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Ok, I'll admit it I majorly suck in stitching the photos. I tried photoshop, autopano pro and even PTgui that everyone seems to be extatic about. Actually most of the time I like autopano better for producing better results easier.

I have to try tripod and some other lens then wide angle 11-16 next time,maybe It'll solve my crappy stitching issues.

This is new Pier in Panama city beach, FL, after old one was damaged / later demolished by hurricane Kathrina. It is very long, I was only about in the middle in this photo. I did not make it all the way because it started raining....



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I actually liked the burned look of the result but that's me. I don't think you are that far from total success.

Could you please give some more information on the photos?
Vertical or horizontal?
How many frames?

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I think the HDR effect is overdone, but otherwise it's a nice panorama. I can't tell where you stitched the shots (which is good).
 
i think you did quite well. Stitching the sea would be the stuff of nightmares and i imagine you would have spent a fair amount of time hiding the seams. You are let down by the horizon - this is an easy fix on a tripod with a panning head
 
plasticvisual said:
I think the HDR effect is overdone, but otherwise it's a nice panorama. I can't tell where you stitched the shots (which is good).
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I can see a stitch in the sea if you find the gap between the two tower blocks and follow it down below the watermark. There is a vertical stitch visible in the waves.

It's much better than some panoramas I did in the early days when I used aperture priority and left the white balance set to auto and ended up with each section of the picture being a different tint.
 
HI,

If I remember, it was about 6 or 7 vertical shots JPGs standart setting,ADL off,each bracketed 3 exposures 1EV, so I think 21 shots total. Handeld,Tokina at 11mm (probably part of my stitching issues) elbows braced on railing. Shots processed in photomatix first, then stitched in autopano and processed in CS3.Thanks for looking.
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Yes , the waves and ripples, etc. were my biggest nighmare, I just now finally figured out how to process / blend 3 different frames so there is no ghosting / double effect of the waves. I have to try tripod, I only have a reaaly crappy old metal one with no fancy head or nothing but I guess it's better then nothing...
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akjos said:
I have to try tripod and some other lens then wide angle 11-16 next time,maybe It'll solve my crappy stitching issues.
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I think maybe you need more overlap. On a scene like this, I'd go for at least 50% overlap between the frames.
 
Akjos I see a few things that could help in the future...
  1. When using any lens be aware of its capabilities and limits. Usually any lens that you use at its widest setting (in this case 11mm on your Tokina) distortion is at its best. :-) Eg. 18mm on the 18-200, 12mm on the 12-24 etc. If you need to shoot at the widest, be prepared to overlap 50% or MORE. That's what's happening here and makes stitching a bear.
  2. When you are planning your shot and you know that the bridge on the right is going to end up being the edge of your shot shoot a few frames past it and crop in post.
  3. Good news is that fixing the stitching dips along the horizon line are super easy in PS. Water is about the easiest thing to clone.
Looks like you got everything else down with exposure, WB etc as I don't see any issues from frame to frame.

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With due respect,I think your picture would look more dramatic if you show less water and show more sky or vice versa.My 2 cents
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Lexus330 said:
With due respect,I think your picture would look more dramatic if you show less water and show more sky or vice versa.My 2 cents
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You're right. It's a classic 50:50. I like the way Bryan Peterson puts it.... "Nobody likes a tie". You have to create a winner by choosing between the sky and, in this case, the sea.

Having said that, the OP indicates that the scene was intended to include a pier. That would have changed the whole composition quite dramatically but since he wimped out over a little bit of rain (just kiddin' mate, I don't let my gear get drenched either) we'll never know ;-)
 
Give it a try, I rarely shoot pano's but I really like the results so far. The picture below was stitched from 9 images into a 6627 x 4142 picture for those who like to count rivets:



Warning: DON'T click the link to the full-size version below if you're on dialup!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3372/3665659009_e2d4de545e_o.jpg

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Thanks guys. I have to go somewhere and try some things on the tripod, even without multiple exposures per shot at first. As Chris suggested again, I looked up my lenses on photozone.de and my 10-105 VR has basically 0 distortion at 24mm. Will try that.

For 50/50, yes, I know and I try to avoid it in most shots, but if any structures are included in photo like buildings, etc when shooting with wide angle lens it makes the lines run together if you aim up or lines run apart when you point down. HEnce easy fix is to aim in the middle...lol
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Just a suggestion. Would you not be better off using a lens with a more narrow angle of view? Maybe something akin to the old 50mm standard or 35mm for DX. Other than that use a more general wide angle say 12-24 and keep to around 18mm or even better an 18-55mm limited to 28mm focal length. Plenty of overlap even then and a tripod where possible carefully checked to keep the camera perfectly upright and level.

Hey, it's the journey that matters! Once you have it down to a fine art you'll be bored.
 
Dez and Vic, Thanks for suggestions. I already posted that I have to try tripod next time and something with less distortion. I'm honestly too lazy to make panorama with 35 or 50mm lens on DX. That= A LOT of photos. I'll try my 18-105vr at 24 mm next time or my tokina at 16. Both at this setting should be almost or completely distortion free.
I know Dez that my stitching sucks , hence the name of the post ...;-P
I saw Leung's guide before I'll sure bookmark it . Thanks
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akjos said:
Dez and Vic, Thanks for suggestions. I already posted that I have to try tripod next time and something with less distortion. I'm honestly too lazy to make panorama with 35 or 50mm lens on DX. That= A LOT of photos. I'll try my 18-105vr at 24 mm next time or my tokina at 16. Both at this setting should be almost or completely distortion free.
I know Dez that my stitching sucks , hence the name of the post ...;-P
I saw Leung's guide before I'll sure bookmark it . Thanks
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I didn't say tahr your stitching sucks. Besides, the software does the stitching. It's your technique in panning/overlapping and not being relatively level.

You don't need a tripod to do panos in good light. They can be done hand-held if you watch your guide lines. Not sure if you have any in your particular camera. But a tripod is needed in low light.

The tutorial by Leung should help. Good luck.
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