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Ok, I upgraded my s800 to the s9000 because I needed the speed and big print size. Instead of 10 sheets an hour, I can now do 20 sheets.

I am using a CIS from WeINK and Red River Paper UltraPro Gloss.

I printed about 40 sheets and there still appeared to be BANDING. I thought I had to break-in the printhead or something.

I then tried 4x6 Photo Paper Pro. NO BANDING!!! WTF? I thought that my printhead had warmed up. I tried the UltraPro Gloss using the GPP setting. It still BANDED. I tried it again using the PPP setting. NO BANDING!!!

That's pretty fr~ckin' evil of Canon to put spaces--BAND-- in non-Photo Paper Pro paper.

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Mr. Stacey
F707, s85, s75

Olympus 340, Nikon 800, Kyocera S3, Canon S200
 
Make double sure some of your nozzles are not clogged up by running a test. I have printed on many different photo papers and the dye based inks for Canon usually has a green tint or pools on the paper, but never any banding. My banding started after the printhead became clogged. Getting a new one sometime next week. Thank goodness the printhead is replacable. I saw a lot of Epsons in the repair shop and I was told the printhead is part of the circuitry and a major replacement and I think they also have to be programmed after installation.
Mr. Stacey said:
Ok, I upgraded my s800 to the s9000 because I needed the speed and
big print size. Instead of 10 sheets an hour, I can now do 20
sheets.

I am using a CIS from WeINK and Red River Paper UltraPro Gloss.

I printed about 40 sheets and there still appeared to be BANDING.
I thought I had to break-in the printhead or something.

I then tried 4x6 Photo Paper Pro. NO BANDING!!! WTF? I thought
that my printhead had warmed up. I tried the UltraPro Gloss using
the GPP setting. It still BANDED. I tried it again using the PPP
setting. NO BANDING!!!

That's pretty fr~ckin' evil of Canon to put spaces--BAND-- in
non-Photo Paper Pro paper.

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Mr. Stacey
F707, s85, s75

Olympus 340, Nikon 800, Kyocera S3, Canon S200
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David Kline said:
I use all different kinds of paper and get no banding at all.
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I agree w Mr Stacey (and I think the grassy knoll is pretty!) regarding non-Canon Papers and Banding. I have tried MANY other papers in my S820, and there have only been a few that work well, with no banding. And they all took quite a bit of color correction and icc profile adhustments.

My next printer will be an Epson for this reason, and the fact that they are finally moving to separate ink tanks.

GJ
David Kline said:
Are you saying that you think Canon deliberately screwed up the
print quality you get from non-Canon papers?

You don't happen to believe in the grassy knoll, do you?
David Kline said:
Mr. Stacey said:
That's pretty fr~ckin' evil of Canon to put spaces--BAND-- in
non-Photo Paper Pro paper.
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Of course your going to get different results with different paper options, why else would any printer manufacturer include them? Most paper options in the driver are for different Canon papers, which makes sense since I don't expect Canon to test their printers with paper from other manufacturers (however, I do expect Canon to make their printers work well with their own paper). FYI, I get banding when using the PPP paper type with Epson premium glossy, however, when I use the photo paper plus glossy paper type, Epson premium glossy is fine. I think you're upset over nothing, Canon does not intentionally put "bands" in other paper types (espeicially because they sell paper for these other paper types), it's simply the printer making neccessary adjustments for the differences in different paper.
Mr. Stacey said:
Ok, I upgraded my s800 to the s9000 because I needed the speed and
big print size. Instead of 10 sheets an hour, I can now do 20
sheets.

I am using a CIS from WeINK and Red River Paper UltraPro Gloss.

I printed about 40 sheets and there still appeared to be BANDING.
I thought I had to break-in the printhead or something.

I then tried 4x6 Photo Paper Pro. NO BANDING!!! WTF? I thought
that my printhead had warmed up. I tried the UltraPro Gloss using
the GPP setting. It still BANDED. I tried it again using the PPP
setting. NO BANDING!!!

That's pretty fr~ckin' evil of Canon to put spaces--BAND-- in
non-Photo Paper Pro paper.

--
Mr. Stacey
F707, s85, s75

Olympus 340, Nikon 800, Kyocera S3, Canon S200
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dgrogers

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Mr Stacey

Are you saying that printing on PPP using PPP in the driver you get no banding, and that using the same settings but DIFFERENT PAPER you do get banding.

If so, the only thing different is the paper, and it doesn't work as well - this is a paper (+ - ink) compatibility problem not a problem with your printer.

It's hardly as if the printer is sentient and can detect non-Canon branded paper and print differently on it on purpose.

Maybe I've misunderstood your comments.

It's certainly annoying when certain papers work worse than more expensive own brand ones, but this happens with most printers whoever makes them.

It sounds as though you were getting better results with the 3rd party paper on the S800 - it could be a speed related issue. I never got good prints on Kodak papers with Canon or Epson printers, with lots of coalescence of ink - I never got prints I was delighted with but certainly slowing the Epson down and using different settings gave improvements. Perhaps banding is partly caused by the printer printing too quickly on paper which needs a bit more time to dry between passes of the print head.

RW
 
My Canon s800 DOES NOT BAND when using the GPP setting on RR UPG.

My Canon s9000 bands when using GPP setting on RR UPG.

Both the printers are using the 1.52 drivers.

Why did they make the s9000 band when using the same setting, just different printers?

I assume that Canon deliberately made it harder for you to use non-Canon paper.

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Mr. Stacey
F707, s85, s75

Olympus 340, Nikon 800, Kyocera S3, Canon S200
 
I have been using an HP 932c for ages. I purchased a Canon s800 about 9 months ago, initially liked it (when I was using Canon paper), and then quickly got rid of it becaue of the results with other paper (some, very high quality). The HP 932c--though slow--produces consistent results regardless of the paper. Moreover, one can purchase the jumbo color ink cartridge (expensive, but worth it in the long run) and print, print, print.
 
Run a nozzle check, if there are any missing lines or mixed colors, your printhead will have to be replaced.
 
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