PoonCK
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No, you are wrong. I am Chinese not in USA. There is no need to be too sensitive. There are many new comers to photography in China, of course not all, with money to spend
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Except for APS-C, the 7D is what the 5D Mark II should have been.
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I'm curious to know why you would think that the Chinese would be any more naive than, say, Americans, or Britons, or Dutch, or Argentinians, or Ukrainians, etc.?
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strat666
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See his post 8 minutes prior to yours.
bronxbombers
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here is a thought, people say how can you have a 5D3 and a 3D and where is the cheap A850, etc. Maybe they dump the 5D, leave the crazy beyond 24MP market to 1Ds and make the 3D the FF 7D at 21-24MP and make a 9D as a bare bones, cheap FF, like an even more gutted 5D2?? Then again do people really want FF so much they;d take an utterly gutted, plasticky $1850 9D over a $1600 7D??
I'm far from thinking the 5D Mark II is a "mess". It's actually a really nice camera. I just feel that it should have had more of the features that the 7D has.
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Shamus1
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Can't look back. Look forward. Makes me really want to see that the 1DMkIII update has before I buy anything!
sparkling elk
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to me the only true problems of the 7D are:
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- its not that expected apsh sensor
- overboosted resolution (with the consequences we know already)
- no weather sealing
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mpgxsvcd
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Face it technology gets better and better. There will be a camera better than the 7D next year. Everyone who bought a 5D last year shouldn’t sweat it though. You still have an awesome camera that is arguably a better still camera than the 5D.
At least, they aren’t taking steps backwards with the 7D like Canon has in the past with their G series line. First, they went to 14 mega pixels, then back off but forgot to include HD video.
The 720p @ 60 FPS option on the 7D is what I am really interested in.
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At least, they aren’t taking steps backwards with the 7D like Canon has in the past with their G series line. First, they went to 14 mega pixels, then back off but forgot to include HD video.
The 720p @ 60 FPS option on the 7D is what I am really interested in.
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And it's why I have no interest in buying this camera whatsoever.
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bronxbombers
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you misread, I said the mess of the 1 series MkIII (mk3)'s not the mess of the 5d2. What with it somewhat blocking the 5D2 specs and all the whining about the AF.
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yes true
Sorry, my mistake.
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reading more details about it seems like they did add quite a bit of new stuff that i'm sure required tons of testing after the mkiii fiasco, it very well simply may not have been able to be all worked out and tuned up until nearly a year too late for the 5D2.
it does add some new stuff that it seems NO canon AF system as ever done/utilized before.
(of course maybe they coulda just tossed tried and true 1d2 into it, but they didn;t)
it does add some new stuff that it seems NO canon AF system as ever done/utilized before.
(of course maybe they coulda just tossed tried and true 1d2 into it, but they didn;t)
Yeah, I want to cry, this is a very sad day for me. I LOVE everything about 7D except sensor size
And 18 MPX APS-C, OMG they are probably not completely normal in Canon. 50Ds 15 MPX was already too much.Paul5D
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As a 5D mkI and mkII owner and everyday user i'm obviously missing something with all this 7D discussion. It's a nice camera as a beefed-up, Nikon fighting 50D for sports and birders, but it's nothing like the 5D and certainly isn't IMHO a replacement/upgrade/or what the 5D should have been it's a totally different camera for different purposes.
Yes it has better features in many areas, but none of the ones that mean anything to a 5D mkII owner.
better HD video - HUGE yawn - no use
better AF - for portraits/weddings I use one focus point and one only better AF is a waste
onboard flash - no use
cropped sensor - no use
you get the idea
to me this just looks and feels like a 60D in all but name.
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Yes it has better features in many areas, but none of the ones that mean anything to a 5D mkII owner.
better HD video - HUGE yawn - no use
better AF - for portraits/weddings I use one focus point and one only better AF is a waste
onboard flash - no use
cropped sensor - no use
you get the idea
to me this just looks and feels like a 60D in all but name.
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Ah Pek
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Every single Nikon release was a marketing ploy as well then. They have innovated nothing. VR, AF-S, Live view, CMOS, HD video, etc.
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Narcosynthesis
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Different cameras for different tasks...
If I want a camera for weddings and landscapes, I buy myself a 5dII - simpler autofocus, slower fps, larger sensor and higher resolution for ultimate picture quality and dof
If I want a camera for sports and birding, I look at the new 7d - uprated autofocus for tracking moving subjects, faster fps speeds for action, and the 1.6 sensor to give a bit of extra range to the telephotos (and unlike the 1.3 sensors, use of EF-s lenses and the 10-22mm for a true wide angle) which are normally used in birding and sports so you can use a smaller lens than you would need with a ff camera.
The 1.3 sensor size I have always seen as an odd choice - 1.6 had the start with the first digitals and use in rebels so gained the EF-s lenses to suit, and later on the ff sensor in the 1Ds and 5d made full use of the legacy EF lenses as they were intended. But keeping the 1.3 crop seemed odd after ff sensors became workable as you lose the wide angle range from a lens like the 17-40, but didn't get to use the 10-22mm either. I know that may not be the target market of the 1d, but even so it seemed an odd solution to be keeping around - having a ff 1ds and high end 1.6 1d seems to make more sense to me, however much users would complain about the smaller sensor
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If I want a camera for weddings and landscapes, I buy myself a 5dII - simpler autofocus, slower fps, larger sensor and higher resolution for ultimate picture quality and dof
If I want a camera for sports and birding, I look at the new 7d - uprated autofocus for tracking moving subjects, faster fps speeds for action, and the 1.6 sensor to give a bit of extra range to the telephotos (and unlike the 1.3 sensors, use of EF-s lenses and the 10-22mm for a true wide angle) which are normally used in birding and sports so you can use a smaller lens than you would need with a ff camera.
The 1.3 sensor size I have always seen as an odd choice - 1.6 had the start with the first digitals and use in rebels so gained the EF-s lenses to suit, and later on the ff sensor in the 1Ds and 5d made full use of the legacy EF lenses as they were intended. But keeping the 1.3 crop seemed odd after ff sensors became workable as you lose the wide angle range from a lens like the 17-40, but didn't get to use the 10-22mm either. I know that may not be the target market of the 1d, but even so it seemed an odd solution to be keeping around - having a ff 1ds and high end 1.6 1d seems to make more sense to me, however much users would complain about the smaller sensor
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austinphotog
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That sounds dead on.
The whiners do want a plastic ff 9D, but they won't actually buy it. Plus they are smarter than most of us, and canon;-) The 5D2 isn't going to be updated soon, they will drop the price with the competition. They couldn't make the 5D2 be better than the 1D3, could they? This camera is 2 years after the nikon 300D, and is canon's answer to that. They are ahead in the 5D2 segment on everything but price, so why would they add to add to the cost? Don't know about the 3D, I think the 1D might get lots more pixels and go full frame.
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