National Parks not a petting zoo!

Marty Scher B · Aug 17, 2002

Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

Mike Roberts · Aug 17, 2002

Marty Scher B said:
Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

Not much of a goring if he was treated and released. Lucky bast-ard.

Hail, Darwin!

Mike Roberts

eshropshire · Aug 17, 2002

Mike Roberts said:
Marty Scher B said:

Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

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http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

Not much of a goring if he was treated and released. Lucky bast-ard.

Hail, Darwin!

Mike Roberts

But did he get the picture?

I think it is funny/sad whatever that people can't understand that National Parks are not zoos. At Yellowstone they hand everyone who enters a warning paper about bison. I guess some people just don't read.

I remember when I was in Africa a tourist was killed trying to pose with a lion.

Parks are great, but lets follow the rules. I am glad they are prosecuting, hopefully this will get others to obey.

Ed
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Rodger Carter · Aug 19, 2002

Bet he now sees the wisdom of a 10X zoom!

Rodger

Dave Knadler · Aug 19, 2002

Well, I'm glad the guy wasn't killed, but I love stories like this. You have to be a special kind of stupid to fool around with a bison. Do our national parks attract a disproportionately large number of jackasses? I wonder.

Mike Roberts said:
Hail, Darwin!

KenEis · Aug 19, 2002

I witnessed a similar incident with a Japanese tourist running out of a tour bus about 5 years ago. Only difference was this guy got tossed about 20 feet. I asked the ranger about it after I was interviewed and he said in a normal year 6 times more people are hurt by buffs then bears. These babies are not cows.

The Japanese guy did get the photo and about 50 stitches on the inside of his thigh. He was very happy the bisson didn't extend the horn two inches higher or he would have not had any more children. Nice fellow. He was concerned that nothing happen to the buffalo. The scene was interesting. The buffalo didn't charge, just shook his head. The photographer was trying to get a closeup of the animal's eye!!

Marty Scher B said:
Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

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Ken Eis

Joe Nonneman · Aug 19, 2002

The story identified this man as a "photographer". More like an idiot, probably a guy with a PS camera that has never shot in anything other than full program mode. Better off buying a telephoto lens and waiting for the thing to lift its head, it would have saved him some medical and attorney bills in the end. If it doesn't it isn't the end of the world.

So, who will he sue?

A. National Park Service for lack of a warning sign on the road. OR
B. Camera manufacturer for lack of a warning sign on the camera.

Marty Scher B said:
Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

BillDrew · Aug 20, 2002

Ben Kreunen has one of the better park warning signs I've seen at http://www.path.unimelb.edu.au/~bernardk/victoria/warning.html

Joe Nonneman said:
So, who will he sue?

A. National Park Service for lack of a warning sign on the road. OR
B. Camera manufacturer for lack of a warning sign on the camera.

Marty Scher B said:

Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

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Randy Olson · Aug 20, 2002

Marty Scher B said:
Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

Jim Peeler · Aug 20, 2002

Randy Olson said:
Marty Scher B said:

Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

Click to expand...

I remember in 1954 in Yellowstone wading out in chest high water with my 8mm camera to get a shot of a moose (the water only came to his knees). I was a dumb kid then excited by the closness of the moose. I did get the shot. Zoom lenses were hard to come by then. The moose chased me out of the water and I learned a good lesson that day.
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Jim

Michael Wisniewski · Aug 20, 2002

I wish somebody had a got a shot of the Bison staring down the photographer. That's priceless.

I can just see the Bison saying "Yeah who's your Daddy now Mr. photographer man ..."

It's nice to see the wildlife winning one for a change. I know it's necessary sometimes but I hate it when we put down animals because "we" do something stupid.

Marty Scher B said:
Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

Gaetan J. · Aug 20, 2002

He almost made the darwin prize list. The Darwin prize recipients are people who by their early death have helped to improve our genetic code.

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Gaetan J.
'when you assume something you make an ass out of u and me' B.Hill

Tim Lozinski · Aug 20, 2002

Heh, the things is, its NOT our American cousins are less intelligent than us Brits (who said that!?). I think its the whole boldness thing. Maybe I am wrong to speak for the whole UK in this, but I think most Brits would be WAY too S* t scared to mess with wild beasts - we prefer our Looooong lenses .

That said, I did notice that no matter HOW many warnings they give on planes about staying seated til the signs say so - on American Domestics most people just do as they please and wander around anyway - on Brit Domestics people tend to do as they are told (maybe I am in a minority of experience) - perhaps its cos we all don't fly as much as all that so its kinda 'special' and we don't want to get it wrong, heh.

Whats it mean? Maybe warning signs in America are optional, but when I see 'don't pee on the electric fence' I usually pay damn good attention.

Ted B.47613 · Aug 20, 2002

A year ago, I was on a road trip. Coming up I-81 in Virginia, I crossed a bridge. Down river was a cliff and it looked like a nice photo op, so I got out of my car and walked back across the bridge (illegal walking on the highway, to be sure). I got half way to the center of the bridge, when I noticed the bridge bouncing with every tractor-trailer that passed. Then I realized that if a vehicle came onto the shoulder, I would have nowhere to go but over the side! I snapped a shot and got back to my car quickly. Lesson learned.

Here is the pic:

Marty Scher B said:
Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

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My Galleries: http://home.attbi.com/~keylargographics/

Jim · Aug 20, 2002

Tim Lozinski said:
Heh, the things is, its NOT our American cousins are less
intelligent than us Brits (who said that!?). I think its the whole
boldness thing. Maybe I am wrong to speak for the whole UK in
this, but I think most Brits would be WAY too S* t scared to mess
with wild beasts - we prefer our Looooong lenses .

That said, I did notice that no matter HOW many warnings they give
on planes about staying seated til the signs say so - on American
Domestics most people just do as they please and wander around
anyway - on Brit Domestics people tend to do as they are told
(maybe I am in a minority of experience) - perhaps its cos we all
don't fly as much as all that so its kinda 'special' and we don't
want to get it wrong, heh.

Whats it mean? Maybe warning signs in America are optional, but
when I see 'don't pee on the electric fence' I usually pay damn
good attention.

Let me state for the record that all of us Americans aren't that stoopid. I see a bison I gotta tell you i'm headed the opposite direction fast if it so happens I'm to close. That's what they make zooms for. Oh, and I've never been abroad, but i'd imagine that stupid people are stupid people, and that every country has its share. What was it a comedian used to do in his standup act? Oh yeah lol, where's your sign. Maybe if we just made the idiots wear a sign we could just avoid being around them and allow them to apply for Darwins award however they chose to do so.
God Bless,
Jim
http://www.pbase.com/jrj02

Baywing · Aug 20, 2002

I think it has a lot to do with the number of lawyers and frivilous lawsuits over here. Everyone sues over the least thing and the judges seem intent on rewarding stupidity. As a result, you have to put up signs to cover your a* . With so many signs, it isn't long before your mind stops giving them consideration. Then, there are those here that don't care about anyone but themselves and no one is going to tell them what to do. They get hurt, sue, win, then more signs. Catch-22!

Sears lost a suit years ago because some moron took an electric lawn mower, picked it up, used it to trim a hedge, dropped it on their foot, and said in court there was nothing in the manual that said it couldn't be used as a hedge trimmer. If my digital camera evers dies, I'll take it and drive some nails with it then sue Nikon for a new one, 'cause the manual doesn't say I can't do that! ;-)

Tim Lozinski said:
Heh, the things is, its NOT our American cousins are less
intelligent than us Brits (who said that!?). I think its the whole
boldness thing. Maybe I am wrong to speak for the whole UK in
this, but I think most Brits would be WAY too S* t scared to mess
with wild beasts - we prefer our Looooong lenses .

That said, I did notice that no matter HOW many warnings they give
on planes about staying seated til the signs say so - on American
Domestics most people just do as they please and wander around
anyway - on Brit Domestics people tend to do as they are told
(maybe I am in a minority of experience) - perhaps its cos we all
don't fly as much as all that so its kinda 'special' and we don't
want to get it wrong, heh.

Whats it mean? Maybe warning signs in America are optional, but
when I see 'don't pee on the electric fence' I usually pay damn
good attention.

Ted B.47613 · Aug 20, 2002

some 'purist' told him he could get every shot with a 50mm prime, and he should only use that lens until he became a 'real' photog.

Rodger Carter said:
Bet he now sees the wisdom of a 10X zoom!

Rodger

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'The Key to Safe Wildlife Photography: Think OUTSIDE of the Bear.'

My Galleries: http://home.attbi.com/~keylargographics/

Ted B.47613 · Aug 20, 2002

I'm sure the per capita number of stupid people in England is the same as in the U.S. There just aren't as many bison per capita.

Seems I remember a little island somewhere that, at one time, thought it could control half the world. Until someone dumped some tea in the water, that is.

Tim Lozinski said:
Heh, the things is, its NOT our American cousins are less
intelligent than us Brits (who said that!?). I think its the whole
boldness thing. Maybe I am wrong to speak for the whole UK in
this, but I think most Brits would be WAY too S* t scared to mess
with wild beasts - we prefer our Looooong lenses .

That said, I did notice that no matter HOW many warnings they give
on planes about staying seated til the signs say so - on American
Domestics most people just do as they please and wander around
anyway - on Brit Domestics people tend to do as they are told
(maybe I am in a minority of experience) - perhaps its cos we all
don't fly as much as all that so its kinda 'special' and we don't
want to get it wrong, heh.

Whats it mean? Maybe warning signs in America are optional, but
when I see 'don't pee on the electric fence' I usually pay damn
good attention.

--
'The Key to Safe Wildlife Photography: Think OUTSIDE of the Bear.'

My Galleries: http://home.attbi.com/~keylargographics/

Rodger Carter · Aug 20, 2002

Quite so. I have seen a lot of posts here and elsewhere to the effect that a 3X zoom is adequate, and that there is no valid need for the big zooms that some digicam manufacturers have available. The stock answer is “get closer to the subject.” This guy was obviously following that advice, but with results that he didn’t foresee. Guess I’ll just stick with my 10X zoom – there may be some slight degradation in the image at max focal length, but at least there is no degradation in my personage due to bison horn punctures, etc.

Rodger

Bob Williams · Aug 20, 2002

We have a herd of Bison that are in a local park. You have to
stay in your vehicle in that part of the park. We used to cruise
the park 4 or 5 days a week when they opened in the morning.
They would feed first thing, and we got to see every animal in
the park up close. One morning a bison walked up to my truck,
sniffing at the food my daughter was eating. It came to my side,

which we thought was kinda cool. It then stuck it's head in thru my window rather rapidly, putting a full grown bison head between
my chest and the steering wheel. Believe me, being trapped in
your truck seat by a bison is not the most fun you will have that
day! He began to breath in and out rapidly, smelling my daughters
breakfast. Did you know that when a bison inhales inside a truck
cab, that it will suck dust out of the carpets? It will. When they do

so rapidly, it is like being in a mini hurricane. I calmly reached up and scratched the beast between the eyes. This earned me a slam
with the side of the head, but it decided to go check out something
else. This does not take a special kind of stupid to have happen.
I was following the rules. I did not know that bison thought hash
rounds smelled really good in the morning! Now, to let it happen
again would take a special kind of stupid! You live and you learn!
Placing charges against the man that was gored is just plain stupid.
Either he learned, or he didn't. If the bison could not convince him,
then the court will not either. All charges does is give a branch
of the government another chance to take another persons
money for their own use. Some stupid acts do not require a
lecture afterward to understand why they were not a smart thing
to do.

Bogie said:
Here is the pic:

Marty Scher B said:

Some people can't get it that wild ainmals are - well -wild.

This guy just had to have the shot.

http://msn.espn.go.com/outdoors/conservation/news/2002/0809/1416254.html

Click to expand...

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