Some Wedding Shots....(pics)

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Hi guys havnt posted in a while...we've had the good fortune to be very busy. I thought I'd post a few wedding pics up albeit taken with the D700 for your perusal and comment.

I've shot a smattering of weddings over the past 20 years but its hardly been core to our business but since moving to the High Street its become a major part of the daily grind:-)

I had intially tried lots of different things but working on the basis that I'm to old to change my ways and a sports hack at heart I just get on and shoot them these days.

Anyway I'd love to read some comments good and and bad and thank you for taking the time to look.

















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Looking good Geoff. Glad things have worked out for you so well, after setting up the high street studio, especially in the current financial situation.

As you said, you must be doing something right to get such good bookings right at the start.

XX for my Shaz-related Kodak Brownie points :-O
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Crisp... colorful and no "blown out" backgrounds... just my style:)

Beautiful work Geoff... nice shooting and cropping too!

Love 'em!

Thanks for sharing Geoff!

Albert
 
Looking good Geoff. Glad things have worked out for you so well, after setting > up the high street studio, especially in the current financial situation.
thanks and it wasnt without a degree of trepidation but I figured leases were going cheap and if we could hang out 'till the recession was over we'd be in a strong position for the future.
As you said, you must be doing something right to get such good bookings right at the start.
Dunno about that more the luck of the Irish:-)
XX for my Shaz-related Kodak Brownie points :-O
You old smoothy you:-) you know she luv's ya anyway:-)
Keep well.
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Geoff_R

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So here we are on this forum to educate and promote the Kodak line of cameras.........I know that the D700 is a better overall camera for weddings.........but don't you have SLRn images that look just as good. I didn't see one image that could not of been shot at ISO 400 that the Kodak could not accomplish. So its not the photography that I need to comment on.........its the camera that is wrong for this site.

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Hi Steve,

Great images, as usual. I've always believed it's the wizard and not the wand. Most people I know that have HI ISO cameras shoot them at ISO400. It's funny I shoot my Fuji S5 around ISO400-640 even though it can go higher. I only shoot it at the hall and church. The formals are all done the the SLRn still. I have been humming and hawing about getting a D700 but really the next step up is the D3x. The image quality of the D700 isn't really a leap over the SLRn at ISO 250 or 400. Above that, the D700 is king in ISO but DR diminishes as the ISO gets higher. THis in my opinion is not good for a white wedding dress.

I've discovered for wedding photography, ISO 1000-1250 is more than enough. I've found that the video guys lights now over power my flashes above ISO 1250.

Anyways, I'm interested in a 16mp camera, and I can wait. I decided to buy a new tripod instead and it suits my SLRn. UNI-LOC 1600.

Paul
 
"Anyway I'd love to read some comments good and and bad and thank you for taking the time to look."

Bearing in mind that I'm not in competition with you - different continents - and that I have no vested interest in destroying your business, and comparing these samples with the ones shot by Fotofactory a few pages down, I would most definitely pay Fotofactory to shoot my wedding. I suspect I would get fewer images, but they would be much more stylish. Assuming your goal was to publicise your business, it makes no sense to do it in this forum, which is visited by a handful of retro-technology enthusiasts spread thinly across the globe. I suspect that in the Nikon forum your post would be buried within minutes.

Still, your shots caused me to ponder the nature of wedding photography. On the one hand it has feet in two different stools. Leftwards it is photojournalism, because the clients want a record of the time; clockwise it is art, because the clients don't want flies and mucous and boils and warts and horse dung, they want something that captures the moment and looks good. I suspect that news photography is moving in the direction of wedding photography, with layers of style that replicate a moviegoer's idea of reality. I'm thinking of all those photos from the Iraq / Afghanistan war that have been deliberately shot and processed so as to look like Saving Private Ryan. That doesn't happen accidentally. People are unnerved by photographs of the real world. Natural photographs of the real world make the audience feel small.

I have no doubt that you captured every aspect of the day, with hundreds upon hundreds of photographs, albeit that you didn't really capture the moment as it was, you selected poses and shots etc. The photographs mean something to the people in the photographs, but they mean nothing to me because I have no emotional connection with the people. They are just people. People on the other side of the world that I will never meet. Young-looking uninteresting-looking normal everyday people of a kind I can look at in real life. I don't want to look at everyday people, I have seen enough everyday people to make me sick. I am sick of everyday people, I am sick of their conservatism and lack of ambition.

I also have no emotional connection with Fotofactory's pictures - none of the pictures in this thread have any emotion in them, a wedding is not the place for emotion - but they have style. The style substitutes for the lack of emotion. Your photographs are a truthful record of people I have never met and don't care about, and so I feel nothing.

It raises a wider point as to what wedding photography is far. For the clients, is it a means to remember the past, or a means to show off the expense of their wedding to other people? For the photographer it is presumably a means to shot off and win more clients and thus money - no-one would photograph the marriage of strangers for fun - in which case Fotofactory's pictures do a better job, because they have the aforementioned style. Yours are probably more truthful but at the same time they aren't really truthful, because there are no warts or boils etc. There's no truth or emotion or style and I don't care about the people.

Out of that reply by far the best epigram is "a wedding is not the place for emotion". Going by Google's search results I was the first person to say that.
 
thanks for the considered reply....its appreciated.

I'd agree that Steve's pics are stylish if contrived but he's a better/different photog from me...I'm a sports hack at heart.

I'd love to have the time with the bride and groom to create some extra special shots but at our end of the market they tend to be a torrid rush to get the shots they want. But I promise to do better next time:-)

But lets not forget the bottom line is fairly simple for us....we have a lot of bookings and our clients like our work.

As for promoting my business here hmmm not really....I know this place is full of folks like me:-) and I've got a few guys and gals here I'd like to call friends so I share the odd pic with them to let them know what we're up to.

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nice shots....you're better than me:-)
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Not really Geoff. The shots shown were selected from how many weddings over how many years? Yours were all from one wedding and I know, from seeing a number of your wedding shots over the past year, when you really got going, you could easily match those and in some instances, exceed them both for quality and originality. As one simple personal observation, the third one looked more like a stage shot from some Greek tragedy where the bride had just died.

If others saw your boxing shots, they would understand that in that field you are right at the top and your move into commercial photography is of necessity and I reckon you and Shaz have made a brilliant start - as evidenced by the number of bookings right from square one, based on quality and friendliness of approach coupled to professionalism and balanced pricing.

I know this is the Kodak DSLR forum but like me, with the 14n, it is used for specific tasks and not for more general ones. As you said in your original posting, you like the camaraderie in this forum and you are a DCS 14n owner. Had Kodak continued to develop their range no doubt we would both be using a later model more often. Meantime, it does what it does best very well - but does have limitations for general use, especially with regard to such events as weddings.

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The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject and mastery of his process. -Edward Weston
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thanks for your kind words but you should know my comment to Steve was very much tongue in cheek:-) In any event you and I both know I was only posting here for the reasons you stated and to keep this forum active.

I dont know what he, Steve, was trying to prove by behaving like the forum police and posting his pics in my thread, very rude and quite bad form. If he wants to post pics showing how brilliant he is he should do it in his own thread:-)
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Geoff_R

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Well, as you well know Geoff, I is a geniearse :-)

To redress the balance (camera make wise), I have sorted out 3 from recent trip to Berlin and posted in a new fred - or should that be thread?.

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The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject and mastery of his process. -Edward Weston
http://www.photosnowdonia.co.uk/ZPS
 
WOW............O ..............WOW............did I spark off some interesting comments. My photos posted here were staged for some degree of style and order. Like Paul I was shoot the "real" images of ceremony and reception with a Nikon D70 previously and now a D200.

I try to find the emotion of a typical wedding where I select a large number of images to be animated into a PHOTOSHOW slide show. I am always crying when I both assembly the slideshow and when I view them. My focus is to find the missing messageof a typical wedding that is lost due to schedules and pressures of the day. Of courese the real message we as photographer should strive for .... " "this one day event is about family and love". We as photographers get caught up into the like the bridal couples into the flowers, dresses, locations, and how much money is spent.

So in the end..............my photos were on this thread to shout out.............keep Kodak images alive...............show this forum and viewers that the Kodak cameras can evolve as software changes to match the best that the JAPS can produce today. Geoff ............your images are fine....... So excuse this American for trying to focus our forum not on your work, but on the yellow boxes that got us to this point.
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