duartix
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I'm considering converting my E-510 for IR photographyw
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Duarte Bruno
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IR converted E-510 - How does it perform?
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bavasshokie
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I love mine here are a few expamples. I have had mine for about 6 months now. Was converted by Spencerscamera.
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Olympus E500, E510 IR, 40-150mm, 14-45mm, 35mm, 9-18mm, 14-54mm
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Olympus E500, E510 IR, 40-150mm, 14-45mm, 35mm, 9-18mm, 14-54mm
duartix
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I'm sorry, the post got truncated.
First of all those are amazing, can you share or point me to the PP workflow?
You got me salivating. How much was the conversion?
The post should contain a few questions:
If I understand correctly, the IR filter is replaced by a clear glass filter, and pictures are now taken with a IR filter in front of the lens right? The difference is that without the filter you gain about 10-11 stops of IR sensitivity.
Is the camera still capable of normal photography (without the IR filter in front of the lens)?
If so, does it under perform noise wise?
Thanks again.
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Duarte Bruno
First of all those are amazing, can you share or point me to the PP workflow?
You got me salivating. How much was the conversion?
The post should contain a few questions:
If I understand correctly, the IR filter is replaced by a clear glass filter, and pictures are now taken with a IR filter in front of the lens right? The difference is that without the filter you gain about 10-11 stops of IR sensitivity.
Is the camera still capable of normal photography (without the IR filter in front of the lens)?
If so, does it under perform noise wise?
Thanks again.
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Duarte Bruno
bavasshokie
Active member
If you have the E510 converted to IR it can only take IR photo's. If you use a filter on the lens like the Hoya R72 you can still use the camera for color. The problem with the filter is the shots are 4 seconds and there will be blurr from movement. You can get nice shots that way. When I started doing IR I used a Hoya R72 on my E500 and got great results. The E510 is just nicer because you use it the sameway as you normally do just get IR shots. The conversion was $375 plus shipping and the cost of the camera. If you goto http://spencerscamera.com/blog.aspx there is a workflow. But I would be happy to help you in anyway.
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Olympus E500, E510 IR, 40-150mm, 14-45mm, 35mm, 9-18mm, 14-54mm
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Olympus E500, E510 IR, 40-150mm, 14-45mm, 35mm, 9-18mm, 14-54mm
duartix
Senior Member
Thanks for the help.
BTW, I've seen a lot of references saying that only the RED channel is sensitive to IR and that my 10MP would become 2.5MP, but that's not what I'm observing with the Hoya. I would guesstimate around 7MP because I can see 6.5 stops of luminance info on the RED channel, 5.5 on the GREEN and 2.5 on the BLUE.
So is it BS?
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Duarte Bruno
Yes, I understand it now (been reading about it too). My assumption was wrong. Where there was a cutter now only IR gets through.
That's my setup right now. The E-510 a not just nicer, it's a blessing with it's Live-View.
Just one more question. What filter did you have installed? From your pictures it looks like a 665nm. Would it be possible for me to get the same colors of pictures #2,#3 and #4 with my Hoya R72 and some post processing?
BTW, I've seen a lot of references saying that only the RED channel is sensitive to IR and that my 10MP would become 2.5MP, but that's not what I'm observing with the Hoya. I would guesstimate around 7MP because I can see 6.5 stops of luminance info on the RED channel, 5.5 on the GREEN and 2.5 on the BLUE.
So is it BS?
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Duarte Bruno
bavasshokie
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It is BS. Yes you can get the same effect with The Hoys R72. I had the 720nm installed which is what the Hoya 72 is. Here is a shot I took with the Hoya 72 on my E500 when I started.
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Olympus E500, E510 IR, 40-150mm, 14-45mm, 35mm, 9-18mm, 14-54mm
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Olympus E500, E510 IR, 40-150mm, 14-45mm, 35mm, 9-18mm, 14-54mm
duartix
Senior Member
So I thought!
That's great, so the question now is:
How do you developed the RAWS to get those incredible blue skies while preserving the white on trees?
BTW, your profile on dpreview is broken ( http://bavass.smugmug.com/ )
Duarte Bruno
bavasshokie
Active member
What software are you using its a little different between Photoshop Elements and CS4. I have used both. Thanks for letting me know about the broken link it is fixed now!
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Olympus E500, E510 IR, 40-150mm, 14-45mm, 35mm, 9-18mm, 14-54mm
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Olympus E500, E510 IR, 40-150mm, 14-45mm, 35mm, 9-18mm, 14-54mm
Hollander
Senior Member
Duartix, I have the E420 with the 665nm filter. This filter will give you more colour.
I have CS3 and for the best results you have to shoot in RAW.
Black/White setting in camera
Red/ blue channel swap
In PP the sky is the limit
Desaturated in CS3 and moon added.
Just Google Infra Red photograghy and you'll find lots of info.
Cheers
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Rob.
To keep my brain active I'm trying to learn CS3 and Lightroom 2 , only to get more confused, because I don't read the manuals.
http://robvorderman.zenfolio.com/
I have CS3 and for the best results you have to shoot in RAW.
Black/White setting in camera
Red/ blue channel swap
In PP the sky is the limit
Desaturated in CS3 and moon added.
Just Google Infra Red photograghy and you'll find lots of info.
Cheers
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Rob.
To keep my brain active I'm trying to learn CS3 and Lightroom 2 , only to get more confused, because I don't read the manuals.
http://robvorderman.zenfolio.com/
duartix
Senior Member
I'm using Bibble but I wouldn't say no to CS4 for IR.
What is the workflow?
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Duarte Bruno
duartix
Senior Member
I don't think I'll convert my camera if these results are achievable with lens filters, but are there any 665nm lens filters? A quick check on eBay proved a failure...
Is this the Red/ blue channel swap?
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Duarte Bruno
Duarte,
I had a modified E-500 with the 720nm filter installed. I thought that I was tiring of IR and sold it. Well, my thinking was incorrect.
I recently had Spencer's modify an DMC-L1 with a 720nm filter and am extremely pleased with the set up.
I shoot 100% RAW, develop in Lightroom and export to Photoshop for channel swapping, etc.
Here are a cople of recent photos:
and more here: http://www.pbase.com/wmdt131/ir_photos
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Bill Turner
I had a modified E-500 with the 720nm filter installed. I thought that I was tiring of IR and sold it. Well, my thinking was incorrect.
I recently had Spencer's modify an DMC-L1 with a 720nm filter and am extremely pleased with the set up.
I shoot 100% RAW, develop in Lightroom and export to Photoshop for channel swapping, etc.
Here are a cople of recent photos:
and more here: http://www.pbase.com/wmdt131/ir_photos
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Bill Turner
duartix
Senior Member
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I'm getting a bit frustrated as I can't get the same kind of tones. I shoot RAW, develop the image in Bibble, export it and swap red and blue in Thumbs Plus, but I Istill end up with what looks like a monochrome image.
There must be something wrong with my workflow.
What do you do for WB?
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Duarte Bruno
duartix
Senior Member
Thanks Bill, I guess that Bibble must have an issue with Olympus WB because CWB on a neutral subject (in this case the grass) is rendering most of my pictures monochrome.
I must try LR or ACR.
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Duarte Bruno
Hollander
Senior Member
Yes it is a red/blue channel swap. The 665 filter is an internal filter, the advantage is that you can hand hold the camera and compose the picture throuhg your viewfinder.
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Rob.
To keep my brain active I'm trying to learn CS3 and Lightroom 2 , only to get more confused, because I don't read the manuals.
http://robvorderman.zenfolio.com/
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Rob.
To keep my brain active I'm trying to learn CS3 and Lightroom 2 , only to get more confused, because I don't read the manuals.
http://robvorderman.zenfolio.com/
Hollander
Senior Member
Check this out http://www.MaxMax.com
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Rob.
To keep my brain active I'm trying to learn CS3 and Lightroom 2 , only to get more confused, because I don't read the manuals.
http://robvorderman.zenfolio.com/
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Rob.
To keep my brain active I'm trying to learn CS3 and Lightroom 2 , only to get more confused, because I don't read the manuals.
http://robvorderman.zenfolio.com/
duartix
Senior Member
Thanks. I had already been there when browsing for conversions and I had found a very good guide in the PP board, but my problem is right at the start line.
Been there too. A source for filters I will consider.
In your opinion is the 630/665nm an easier option for those beautifull blue skies?
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Duarte Bruno
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