Here we go : F70EXR Vs DSC-WX1

Guys,

please have a look at these and pixel peep compare as much as you want

dcresource.com/reviews/fuji/finepix_f70exr-review/gallery
dcresource.com/reviews/sony/dsc_wx1-review/gallery

dont forget to add the triple w's

I don't know about you but after comparing the low iso (daylight) pics from both cameras and the high iso (low light) pics, I'm definitely going to buy the sony wx1.

if you pixel peep you can see that the fuji has lots of PF and strange artifacts, whereas the Sony is free from those problems, while the sharpness and the noise are about the same. Of course in low light (high iso), the Sony wins definitely in the way of lower noise.

Having said that... considering the sony has better high iso (maybe better than even F31FD), high res video, sweep panorama and smaller body design, as well as better Image stabilizer.... i'm placing the order for the sony....

After days of comparing, i'm glad i haven't placed the order for the Fuji.

... or use the real url:

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/fuji/finepix_f70exr-review/gallery
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/sony/dsc_wx1-review/gallery

The Sony WX1 and its new Exmor sensor with 24mm F2.4 G-lens is easily the best $350 pocket camera in the world.

Thanks for the links!

I see blown-out highlights and busloads of mush.

If this is the future, I'd rather stick to the past ... ;-)

ErwinWong said:

please have a look at these and pixel peep compare as much as you want

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Why? They are all low ISO images ...

ErwinWong said:

I don't know about you but after comparing the low iso (daylight) pics from both cameras and the high iso (low light) pics, I'm definitely going to buy the sony wx1.

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Did you compare at 270mm?

ErwinWong said:

if you pixel peep you can see that the fuji has lots of PF and strange artifacts, whereas the Sony is free from those problems, while the sharpness and the noise are about the same. Of course in low light (high iso), the Sony wins definitely in the way of lower noise.

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I saw little CA at display sizes (surprising considering how hot these images are in the glaring sunlight) and the Sony's indoor images are darker ... easy to conceal noise if you do that ...

ErwinWong said:

Having said that... considering the sony has better high iso (maybe better than even F31FD),

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I like the Sony's high ISO ... but we'll have to see how good it is at low contrast detail retention. I.e. shooting people indoors ... they did not show anything above 400 ISO from what I could tell ... and no people.

ErwinWong said:

high res video, sweep panorama and smaller body design, as well as better Image stabilizer.... i'm placing the order for the sony....

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I really like 270mm ... use it all the time. I also think the high DR modes are quite remarkable ... SOny seems to burn highlights pretty easily, which is certainly no surprise on a 1/2.4" sensor ...

ErwinWong said:

After days of comparing, i'm glad i haven't placed the order for the Fuji.

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And after weeks of shooting well over a thousand images in every kind of light ... I am glad I did.

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Quite a Statement. Even Against Canon S90? ( Although not $350 )

Sarajean said:

The Sony WX1 and its new Exmor sensor with 24mm F2.4 G-lens is easily the best $350 pocket camera in the world.

Thanks for the links!

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Sarajean said:

The Sony WX1 and its new Exmor sensor with 24mm F2.4 G-lens is easily the best $350 pocket camera in the world.

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Gimme a break ... compare everything it can do against what most people shoot ... you'll find it is about the middle of the pack with some nice high ISO tricks ...

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ErwinWong said:

Guys,

Of course in low light (high iso), the Sony wins definitely in the way of lower noise.

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I wouldn´t say so, the church-shot looks much worse with the sony, you see quite a bit of chroma noise even at normal viewing sizes, while there is virtually no noise to see on the F70 when downsized to display size.

But I still can´t understand what Fuji did with the metering, there are quite a lot scenes where the cam overexposures when it´s simply not necessary.

That´s even harder to understand when you know how good the F200 works in such situations.

Feast your eyes on these photos (tons of low iso as well as very high iso pics).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27882652@N02/page1/
Amazing stuff what the Exmor sensor can do in low light....
Bye bye Fuji bye bye Canon.....

Believe me Kim, i wanted to believe that the Fuji is better... in fact i was going to buy one ..... i used to think that f70exr is better.... but after seeing the sample at flickr site above, i just could say anything but be very impressed by the sony.....

I do believe though that the Fuji is still better than the canon s90. Anyways you can always sell your fuji and get the sony.....

ErwinWong said:

Feast your eyes on these photos (tons of low iso as well as very high iso pics).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27882652@N02/page1/
Amazing stuff what the Exmor sensor can do in low light....
Bye bye Fuji bye bye Canon.....

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I already did ... to quote Shania Twain ... "That don't impress me much..."

You are obviously over the moon for the Sony ... have fun with that ... enjoy the reach ... oh, wait ....

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Believe me Kim, i wanted to believe that the Fuji is better... in fact i was going to buy one myself ..... i used to think that f70exr was better.... but after seeing the sample at flickr site above, i just could say anything but be very impressed by the sony.....

Especially after looking at your pics posted here



and here



Boy oh boy aren't those pictures terrible looking or what... if that is not terrible, i don't know what is... And to think that one of them was taken in broad daylight.... oh my.....

I do believe though that the Fuji is still better than the canon s90. But in the worst case, you can always sell your fuji and get the sony.....No big deal Kim....

what really confuses me are pics like this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27882652@N02/3938995534/sizes/o/

it states "base iso"... i agree the weather is not nice, but when people are complaining about Fuji water colors at high iso, how could this oil painting at base iso be any better??

and the dull colors... at least the fuji colors often make pictures look good, no matter if they're a bit noisy

... After going through several of the images, and comparing what they have posted for F70, F200 and WX 1, I am pleased I bought the F200.

I was hoping the WX 1 WA (24 mm) would be usable, but it looks awfully mushy. WB seems way off also.

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ErwinWong said:

Believe me Kim, i wanted to believe that the Fuji is better... in fact i was going to buy one myself ..... i used to think that f70exr was better.... but after seeing the sample at flickr site above, i just could say anything but be very impressed by the sony.....

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I can tell ... but you are starting to sound like an infomercial for Sony ... take a close look at everything it can do and you will find it is a good middle of the road cam with great video. I badly wanted it to be what it seems, but it is not.

ErwinWong said:

Especially after looking at your pics posted here



and here



Boy oh boy aren't those pictures terrible looking or what... if that is not terrible, i don't know what is...

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Your pathetic posturing to start with.

ErwinWong said:

And to think that one of them was taken in broad daylight.... oh my.....

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Now I know you are a shill or a troll ... 1600 ISO at 1/75s at f3.3 ... that's about equivalent to a lit room .... this was shot in late evening after sunset and I pulled up the exposure quite dramatically ...

Also, if you are seeing a lot of noise then get your monitor fixed. Your gamma is probably way off ... exactly what I would expect from someone with your analytical powers ...

ErwinWong said:

I do believe though that the Fuji is still better than the canon s90. But in the worst case, you can always sell your fuji and get the sony.....No big deal Kim....

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Your ridiculous suggestion is noted ...

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ErwinWong said:

Feast your eyes on these photos (tons of low iso as well as very high iso pics).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27882652@N02/page1/
Amazing stuff what the Exmor sensor can do in low light....

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I have seen some quite impressive high-ISO-shots and also some that are not so good, making me believe the good ones are done with image combining.

The ISO400 shot in the dcreview-gallery is quite terrible, and it´s just 400

ErwinWong said:

Bye bye Fuji bye bye Canon.....

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I haven´t seen enough to make a final conclusion, but from what I have seen Canon is light-years better than Sony in high ISO (and maybe even better than Fuji)

Learn your DNS or test your links before you pipe up that "www" needs to be prepended to the origin name dcresource.com.

"www" is CNAME'd to the origin. See the last line of the nslookup below where it says Aliases.

So either will work, but it did give me pause re your thought process.

Heck, you didn't even try to paste the link you provided to see if it would work. You must do a lot of extra typing with all those "www." characters.

ErwinWong said:

dcresource.com.

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Non-authoritative answer:
Name: dcresource.com
Address: 209.68.52.127

ErwinWong said:

http://www.dcresource.com .

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Buy the Sony. (I've had the Mavica, DSC-P150 and H2.)

However, I see nothing that screams buy the Sony from the links you posted.

Of the cams you mentioned: WX1, F70EXR, S90, I have seen the most usable information re the F70. The S90 for me is still TBD. I'd expect an evolution, not a revolution from it. I'd expect handling and control and better ISO400 and above than previous Canon compacts. Maybe I'm missing something. The WX1 remains TBD as well (except to you).

If it wasn't already available I'd say start a "I preordered the WX1" thread. Those are terrific.

I reviewed the dcresource shots earlier this AM and could not draw your conclusions which were:

• WX1 > F70EXR
• WX1 > S90

Hi Kim

I might have missed it, where did you post a directed comparson between F70 and F31 and ISO 800 and ISO 1600?

I am looking to upgrade my F31 to a camera that has IS and 28mm, but I do not want to give up the its high ISO capabilities

arguros

I wouldn't buy this camera because the TX1 looks better.

arguros said:

I might have missed it, where did you post a directed comparson between F70 and F31 and ISO 800 and ISO 1600?

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I didn't ... I never owned the F31. I posted some stuff against the F11 ... at least I think I did.

arguros said:

I am looking to upgrade my F31 to a camera that has IS and 28mm, but I do not want to give up the its high ISO capabilities

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Well, the F70 is different, but I find the high ISO quite pleasant to shoot. I've posted many 1600 ISO images and a few at 3200 ISO ...

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Clarify--vs the Sony WX1. The Fuji looks interesting.