Major problem accessing DPReview Discussion Forums...

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...in the last few days. Anybody else experiencing difficulties?

Running IE6 (if it ain't broke...well, guess I can't say that but no snide remarks, please), which is still working elsewhere on this site and with all other Web sites.

Been having a hell of a time getting the various forums to show threads and messages. After clicking on any forum on the menu, all I get is the banner ad at the top and the rest of the page is blank.

Did I miss an announcement re the forums somewhere along the line? Seems not, 'cause I can't find any.

If IE6 users can only view and post between the hours of, say, 2:30 and 4:30 am EST, it would be nice to know.

Now that I think of it, it may be days before I'll be able to see any answers to the question. ;-)

Thanks,
mike
 
AVG Free 8.5 and I've had the feeling recently that it's slowed down all movement on our PC. Even disabled its Link Scanner, which seemed to help slightly.
Mike,

Which antivirus software are you using?
 
I think that occasionally there are lags between updates of the various Windows/Microsoft products and the security suites, which can produce a few days misery that inexplicably just ends.

Add to that interactions between those and the different advertising inserts (and the way this site gathers whatever info it does in order to be able to personalise them) and there's a host of possible reasons!

But try forcing updates of them all - the fix may be out there already?

Fingers crossed for you,
Peter
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I had AVG for awhile but it used up huge chunks of my PC's resources. Get rid of it. I now use ESET- it's great but not free.

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AVG Free 8.5 and I've had the feeling recently that it's slowed down all movement on our PC. Even disabled its Link Scanner, which seemed to help slightly.
Mike,

Which antivirus software are you using?
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My second post where I find myself agreeing with Rogrrr, must be great minds. I also use ESET and I use IE6, no problems. Only website I find cr*p is the BBC with iplayer.
MacAfee and IE8 but I have to agree with the last part of that - truly infuriating at times and continually seems to interfere with accessing all sorts of other sites, but I for one couldn't easily live a day without it!

Peter

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Something like what you explain happens with my FireFox ( latest build ) but all I do is Logout & Login & all's well again...

Checking the " Remember Me " or " Keep Me Logged In " checkbox is pretty much a waste-of-time since the site reformat...

Don't know if any of that is relevant for you but thought this a good opportunity to share my lone issue since the changes....
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I think that occasionally there are lags between updates of the various Windows/Microsoft products and the security suites, which can produce a few days misery that inexplicably just ends.
It does happen from time to time, Peter, but when it does, it usually affects a number of things. This is so isolated, it leads me to believe that something has changed in DPR's servers or software. I can access anything on any other site...I can go anywhere I want on dpreview.com, with the exception the forums for long stretches of time.

I know I'm not going to get through when I see "Error on page." That makes me think something's screwed up at DPReview. How else do you explain the fact that I can click on any of the "most active threads in the last 48 hrs," read them in their entirety, yet can't navigate elsewhere in any of those forums .

Again today, numerous attempts to access the forums proved futile but I kept trying. At 7:58 pm DST (Eastern), "Error on page," no access. At 8:02 pm, I got in with no problem. What happened at 8 pm our time to change things? Crazy! And frustrating as all get out.
Add to that interactions between those and the different advertising inserts (and the way this site gathers whatever info it does in order to be able to personalise them) and there's a host of possible reasons!
But try forcing updates of them all - the fix may be out there already?
AVG updates once a day at 2:24 p. I purposely did not do a manual update before not getting in at 7:58, then magically gaining access to the forums at 8:02. I doubt that the AV is the problem. How else do we explain being able to navigate the forums at times and not being able at others?

rogrrr said:
I had AVG for awhile but it used up huge chunks of my PC's resources. Get rid of it.
I've actually been thinking of doing just that for a while now, rog. I have a strong dislike for memory pigs, which is why we took Norton and McAfee off our two machines about 5 years ago. At that time, AVG was much smaller and faster. Recent upgrades have just gotten bigger and bigger. As mentioned, we've disabled its Link Scanner in an attempt to speed it up a bit. Besides, the threat data used by the AVs is hopelessly outdated.
Something like what you explain happens with my FireFox (latest build) but all I do is Logout & Login & all's well again...
That's interesting, Ross. I normally don't log in if I'm just going to read but probably not post. The only problem is one can't log in unless one can access the Discussion Forums page with the full list of forums or one of those forums. Am I overlooking the opportunity to do so elsewhere?

What's most frustrating? If you have a channel that's acting up on cable or one of the satcos and all the other channels are fine, you know it's not your TV set. Sure as God made little green apples, the problem is at the provider, in the distribution. With the Forums problem, I have my suspicions but can't be sure.

The next time I can't get through -- tomorrow during the day, most likely -- I'm going to try with our laptop, just to see what happens.

Thanks, guys, for trying to help. Good thing the Canadian Open is here in Oakville at Glen Abbey, 'cause that's been occupying much of our days. We'll keep working on it. :-(

mike
 
Mike

Are you able to tell how often that "Error on page" is associated with new on-page advertisements - I'd have said that those are the things here that change the most!

I sometimes get the old familiar ones - the 123 of digital photography and the like - but sometimes much more localised ones which are usually in Italian, so it's obvious that some of my details have been gathered and exploited in order to target them to me!

I can't but think that the security part of either your AV software or your browser may be either objecting to the info collection, or refusing (or else taking ages to go away, check and approve) the insertion of the ads concerned.

While they're almost certainly not "bad" sites, they're not necessarily amongst those your system is aware of - and the arrival of each of DPR's new advertising customers may trigger the problem afresh?

As for reading those "Top Discussions", could it be the case that one or two particular established advertisers have exclusive access to that function, so none of the more 'difficult' ads ever appear when you're doing so?

Peter
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I sometimes get the old familiar ones - the 123 of digital photography and the like - but sometimes much more localised ones which are usually in Italian, so it's obvious that some of my details have been gathered and exploited in order to target them to me!
Interesting, I didn't know dpreview was doing that but it makes sense of course.

I don't see the ads in the first place (Firefox and Adblock+) but neither do I have any access problems of any sort, so perhaps the two are indeed related as you suspect.

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I sometimes get the old familiar ones - the 123 of digital photography and the like - but sometimes much more localised ones which are usually in Italian, so it's obvious that some of my details have been gathered and exploited in order to target them to me!
Interesting, I didn't know dpreview was doing that but it makes sense of course.

I don't see the ads in the first place (Firefox and Adblock+) but neither do I have any access problems of any sort, so perhaps the two are indeed related as you suspect.
In all honesty I ought to add that I may be completely wrong in this - perhaps my location is simply being picked up from my Profile entry and/or email address?

Presumably if either of those were the case, the same would apply to anyone who's completed those fields (the latter being compulsory of course!) ?

Maybe I should amend my location to, say, New Zealand - and see what new ads appear?

Peter

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Maybe I should amend my location to, say, New Zealand - and see what new ads appear?
I doubt that would alter anything, but who knows? My understanding is that targeted advertising uses a combination of tracking cookies left on your computer as you browse and the much more sophisticated database that Google builds over time from your browsing habits. Google scripts are built into almost every commercial website you visit (including this one of course) and some sites even refuse to work if you attempt to disable them.

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Isola Verde wrote:
Are you able to tell how often that "Error on page" is associated with new on-page advertisements - I'd have said that those are the things here that change the most!
I sometimes get the old familiar ones - the 123 of digital photography and the like - but sometimes much more localised ones which are usually in Italian, so it's obvious that some of my details have been gathered and exploited in order to target them to me!
I can't but think that the security part of either your AV software or your browser may be either objecting to the info collection, or refusing (or else taking ages to go away, check and approve) the insertion of the ads concerned.
While they're almost certainly not "bad" sites, they're not necessarily amongst those your system is aware of - and the arrival of each of DPR's new advertising customers may trigger the problem afresh?
Altogether possible, Peter. I've noticed in recent weeks, the banners are all Canadian -- Rogers, Dell Canada, etc. -- but they haven't, until recent days, possibly, been a problem. Being the target of same at other Web sites hasn't affected our ability to navigate at any of them.

If, all of a sudden, the glitch is in the regional ads, DPReview (and more important) the ad buyers should probably know they can't sell what can't be seen. ;-)
As for reading those "Top Discussions", could it be the case that one or two particular established advertisers have exclusive access to that function, so none of the more 'difficult' ads ever appear when you're doing so?
Again, completely possible, and again, why would it only happen with one feature at one Web site? It's those d*mn cable companies, I tell ya!

Guess we'll have to live with the situation until it sorts itself out. Perhaps Alexa will show a decrease in hits if others have a similar problem and the red flags will go up (no pun intended).

Kind regards,
mike
 
Two things:

We're on dial-up, so IP ID is slightly different each time. Granted, it's enough to let them know it's Canadian.

And I don't log in until I want to post.

Should probably also mention, our computers are set to accept cookies but I have a bad habit of cleaning temp files, history and all offline content a number of times when surfing. I wanna make them work extra hard at finding out where I've been. ;-)

mike
 
Running IE6 (if it ain't broke...well, guess I can't say that but no snide remarks, please)
As of writing IE6/XP is still part of our supported browser/OS suite (though I'm looking forward to the day it's not)
I know I'm not going to get through when I see "Error on page." That makes me think something's screwed up at DPReview.
Much as I'm loathe to pass the buck, intermittent errors of the sort you're describing are often (but not always) due to JavaScript conflicts between our page and the ad being shown on the page.

Reproducing this error may be difficult for us as it may be particular to a regional ad. Some steps you can take to help us resolve the issue:
  • Make a note of the ad(s) which appear when you experience this issue
  • click the little "Error on page" icon at the bottom-left of the window and copy all the text in the dialogue box that pops up describing the error
  • Send these bits of info through to our feedback channel ( http://www.dpreview.com/misc/feedback.asp?to=labsdev )
In the meantime, disabling JavaScript and clearing cookies (for dpreview) should enable you to see the down-level version of the forums (less snazzy, but satisfactory in a pinch)
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Not having any problems and like John I never see the ads. I am using latest Firefox, but also checked in IE8, Opera, Chrome and Safari. I use a lot of browsers to check website compatibility on things I work on. BTW I believe GOOGLE Chrome to be the fastest browser by far for most sites. As for AV I have tried at least 5 different ones before settling on Avast (the free one is very good).
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I have not lost the graphics, but I have noticed that the forum takes much longer to come up on screen, and when I change the post I am viewing to another it takes much more time to come up. This delay is only when using Mozilla Firefox. IE seems to work at correct speed.
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Was able to slide right in to these forums today without a problem.

Thanks, Jaysen. Will send you a quick note via Feedback to say the same and will forward info regarding the banner ads, should it be necessary.

Thank you all for your input. Much appreciated! Peter, I think you get to wear the coveted gold star on your forehead, 'cause it appears you zeroed in on what has probably caused the glitch.

Merci!
mike

Final round coverage of the Canadian Open here has just started, so I'm outta here 'til later!
 
I noticed that sometime last week my access was slower and most noticeable when trying to follow a thread. I also noticed that my cpu usage is up quite a bit when on the DPR forums.

I have no issues with other sites and have confirmed that when things slow down (while on DPR) and I manage to shut down my browser and then immediately go to a different site, there are NO slow down issues.

My computer/browser/software has not been updated or changed over the past few weeks so I'm certain something is going on with DPR and probably their new forum 'toys'.
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