Can firmware increase fps on 5D2 ?

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Forgive me guys, if this is a stupid question!

For those tech and software freaks, can a firmware update increase fps from the rated 3.9 to at least 5? Just curious since the 1Ds3 already has 5fps and same pixel count.

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no, the 1dsmkiii has TWO digic chips (even if each is a slower than the 5dmkii's), faster buffer memory, a better faster shutter/mirror box (i think they more or less used the old slug of a mirror/shutter from the old 5D and for all we know it would fly apart at 5fps after not too long)
Forgive me guys, if this is a stupid question!

For those tech and software freaks, can a firmware update increase fps from the rated 3.9 to at least 5? Just curious since the 1Ds3 already has 5fps and same pixel count.

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Ajimon
 
It's possible, The 1Dmk2 and I believe all 1 series allow you to set the Max FPS (Up to the max rated (8.5 for mine 10 for the 1Dmk3) With the 5Dmk2 it's possible it's software limited (Only Canon knows the real answer)
Forgive me guys, if this is a stupid question!

For those tech and software freaks, can a firmware update increase fps from the rated 3.9 to at least 5? Just curious since the 1Ds3 already has 5fps and same pixel count.

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Ajimon
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Cal

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a better faster shutter/mirror box (i think they more or less used the old slug of a mirror/shutter from the old 5D and for all we know it would fly apart at 5fps after not too long)
which in turn came straight out of the EOS-30 (Elan 7) which was 4FPS max. That's all you're getting from the 5DII, and that's the trade off for getting a 21MP FF sensor in a camera for $2700.

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Mal
 
that is not doing any magic, just allowing you to custom set whatever limit up to what it can handle

you can't firmware the chipset and memory to run faster and you can't firmware the shutter/mirror physical mechanisms from flying apart/breaking down if they run too far or make them work faster they simply can
It's possible, The 1Dmk2 and I believe all 1 series allow you to set the Max FPS (Up to the max rated (8.5 for mine 10 for the 1Dmk3) With the 5Dmk2 it's possible it's software limited (Only Canon knows the real answer)
Forgive me guys, if this is a stupid question!

For those tech and software freaks, can a firmware update increase fps from the rated 3.9 to at least 5? Just curious since the 1Ds3 already has 5fps and same pixel count.

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Ajimon
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Cal

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No doubt Canon, like other major manufacturers of technology products (hardware and software), builds features into almost every product that we may never see. Why is this? It's rarely due to technological limitations, but most often is due solely to competitive marketing reasons, or rather, the absence of them.

Assume that Company C comes out with a product that has a certain set of publicized features. That product's features are enough (and often more) to set it apart from the product it replaces, making an upgrade among an already captive audience desireable. (Remember, this could be a camera or a word-processing application.)

Now, suppose that four months later, Company N comes out with a product that leapfrogs the one Company C announced earlier. So, what it Company C to do? Throw in the towel and wait two years for its next model or version? Its product has been eclipsed! The answer, in certain cases, is to suddenly enable features that were there all along, but which were hidden from public view. This can be accomplished with a software patch or firmware update, again for your computer's operating system, its application programs, mobile phone, camera, whatever.

Company C announces the new features or capabilities with great fanfare, is an instant hero for "responding to customer feedback" and, in the same action, does its own bit of leapfrogging. (Take that, Company N!)

Ok, you say, but under what circumstances would those latent capabilities never see the light of day? Easy. Now, suppose Company N does come out with a new product, but its feature set falls short and does not leapfrog ahead of the product that Company C announced several months earlier. In this case, little inventive exists for Company C to enable those hidden capabilities. Company C can comfortably sit on the proudct it announced, and delay or even cancel announcing these other features. They may not ever be seen until Company C rolls out its next product, perhaps two or three years down the road.

Insane speculation? Hardly. As a technology journalist for nearly 25 years, who has signed hundreds of of non-disclosure agreements, I've seen it first hand.

Let the flame mail begin!
 
The 50D has a 95MB/sec throughput with the same electronics where the 5DmkII does only 82MB/sec. So the Digic is able to handle an extra 1fps. Would the RAM keep up? Would the mirrorbox handle it without the body exploding? Only Canon knows the answers really. And I don't think firmware will do the trick in regard to all the mechanical parts involved.

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The 50D has a 95MB/sec throughput with the same electronics where the 5DmkII does only 82MB/sec. So the Digic is able to handle an extra 1fps. Would the RAM keep up? Would the mirrorbox handle it without the body exploding? Only Canon knows the answers really. And I don't think firmware will do the trick in regard to all the mechanical parts involved.

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depends also if the sensor can read out the information as quickly as well.
 
they do seem to limit a whole lot by firmware, but those are things that would cost them nothing extra to put in and enable

more fps requires faster memory, more digic (not that a digic really costs a whole lot so it's maybe a bit cheap if that was an inssue)

more fps requires better spec physical parts in the shutter/mirror assembly, this probably does entail some real extra cost

rebels do have the cpu power to do more fps, whether the shutter/mirror can do it i am not so sure though, that is the only place where i see there being much any chance of firmware limiting fps, and even there i would actually bet against it, but i could be wrong
Canon would never limit a camera by Firmware?????

I'm saying they could and you'd never know....

Who's right "Only Canon Knows"...
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not so sure the shutter/mirror can do it since none of the cams they have used it in has done more than 4fps

also possible that they do some slightly more advanced file processing with the 5dmkii files (1 series at least used too), although it doesn't particularly appear to be the case hah

anyway yeah i guess only they know
i supposed they might have wanted to avoid stepping on 1dsmkiii toes

anyway i still doubt it, although this and perhaps certain rebels, maybe
The 50D has a 95MB/sec throughput with the same electronics where the 5DmkII does only 82MB/sec. So the Digic is able to handle an extra 1fps. Would the RAM keep up? Would the mirrorbox handle it without the body exploding? Only Canon knows the answers really. And I don't think firmware will do the trick in regard to all the mechanical parts involved.

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Insane speculation? Hardly. As a technology journalist for nearly 25 years, who has signed hundreds of of non-disclosure agreements, I've seen it first hand.
OK, but when have you seen a camera company enable features except for fairly trivial ones? And YES, I do know about the video enhancements on the 5D mk2.

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Yeah... I wasn't saying you were wrong . Just that we may not know the whole story. Who's to say that Marketing said that 4 FPS was what this market dictates and even though the shutter could do 6 they could save that for a future model....
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