roc runner
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my sources tell me that the G3 will be released soon
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Canon G3 coming soon
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M.P. Kooij
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Martin Beck
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Still waiting ???
cWills109000
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I will take a G2 or G3 with 4mp over the flawed Nikon 5700. The 5700 is nothing more than a glorified Cp5000. The cp5000 was a disaster to put it politely. The 5700 cost a lot more and the Af is really bad on it. This is only one of the problems. Go see the many complaints in the Nikon forum about this. The 5700 owners are screaming for a firmware fix.
kenyee
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Well...I can wish.
Anyone know when 6Mpix will reach the consumer level?
Anyone know when 6Mpix will reach the consumer level?
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steve leonardo
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Why would anyone want to do that? I want Nikon to build killer cameras for real cheap. And then I want Minolta to 1-up the Nikon, and Fuji to build one better and cheaper than the Minolta...It's called competition, and it improves the field!!!
s©tt
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That just means more storage, but what does it mean for print quality? Not much IMO. 4mp seems superb for prosumer cams.
Give me the G2 with a 6x zoom, and hire in a decent case-design (i.e. style) team this time.
And while they're at it, why not build software like 'AstroStack' or 'DP++' right into the firmware. WOW! Now that would be a killer digicam.
Just my 2¢ worth (eurocents, that is!
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Scott.
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Give me the G2 with a 6x zoom, and hire in a decent case-design (i.e. style) team this time.
And while they're at it, why not build software like 'AstroStack' or 'DP++' right into the firmware. WOW! Now that would be a killer digicam.
Just my 2¢ worth (eurocents, that is!
). Scott.
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Carl Lum
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Unless 16x20 prints become all the rage, why on earth would anyone need such a camera? With my S40, 4x6 prints look indistinguishable whether I shoot at 4, 3, or nearly even 1 megapixel! Same goes for most 8x10s: 2 megapixels look almost identical to 4 megapixel images.
I just shudder at the file size, storage space, and DEAD PIXEL PROBLEMS a 6MP CCD would create! It's well known that higher density CCDs have a greater chance of developing dead pixels.
What I'd like is a power-packed 4MP camera like my S40 that can fold as flat as a Dimage X. When you use it, it pops open a la the old SX-70 cameras! Failing that, what I'd REALLY like is just the ability to remap that stupid "Set" button on the multifunction controller to another button, like the Display button. (My Canon Hi8 camcorder has excellent button remapping capabilities--I don't see why they can't implement it on their cameras!)
Carl
Greg C.
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Who are you and who are your sources? Not that I disagree as this information as been widely suspected for some time. Its just irritating when someone drops some interesting bit of unsubstantiated information, never to be seen on the thread again. See
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=3190043
Roc,
If you are still reading this thread you started (which I doubt), perhaps you can straighten George out (privately) since his ignored my polite reply.
Greg
Georg Zechner
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Hi there !
I think you shouldn't pay too much attention to such posts. He's probably just waiting to see how many responses he triggers and- he's done just that ! I mean, come on, I have no sources, I've even not followed the industry that much lately but I can imagine that Canon won't wait too long with a prosumer 5 MP camera, consindering that Nikon has had one for quite some time. And as for the 6 MP question- I think it would be cool to at least have the opportunity to shoot 6 MP pics, BUT apart from the storage problem or dead pixel problem- would a G2-size lens do the job ? I don't know, I just know that a S40-size lens has its limitations and that 4 MP is the maximum it can handle. So 6 MP or more in a prosumer cam the size of a G2 are in my oppinion far away, because its a mechanical problem, not one that can be solved easily with some research. Correct me if I'm wrong...
I think you shouldn't pay too much attention to such posts. He's probably just waiting to see how many responses he triggers and- he's done just that ! I mean, come on, I have no sources, I've even not followed the industry that much lately but I can imagine that Canon won't wait too long with a prosumer 5 MP camera, consindering that Nikon has had one for quite some time. And as for the 6 MP question- I think it would be cool to at least have the opportunity to shoot 6 MP pics, BUT apart from the storage problem or dead pixel problem- would a G2-size lens do the job ? I don't know, I just know that a S40-size lens has its limitations and that 4 MP is the maximum it can handle. So 6 MP or more in a prosumer cam the size of a G2 are in my oppinion far away, because its a mechanical problem, not one that can be solved easily with some research. Correct me if I'm wrong...
cWills109000
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You can see Af complaints in a lot of forums. It may be a bigger problem on the Nikon 5700 because of no focus assist light, a slow lens and the 8x zoom. And it cost a lot more than the G2 or other cameras in the class. From a read of some of the complaints in the Nikon forum the rate of bad Af pics is higher with the 5700 than some other cameras. I was hoping Nikon to put out a better camera. The 8x zoom is a good idea.
cWills109000
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Rumour is it will have same 4mp but a 4x zoom. We will see if it will be soon ;-))
kenyee
Senior Member
That's something that's interesting.
I vaguely remember that a "sharp" film lens has a resolution of 50 lines
per millimeter.
What's the theoretical max pixel resolution for an S40/G2-size lens? And what size is necessary for a 6Mpix image (the long claimed holy grail number where digital is "as sharp as film").
ken
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Planet Art
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Yes, all 6MP SLRs look great but given the fact that it requires an extremely expensive 17mm lens to only achieve the same focal angle I get with my G1 + WTC (27mm equivalent) I am not ready to go there yet.
A 6MP G3 with a 24mm-150 will do just fine.
Canon's RAW format is a lot beeter than Nikon's RAW counterpart.
I don't think you're wrong - there is an optical problem. The G1/G2 shows obvious corner softness at 7mm (wide angle) when wide open. The newer 5 and 6mp CCDs are larger than the 4mp G2 CCD, so I don't think the G2 lens can cover them. It's hard to make the CCD pixels smaller without degrading signal to noise.
By the way, the 4MP G2 CCD is capable of resolving something between 80 and 160 lines per mm, just based on the pixel count (8.8 mm diagonal, 2840 pixels). Really top-notch 35 mm lenses peak out around 80-100 lines/mm. The G2 lens could be exceeding that at its optimum apertures. cheers, GKL
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