JoePhoto
Veteran Member
You would have to wait about 2 MONTHS. A bank will "clear" a check in a few days, yet it can STILL COME BACK up to 6-8 weeks later.Yes, I know it is a scam.But I am not sure I misunderstood Michael J.
I was mostly suggesting ways for any future sales - be cause she didn't seem to have anything set up to sell her photos.
Having them send her a certified check does not give them any information about her than is already in a phone book. What it would really do is get them to go away, because they are not about to send anybody any money or any personal information about themselves.He was suggesting a certified check, and sending an invoice.
What's not secure? You deposit the check, wait for it to clear, e-mail the image.Certified Checks used to be secure, but obviously not any more.
A friend of mine deposited a "Dow Chemical Co." check, it cleared, he spent the money.
The FBI showed up 2 months later and arrested him. They gave him 3 days to "replace" every penny or he was going away for a couple of years.
Not if they so-far only have your e-mail addy. Some pro's only maintain a PO Box on their public available web-site.A name and address? That info is easy to find.And I am concerned that sending an invoice simply gives the scammer more info than they already had.
In my case, and x-employee (that wanted to be a "partner" and I refused) simply went downtown and got a duplicate Business License and DBA in the SAME NAME as my company. (yes, anyone CAN do that, you have to get a Court Order to get it reversed).If you are that scared, then don't do anything.I don't know what the answer is for deals that we are not "sure" of, (but seem legit).
I can only think of an online-invoice, (since he does indeed already have your email), and PayPal, (even though I have heard it is not very reliable in getting refunds, AND (fake) PayPal is one of the BIGGEST phishing titles).
But I would not "mail" an invoice with your real address on it. Maybe a PO Box.
I can see where you would have reservations, after what you went through.I have been a victim of Identity Theft (20 years ago, before it was even known as a "crime") that cost me over a $million$. So I don't now even use my "correct" name on the internet, I have 60 domain names, they are not purchased/listed under my "real" name. My PayPal account is also not my real name, it is my "internet" name.
I am sorry, but I have been a victim, they even transferred my mail when they knew I had over a $100,000 in accounts payable coming in. It took me over a year of exchanges with a (USPS) Judge in Washington DC to get it transferred back. But much, much too late to recover the accounts-payable checks that I permanently lost.
He then contacted my BANK, and diverted my MAIL with a Change-of-Address card, (which ANYONE can also very EASILY do). He told both of them that he was the new "owner" of the business.
I notified the POLICE of what he was doing; and they "warned" him that he was going to JAIL if he "took" anything.
That did NOT stop him.
He then conned a LOCKSMITH to allow him into my photo-lab and studio. (he told the locksmith he simply lost his "key")
When he immediately started loading EVERYTHING from my lab-studio into trailers, the LOCKSMITH CALLED POLICE.
The Police came, but even thought they had told him "you are going to jail" .... they suddenly C-H-A-N-G-E-D T-H-E-I-R M-I-N-D, and decided it was a "civil" matter because he convinced them we were "partners", (we were not).
So the police simply WATCHED him load EVERYTHING ... (business records and file-cabinets, computers, a 15 phone-bank system, cameras, lighting, backgrounds, sample photo displays and albums, even desks and chairs). He even got a box that contained 10 years of my "customers" CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS (with ALL their CC numbers on the receipts).
Believe it or not, the police even found out that he had NO DRIVERS LICENSE, and NONE of the trailers were licensed, so they again WARNED him that he "could not drive the vehicles". But the police eventually got "tired" of simply "watching" him ... and left. He immediately "left" also, with ALL my equipment and business records in his trailers.
The police refused to even take a "Theft" Police Report because they claimed it was a "civil" matter and to "handle it myself" ...
Believe me ... IF they had told me earlier to "handle it myself" ... I WOULD HAVE ... with the help of a couple of close friends ... Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson.
I even have another close friend ... called Mr. LEAD PIPE. (Did you know lead-pipes "bend" when wrapped over the top of someones head ???)
I sued the police the police, they admitted "watching" everything, BUT ... I found out they have "immunity" and could not sue them.
I won a $2 Million judgement from the guy who did it ... but he was/is long gone and I have not seen or heard from him since. (and he does not have $2 million anyway ... he works completely underground)
I got the Bank corrected pretty quickly, but the USPS was a nightmare since I had to deal with Washington DC fraud division and all my "business records" I needed to prove my point, had been stolen by the other guy.
Oh BTW, after he stole all my business records, he also turned me into IRS and State SALES TAX .... I had NO RECORDS to fight with.
I never recovered, I had a heart attack from all the stress, and never fully recovered the business. When "digital" came, I could not afford the new investments required.
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Thanks for reading .... JoePhoto
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