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Awesome. Appreciate the comparison. 5d2 pulls out more detail (as it should). But the 7D is awfully close IMO. I'm looking forward to my 7D.
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Canon 40D, Pro1
 
The 5D II seems to have a touch more detail, less smearing, but good grief the 7D is looking pretty good. I would rather have the AF and other improvements in the 7D than the detail in the 5D II when viewed at 100%. I wonder what a print would look like?
 
Great comparison. The 7D looks very good. there is a significant difference here, but it is 1000 dollars US less than the 5DmkII. I would like to see the same comparison with a 50D. Thats were you would really see how good it is.

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Tom

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Thanks for posting these. They will be even more helpful if you can fill in a few answers.

Were these pictures resampled?
Shot RAW or JPEG?
Any Noise processing in camera or pp?
Other pp?
Which lens?
other?

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JerryG

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Thanks for posting this. It looks like either they are slightly focused differently and/or different dof. Which lens did you use for the 7d/5d? The text behind the subject "Synch.." looks to be in better focus with the 7d (more likely because it has a wider dof). However, in the crops, the 5d looks to be in better focus (more likely just better resolution). The colors are different as well. Can you tell me which looks more accurate to you? Thanks. Enjoy.
 
Looks amazingly good for a crop camera.

Imagine what the performance would be like when Canon put the 7D technology in a FF sensor camera. That's when I buy a new camera.
 
Thanks for the comparison. Looks like you need to tweak the white balance on the 5D2, but that's not a significant issue.

The 7 is looking good though the 5D2 pulls away as you raise the ISO in terms of detail and the quantity of noise.

I'm looking forward to seeing more samples and comparisons as the camera is distributed to more and more users. I am also looking forward to seeing how much latitude the 7D has for pulling up under-exposed images in post-processing.

thanks again!

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Tom
 
Hi,

To my "untrained" eye, the 5D looks a bit oversaturated - especially if the letters are supposed to be white. ;-)

I can't wait to get my 7D.

Pam
 
Comparing FF and crop sensor at same ISO is misleading. Comparison is more helpful if done for same equivalent images, meaning the image for both sensor have same Aov, Dof, exposure time, same subject shot at same position, because the image will look same when printed or observed on the same size. To satisfy those condition, focal length on CS is 1.6 times shorter, aperture number on CS is also 1.6 times smaller, ISO should be set to have a proper exposure(naturally 1.6^2 times lower on CS sensor). In theory, at low light condition where even on CS sensor there is no over exposure, the noise level on FF or CS will exactly the same. So a more fair comparison is to compare ISO 2 times higher on FF than on CS to truly evaluate real world performance.

It is clear in your sample photo the image shot with 7D has more Dof.
 
Ha ~ let's concentrate on comparing the noise level ~

Both 7D and 5DII photos are RAW -> JPEG

so, you can see that their noise level is quite close to each other at the same ISO
 
So a more fair comparison is to compare ISO 2 times higher on FF than on CS to truly evaluate real world performance.

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I can't see that the above statement is right

Trevor
 
JerryG1 said:
Thanks for posting these. They will be even more helpful if you can fill in a few answers.

Were these pictures resampled?
Shot RAW or JPEG?
Any Noise processing in camera or pp?
Other pp?
Which lens?
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Answers to those questions + what aperture on both pictures? What shutter speed? Was MLU used? Tripod?

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JerryG1 said:
talico said:
... I would like to see the same comparison with a 50D. Thats were you would really see how good it is.
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I'd like to see it against a 40D, which IMHO is a tad better than the 50D noise wise on a per-pixel basis.
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I agree on this one, too. To my eyes, the 40D definitely has better noise performance than 50D. I pit the 7D against the 40D and 30D (and even 450D) when I do noise / image quality comparisons, rather than the 50D.

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MomEngineer said:
Hi,

To my "untrained" eye, the 5D looks a bit oversaturated - especially if the letters are supposed to be white. ;-)
Pam
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This verifies about what people who tested the pre cameras were saying that the reds are better controlled and the white balance seems to be better.
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Michael Kaplan
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I agree... you do not change the ISO on one camera higher than the other because of crop of FF. You either change the lens focal length so that the 2 are the same size or down sample the larger one to match the smaller one. ISO has nothing to do with crop or FF. The whole idea of the comparison is to know how the 2 vary at the same ISO and in real world shooting you never have to adjust the ISO differently because one is a crop camera and the other FF.
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Michael Kaplan
http://www.pbase.com/mkaplan
See my profile for equipment list
 
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