
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There is a rumor that Canon will unveil a new full frame DSLR with a sensor the size of 35mm film. I think 9 megapixels. If this is true, it could be the end of 35mm film!

The new smaller sized Olympus DSLR sounds like it will cost a lot less than the new Canon full frame. But the latter will appeal to photographers who own a lot of Canon lenses. And those who want the ultimate in digital image quality.
 
I'd certainly give it a look.

I do think that digital slr body/lens systems will be the norm for mid/upper digital photography. Same as 35mm systems are today. Digital point and shoot will, of course, be everywhere. (My daughter has a 'Barbie' digital for god's sake!)

The interesting question is the future of 35mm film. My crystal ball says: within 5 years, new sales of 35mm slr systems will be approaching zero. Digital systems will be king. Existing 35mm equipment will continue to be used because of the money invested, but new sales? No.

Film will still be used for the bigger format systems. In 10-15 years, they will be gone as well.
 
Fair how? hahahah...

Olympus hasn't made an announcement, and we don't even have any meaty rumors to sharpen our teeth upon. :-))

All Oly has said is: "just you guys wait. Boy oh boy are we gonna have some news. It's gonna be big, so don't buy anything else yet. It's gonna be big, I'm tellin' ya."

Hahahahahahahahah

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Ulysses
 
Capital Man said:
There is a rumor that Canon will unveil a new full frame DSLR with
a sensor the size of 35mm film. I think 9 megapixels. If this is
true, it could be the end of 35mm film!
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That depends upon the sensor, I would think.

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Ulysses
 
photodog said:
I do think that digital slr body/lens systems will be the norm for
mid/upper digital photography. Same as 35mm systems are today.
Digital point and shoot will, of course, be everywhere. (My
daughter has a 'Barbie' digital for god's sake!)
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It's possible that EVFs will be an accepted alternative to SLR. The advantage of EVF is that there is no reflex mirror, allowing the design of lenses that get closer to the sensor. This is an advantage for wide angle and normal lenses, and but not an issue with telephoto lenses.

In the 35mm film world, it is acknolwedged that high end non-SLR equipment provides the ultimate in sharpness. Leica and Contax G are examples.
Steve Deutsch said:
The interesting question is the future of 35mm film. My crystal
ball says: within 5 years, new sales of 35mm slr systems will be
approaching zero. Digital systems will be king. Existing 35mm
equipment will continue to be used because of the money invested,
but new sales? No.
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My crystal ball is fuzzy.

A full frame 9 megapixel camera based on the 35mm sized format may surpass the qualiy of 35mm film.

In 5 years, 35mm film will most certainly still be being used in large amounts. But you may be right about the death of 35mm by professionals and serious amateurs. 9 megapixel full frame cameras will sway most of the sophisticated film photographers.
 
Capital Man said:
Since everyone is so hyped up about the still unavailable F717, I
think it's only fair to compare it to the upcoming Olympus DSLR.
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how on earth can one reasonably compare a prosumer camera with a DSLR?

apples compare with apples
oranges with oranges

comparing things on the basis that there's some new announcement excitement around is just nonsensical

why not try comapring a lemon with an elephant? (aren't they both yellow or something?)
 
Member said:
Member said:
There is a rumor that Canon will unveil a new full frame DSLR with
a sensor the size of 35mm film. I think 9 megapixels. If this is
true, it could be the end of 35mm film!
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That depends upon the sensor, I would think.
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Its 12mp ... But the begging question I will ask here is what Contax and now it seems Oly and Kodka are acknowledging, is that existing 35mm lenses will not work the same way with full frame sensors ... So what will Canon do with this full frame 12mp sensor when it comes to the lenses?

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jc
F707 w/ Nikon 5T/6T
http://www.reefkeepers.org/gallery/f707
http://www.reeftec.com/gallery
 
I meant that the 717 would be soon forgotten by "me" if the OLDAK yada yada yada,
Jimmy Chen said:
Jimmy Chen said:
But if the Olydak materializes ,receives decent reviews, and is
reasonably priced ,the 717 will be soon forgotten.?
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I seriously doubt it. The F707 is still a kickass camera, and the
existance of D60 and D100 didnt change that fact. It will be the
same for the F717. It all depends on which camera and budget fits
your needs and requirement.

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jc
F707 w/ Nikon 5T/6T
http://www.reefkeepers.org/gallery/f707
http://www.reeftec.com/gallery
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kiwi said:
how on earth can one reasonably compare a prosumer camera with a DSLR?
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There's nothing unreasonable about comparing a digital camera with a digital camera.

At $1000, the F717 is expensive prosumer. The new Olympus will be the least expensive DSLR. It is natural to compare.
 
Capital Man said:
Since everyone is so hyped up about the still unavailable F717, I
think it's only fair to compare it to the upcoming Olympus DSLR.

The new Olympus is a new SLR camera designed around a 4/3" sensor
(that's four times the area of the 2/3" sensor is the F717), with
interchangeable lenses.

Unlike current DSLRs where are designed around 35mm lenses, Olympus
has a whole new system designed around the smaller sized sensor.
I think this will blow away everything out there, including the
F717 and the Canon D60.
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It's not really upcoming - to the best of my knowlegde Olympus promised to show something at Photokina. It might be DSLR. Or it might be not. F717 on the other hand is quite palpable - Phil has one right now.

The article says that the body is going to be in the $2K range. The same as D60 and D100 and it's larger 4/3" sensor means larger, more expensive optics. I bet you a quarter - even if it turns out to be a success Nikon and Canon will come out with there own systems and start yet another standard war.

Finally, there was a lot of things that were suposed to blow the competition away, Coolpix 5000 was really supposed to blow away G2. But you know what I think is going to blow a lot of cameras away - that HP850 thing - it packs a lot megapixels, it has hee-uge zoom, it is gonna 400 bucks cheaper than 5700 and it is gonna be everywhere, Best Buy, OfficeMax - you name the place, and it's not gonna matter that's it is a POS.
 
I think you're mistaken in excluding DSLR from the prosumer category.
The Prosumer definition would now include at least two DSLR's:
Canon D60/30
Nikon D100

MikeD
kiwi said:
Capital Man said:
Since everyone is so hyped up about the still unavailable F717, I
think it's only fair to compare it to the upcoming Olympus DSLR.
Click to expand...
how on earth can one reasonably compare a prosumer camera with a DSLR?

apples compare with apples
oranges with oranges

comparing things on the basis that there's some new announcement
excitement around is just nonsensical

why not try comapring a lemon with an elephant? (aren't they both
yellow or something?)
Click to expand...
 
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