JMB
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I was making fun of myself for my own misspelling. But thanks for standing up for me.
D60 / EOS 630
70-200 4L
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28 2.8
50 1.8
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any lawyers out there? can they ban us?
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Larry H. Smith
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Steve Mitchell
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murphy
Senior Member
When you see anything in the message header that says "NT" it means there's nothing here.
So why are you here?
So why are you here?
Richard Smith41318
Leading Member
The short answer is that they can do whatever they want.
I got busted at a concert last year with my 24-85 on a D30.
They said "no detachable lens cameras without a press pass, period".
Trying to engage them in an intelligent discussion about how a lens with
less than 100mm, used from the bleachers, could not possibly be used to
take a picture that would infringe on anyone's rights is, to put it politely,
not very productive.
I am hoping that in few years when the P&S cameras can do 6MP, this
whole problem will just go away. The trick is to not "look pro" and you
wont get busted.
I got busted at a concert last year with my 24-85 on a D30.
They said "no detachable lens cameras without a press pass, period".
Trying to engage them in an intelligent discussion about how a lens with
less than 100mm, used from the bleachers, could not possibly be used to
take a picture that would infringe on anyone's rights is, to put it politely,
not very productive.
I am hoping that in few years when the P&S cameras can do 6MP, this
whole problem will just go away. The trick is to not "look pro" and you
wont get busted.
Perhaps we should buy stickers that say Kodak and put them over the canon name!
Dick Ginkowski
Senior Member
Putting on legal beagle hat: Yes, they can.
Putting on photographer's Tilley hat: But you might want to talk to the team's director of operations to see exactly what their policy is and how you can work within it.
Putting on photographer's Tilley hat: But you might want to talk to the team's director of operations to see exactly what their policy is and how you can work within it.
Kel Toookay
Senior Member
Since every sporting event or concert above high school (and some of them) is pretty much bought and paid for by huge corporations, the idea that any fan/amateur photographer is going to talk his way into an event is dreaming.
Promoters and publicists control the music biz, ok to shoot during the first 3 songs, but that's it was a recent rule. Didn't the NBA make a rights grab a few years ago,claiming reproduction rights of anything shot by anybody (pros, not fans) at an NBA game?
There is another thread about the YMCA banning photographers because of kidnapping, custody fights and the witness protection program for crying out loud!
I'm sure that glad that I don't have to deal with all the petty little dictators and their turf battles.
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Mike D
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Promoters and publicists control the music biz, ok to shoot during the first 3 songs, but that's it was a recent rule. Didn't the NBA make a rights grab a few years ago,claiming reproduction rights of anything shot by anybody (pros, not fans) at an NBA game?
There is another thread about the YMCA banning photographers because of kidnapping, custody fights and the witness protection program for crying out loud!
I'm sure that glad that I don't have to deal with all the petty little dictators and their turf battles.
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Mike D
'Sometimes wrong, but never unsure'
Frank Miller
Leading Member
You're not serious are you? There is NO compeition because you can't sell your photographs without persmission, which the pros have and most like paid dearly for that right.
I get stopped almost everything I use my 100-400L at the Mariners game, I just tell them that it is for personal use. 1/2 the time they have to go ask, but always come back and say it's OK.
RZ
RZ
http://www.rzphotos.com
I get stopped almost everything I use my 100-400L at the Mariners game, I just tell them that it is for personal use. 1/2 the time they have to go ask, but always come back and say it's OK.
RZ
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RZ
http://www.rzphotos.com
Shane108011
New member
Ok. Now this is the most intersting points I seen on this forum so far. I think I am going to do some research on WestLaw and talk to a friend of mine also.
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Why are yoiu here then?
I'm here because I just click "next" to browse thru all the messages....
Ian S
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I'm here because I just click "next" to browse thru all the messages....
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Zero
Leading Member
Have you guys been to the pro stadiums lately? Aside from the corporate box seats, everyone else is crammed in. Last thing I want is to be stepping over some guy with his big bag of lenses (even if empty) while trying to cram a hotdog into my mouth, in my slightly inebriated state. I have no problem with these venues banning camera equipment.
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Zero my hero
Well, I don't know that high schools typically prohibit telephoto at sporting events. If you come across one that does, a phone call to the local school board will probably straighten things out.
And I don't mean calling around threatening to sue, I mean calling and making a reasonable inquiry. Usually you'll just find some Barney Fife character exceeded his/her authority.
I wonder why so many people think 'litigation' first, rather than picking up the phone and making a few calls. I spend about a third of my day doing just that, for clients who are too hotheaded to do it themselves. Then I send them a bill.
Anyway...
David, esq.
And I don't mean calling around threatening to sue, I mean calling and making a reasonable inquiry. Usually you'll just find some Barney Fife character exceeded his/her authority.
I wonder why so many people think 'litigation' first, rather than picking up the phone and making a few calls. I spend about a third of my day doing just that, for clients who are too hotheaded to do it themselves. Then I send them a bill.
Anyway...
David, esq.
Tim Lozinski
Leading Member
I suppose you are a lawyer. I'm not, in fact I'm English, and we have a much greater respect for the legal profession here (well I do anyway) than it seems the people Stateside do.
I reckon the point you just made about people paying you to do things they either can't, won't or can't be bothered to do is very thought provoking. Similarly to people complaining about lawyers there are plenty of people who would complain about paying a photographer for 'taking a bunch of photos and asking the earth to do it' (ie a photographer charging a fair sum for applying their training, equipment, skill and time doing something that the client is unable/unwilling to do from lack of the same facilities mentioned.
For those who are embarking on semi professional careers in photography, it is important to remember these things, particularly as you figure out 'what to charge' people.
Also, as this thread indicates, it might be as well to also figure out your potential legal costs
All the new photographic and copyright litigation is going to make a lot of lawyers very rich.That is, unless more photographers do their own common sense phone calls and avoid dragging a (surely only too willing) lawyer into a dispute that could be solved with little or no cash exchanged.
Just a though =p~
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