D70s user thinking of Upgrade. D5000 over D90? OR D90 over D5000?

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I am thinking of selling one my D70s bodies and make room for a new camera. I was all set t get the D90 when I got the chance to use a D5000. What I liked about the D5000 was the swivelling LCD screen. Why did Nikon not give it on the D90? Also, both cams have 11 point AF with only 1 cross sensor type where as the competition has more cross sensor type but I guess I am happy with the AF speed on my D70s so that should not be a problem.

I like the 2 dials on the D90 and also the overall feel seems much more sturdier than the D5000 but I have seen stunning IQ from both of them.

If you are an ex D70/70s user, which camera did you get and why? Should I consider a used D200?

My reasons for upgrading are better IQ at higher ISOs, bigger LCD, etc. OK, I just want something new (LOL).
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I am thinking of selling one my D70s bodies and make room for a new camera. I was all set t get the D90 when I got the chance to use a D5000. What I liked about the D5000 was the swivelling LCD screen.
My anticipated use of that swiveling screen would be to use LV on difficult angles, unfortunately there's no phase based AF, only the slowww (and very easy to give up) contrast detect, which imho defeat its swiveling purpose. Canon achieved much faster focus with LV. I believe D90 also has phase detect (?) but no swivel, oh well.
Also, both cams have 11 point AF with only 1 cross sensor type where as the competition has more cross sensor type but I guess I am happy with the AF speed on my D70s
I've tried others' so many cross sensor f/2.8 etc but believe me nikon usually got more spot on AF.
If you are an ex D70/70s user, which camera did you get and why?
I'd go with D90 as you won't miss any of d70's features except its ± conservative metering.
Should I consider a used D200?
If you're looking for a clean high ISO then ime it'd be better to skip d80/200.
OK, I just want something new (LOL).
Either one will be OK ... but if only d90 costs $800ish here I wouldn't even consider d5k. :-\
 
I can get my hands on a refurbished D90 for a very good price.
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I get the sense that you are looking at purchasing just the camera body? Newegg* has the D5000, body only at $769.99 and the D90, body only, for $ 929.99 and that is only a difference of $160.

I have to agree with sudirdjo regarding the LCD, the only advantage to having an articulated LCD is if you are shooting in Live View and as has pointed out, Live View as currently installed on Nikons is almost useless. The AF is so slow you virtually have to use a tripod. I thought Live View would come in handy for close-ups but that didn’t turn out to be a valid assumption. The other problem is that in bright sunlight, where I do most of my close-ups, the LCD is almost impossible to see, and the D90 has a far superior LCD image wise. The D90 has a 3” 920,000 pixel LCD compared to the 2.7 inch 230,000 pixel LCD found on the D5000; that’s 8% larger than the LCD on the D80 but with the same number of dots so the resolution is actually down.

Much of what follows I posted in another thread also concerning the D5000 vs. the D90.

I had the D50 and upgraded to the D90. Had the D5000 been available at the same time I would have passed on the D5000.

Is the D90 a better camera than the D5000? That depends entirely on how you define better. For me it is easily $160 better; the cost difference between the D90 and the D5000.

What I wanted when I made my upgrade.

I wanted to be able to utilize off-camera wireless flash utilizing the Nikon CLS system. I have a single SB-600 and it works very well in this regard; I paid $220 for my SB-600. To gain wireless flash on the D5000 I would have to add either the SB-900 (B&H no longer sells the SB-800) or a SU-800 and that adds another $470 for the SB-900 or $255 for the SU-800 to the cost of the D5000. So right off the D5000 costs a minimum of $95 more than the D90 if the user has any aspirations of ever using off-camera flash.

I pretty much hated the menu system on the D50 and the lack of non-menu controls. I’m sure, like the D40/60/80 the menu system is much improved on the D5000, but there is still an acute lack of non-menu controls. The two command wheels make the camera a joy to use; I shoot a lot in the “A” mode and the front wheel controls the aperture and the rear wheel the ISO. I also can change the shooting mode, metering mode, AF mode, exposure compensation, and AF-area using dedicated controls without having to enter a menu.

I personally do not like the ergonomics of the D5000, it just feels awkward in my hands. I also would miss the top control panel. A real deal breaker for me is the fact that the focus point cannot be locked. I have to shoot left-eyed and my nose was always touching the multi-selector on the D50 and changing the focus point, so a locking multi-selector was a must have; the D5000 does not have this feature and even if don’t shoot left-eyed it is sometime very handy to be able to lock in a focus point.

I would also have to replace my 50mm f/1.8 lens and that coupled with the extra cost of adding wireless flash to the D5000 makes the D5000 not only more expensive than the D90 but its ergonomics and features fall far short. The only improvement I see is the articulated LCD but as I already stated I see little need or use for.

\* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2075540784%2050001247&name=Nikon%20Inc

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Brooks
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I didn't see that you mentioned whether you had several lenses. If you have screw drive autofocus lenses they will not autofocus on the D5000. That would be a big thing I would think. If you only have afs lenses then this is not a problem. I would think that the D90 would still be the logical choice if you are used to the D70 though. And like the previous poster stated, I just can't find a use for live view, so the swivel screen would only be good for me so I could turn it around backward and not have it out in the open all the time.
 
Several reasons I picked the D90:

Works with all of my lenses - especially my Sigma 105 macro
Has main and sub command dials
Can act as commander for CLS flash - I have the R1 close up system
Felt & operated more like my D70s

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Sam
 
I don't know which Nikon is a better upgrade, but here's an idea for your old D70s: I helped modify a friend's to convert it to infrared, and he's been a happy camper ever since. If that technique/look appeals to you in any way, the D70s is a good candidate for infrared; you just remove the internal IR filter (with extreme care, there are a couple of tutorials online) and get an external one (on the lens).

What seems to have pushed him is that he wasn't going to get much for his D70s, and it had just been sitting there for a while... Just an idea!
 
picture taking ability but I know I can use the better LCD, view finder, etc. I have mainly the 18-55 VR and the 70-300mm VR lenses and a 50mm 1.8 AF. I think I can still get around $300 for my D70s and get a refurbished D90 for $650.

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--Nick.
 
I wouldnt touch a D5000 with a 99 1/2 ft. pole at the moment. From what I have seen (and experienced with my D5000) ALL of them have the issue that is forcing the repairs.

I owned the D70 when it first came out and LOVED it. I can tell you that from my personal experience, the D5000 (or D60 for that matter) just didnt live up to my memories of the D70.

Go with the D90.
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-IL
 
I had never considered the flash scenario and the focus lock which I use a lot on the D70s. I will be pulling the plug on the refurbished D9- maybe this week.
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--Nick.
 
If you step back and look at Nikons thinking the D5000 was not meant as an upgrade from the D70 / 80 or even the D50. The path in Nikons thinking is the D90. The rumoured D3000 will be the entry level DSLR with the D5000 being the next step or maybe its successor. The D5000 would be a step backward from the D70s as I think everyone here has demonstrated. Both Nikon and Canon have segmented the market to compete with each other as well as watching their backs with all the other manufacturers. Oh for the days of just Nikormat and Nikon - that way you knew exactly where you stood.
Claude
 
thouht. The body and controls of the D5000 just don't measure up to the D70s but the D5000 does have newer sensor, image processing technology, better LCD, etc.

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--Nick.
 

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