SLR user considering a 707

Meyricke

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I have used a Minolta 5000 SLR for 12 years & am going to replace it with a digital which has similar functionality at a similar price but at half the weight. I take a mixture of basic holiday snaps (mainly point & shoot), wildlife shots, good landscapes & some macros, mainly of valuables for insurance purposes. I also need some photos for publication on both web sites and newsletters etc.

The 707 seems to offer most of what I need, has excellent poor light capabilities & I have been told that it is very simple to use - far simpler than the CP 5700 which is another possible. The 707's zoom, however, is much smaller than the CP5700's, a handicap when I want to take wildlife shots. What tele lenses can I add to the 707 and what impact do they have on the quality of the images?

Similarly, the wide angle is less good than the D7i. What add-on lenses are there etc etc?

Thanks for any help that you can provide.

Meyricke
 
I have used a Minolta 5000 SLR for 12 years & am going to replace
it with a digital which has similar functionality at a similar
price but at half the weight. I take a mixture of basic holiday
snaps (mainly point & shoot), wildlife shots, good landscapes &
some macros, mainly of valuables for insurance purposes. I also
need some photos for publication on both web sites and newsletters
etc.
Comparing to my SLr's its lighter. Much better, and crisper, even compared to velvia.
The 707 seems to offer most of what I need, has excellent poor
light capabilities & I have been told that it is very simple to use
  • far simpler than the CP 5700 which is another possible. The 707's
zoom, however, is much smaller than the CP5700's, a handicap when I
want to take wildlife shots. What tele lenses can I add to the 707
and what impact do they have on the quality of the images?
The 5700 is very handicapped, comparing the 707 to the 5700 Zoom shouldnt be an issue. You can use any teleconvertor/wide on it, the Olympus line for the E10/20 series are some of the most popular due to cost, clarity and lack of vignetting and CA.

The TCON-14b is nice, 1.4x, and abnout 150$
The WCON-8 is .8x and 150$, etc.
Similarly, the wide angle is less good than the D7i. What add-on
lenses are there etc etc?

Thanks for any help that you can provide.

Meyricke
--
Jarett §§ DSC-F707 Lover!
http://www.uglyduck.com
 
Hi!

Try this!

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=3209248

I know little about lens addons at this stage, so will leave that for the others.

Go to the shop and try them both out, see how they feel in your hands.

Catchya!

James.
I have used a Minolta 5000 SLR for 12 years & am going to replace
it with a digital which has similar functionality at a similar
price but at half the weight. I take a mixture of basic holiday
snaps (mainly point & shoot), wildlife shots, good landscapes &
some macros, mainly of valuables for insurance purposes. I also
need some photos for publication on both web sites and newsletters
etc.

The 707 seems to offer most of what I need, has excellent poor
light capabilities & I have been told that it is very simple to use
  • far simpler than the CP 5700 which is another possible. The 707's
zoom, however, is much smaller than the CP5700's, a handicap when I
want to take wildlife shots. What tele lenses can I add to the 707
and what impact do they have on the quality of the images?

Similarly, the wide angle is less good than the D7i. What add-on
lenses are there etc etc?

Thanks for any help that you can provide.

Meyricke
 
Comparing to my SLr's its lighter. Much better, and crisper, even
compared to velvia.

The 5700 is very handicapped, comparing the 707 to the 5700 Zoom
shouldnt be an issue. You can use any teleconvertor/wide on it,
the Olympus line for the E10/20 series are some of the most popular
due to cost, clarity and lack of vignetting and CA.

The TCON-14b is nice, 1.4x, and abnout 150$
The WCON-8 is .8x and 150$, etc.
Pardon my poor maths but what is the approx SLR equivalent of adding one of these lenses to the existing 707 190 lens?

Does having one lens placed on top of another reduce the quality of the image?

Thanks

Meyricke
 
Comparing to my SLr's its lighter. Much better, and crisper, even
compared to velvia.

The 5700 is very handicapped, comparing the 707 to the 5700 Zoom
shouldnt be an issue. You can use any teleconvertor/wide on it,
the Olympus line for the E10/20 series are some of the most popular
due to cost, clarity and lack of vignetting and CA.

The TCON-14b is nice, 1.4x, and abnout 150$
The WCON-8 is .8x and 150$, etc.
Pardon my poor maths but what is the approx SLR equivalent of
adding one of these lenses to the existing 707 190 lens?
I didnt express myself clearly. Yes the 5700 has a slightly longer zoom. But it has other problems that take it out of the running as a prosumer camera. Unfortionately it has a MUCH slower lense, and other faults. (LCD Design, software, flash, moving external zoom lense, 90minutes of battery life)
F2.8 - F4.2? No thank you...
Does having one lens placed on top of another reduce the quality of
the image?
This depends on the teleconvertor. Cheaper-quality Digital/Crystal optics do. The Olympus really dont.

Depends
Thanks

Meyricke
--
Jarett §§ DSC-F707 Lover!
http://www.uglyduck.com
 
Comparing to my SLr's its lighter. Much better, and crisper, even
compared to velvia.

The 5700 is very handicapped, comparing the 707 to the 5700 Zoom
shouldnt be an issue. You can use any teleconvertor/wide on it,
the Olympus line for the E10/20 series are some of the most popular
due to cost, clarity and lack of vignetting and CA.

The TCON-14b is nice, 1.4x, and abnout 150$
The WCON-8 is .8x and 150$, etc.
Pardon my poor maths but what is the approx SLR equivalent of
adding one of these lenses to the existing 707 190 lens?
I didnt express myself clearly. Yes the 5700 has a slightly longer
zoom. But it has other problems that take it out of the running
as a prosumer camera. Unfortionately it has a MUCH slower lense,
and other faults. (LCD Design, software, flash, moving external
zoom lense, 90minutes of battery life)
F2.8 - F4.2? No thank you...
Does having one lens placed on top of another reduce the quality of
the image?
This depends on the teleconvertor. Cheaper-quality Digital/Crystal
optics do. The Olympus really dont.

Depends
Thanks

Meyricke
--
Jarett §§ DSC-F707 Lover!
http://www.uglyduck.com
Once again, thanks
 
Do you have a 5700?

LCD Design: Sure, the FULLY ARTICULATING LCD is terrible ... when I can hold the camera well over my head to take shots and still frame properly. I can take shots around corners .. I can take shots of myself. I can do whatever I want. Does the 707 have this? The little swivel is pretty useless, I found.

Flash: Is VERY powerful (and adjustable!). Has support for standard flashes. Does the 707 have this?

Moving external zoom lense: - vs. the 707's moving internal zoom lense. Big deal. certainly not a major issue. It makes the camera smaller and easier to handle. No difference in picture quality.

Battery life: Could be better -- but, add the battery grip and it can't be beat (600 exposures one charge). For me, the battery life has not become a major limitation.

Software: Works fine?

There are other features that the Nikon has that the sony doesn't. Full control of saturation, sharpening, white balance - Best Shot Select (gives you the power to shoot 1 second exposures without a tripod). Programmable user sets, different metering modes, 8x zoom, realistic colour. 1/4000 second - 5 minute (!!!!!) exposures.

The Sony: Better low-light performance (faster lense). Better resolution - but this has been argued a bit... some of it is due to greater in-camera sharpening (a setting you can adjust on the nikon, but not the sony).

To say it's severly handicapped is completely wrong. If you're interested in the 5700, head over to the nikon forum. Actually, the crowd seems more mature and aren't a bunch of fanboys extolling the virtues of their cameras while ignoring everything else.

I like the 707 -- used it for a bit. I have a DSC-P50 that I was moving up from. But, I concluded that the 5700 was the more 'serious' camera. More features - and would allow me to learn photography better.

Reading these posts, I'm glad I got the nikon -- if only because the forum is better. :
Comparing to my SLr's its lighter. Much better, and crisper, even
compared to velvia.

The 5700 is very handicapped, comparing the 707 to the 5700 Zoom
shouldnt be an issue. You can use any teleconvertor/wide on it,
the Olympus line for the E10/20 series are some of the most popular
due to cost, clarity and lack of vignetting and CA.

The TCON-14b is nice, 1.4x, and abnout 150$
The WCON-8 is .8x and 150$, etc.
Pardon my poor maths but what is the approx SLR equivalent of
adding one of these lenses to the existing 707 190 lens?
I didnt express myself clearly. Yes the 5700 has a slightly longer
zoom. But it has other problems that take it out of the running
as a prosumer camera. Unfortionately it has a MUCH slower lense,
and other faults. (LCD Design, software, flash, moving external
zoom lense, 90minutes of battery life)
F2.8 - F4.2? No thank you...
Does having one lens placed on top of another reduce the quality of
the image?
This depends on the teleconvertor. Cheaper-quality Digital/Crystal
optics do. The Olympus really dont.

Depends
Thanks

Meyricke
--
Jarett §§ DSC-F707 Lover!
http://www.uglyduck.com
 
I didnt express myself clearly. Yes the 5700 has a slightly longer
zoom. But it has other problems that take it out of the running
as a prosumer camera. Unfortionately it has a MUCH slower lense,
and other faults. (LCD Design, software, flash, moving external
zoom lense, 90minutes of battery life)
F2.8 - F4.2? No thank you...
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Jarett §§ DSC-F707 Lover!
http://www.uglyduck.com
wow, you bring up very good points on the CP5700. now i'm more than glad i have my F707.

Ozzie
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Sony F707 user
 
Do you have a 5700?

LCD Design: Sure, the FULLY ARTICULATING LCD is terrible ... when
I can hold the camera well over my head to take shots and still
frame properly. I can take shots around corners .. I can take
shots of myself. I can do whatever I want. Does the 707 have
this? The little swivel is pretty useless, I found.
I've had two Nikons (CoolPix 950 and 990) thinking Nikon has always been the best, yet they both had horrible focusing, dim or bright lighting, didn't matter. It was such a problem that when taking critical photos, before leaving the photo shoot I would have to confirm the images were actually in focus on a laptop I had to take with me just for that purpose.

No matter how many features a camera has or how good its lens is, it is all useless if can't be relied on to take an image that's in focus and from extensive reading of reviews and the Nikon forums and talking with sales staff at the local camera stores that promote Nikon, the 5700 seems to have inherited this legacy of poor focusing. I really wanted a 5700. There were many things about the 5700 I liked, but I just couldn't bring myself to risk a third Nikon having the same problem.

The F707 has yet to give me an out of focus image.

To me, having the best digital image possible for the money is the most important thing. Everything else is secondary.

So before buying my latest camera, I researched Nikon’s 5700, Minolta’s DiMAGE 7i, Sony’s F707, Canon’s D60, Nikon’s D100, and Fuji’s S2. I read every review I could find, analyzed every full resolution image I could download (which for the six cameras now fills a CD), and played with each camera in the camera stores except the S2.

Not surprisingly, the DSLRs produced the best image, but I eventually ruled them out as still being too expensive when I learned the F707 produces images of nearly equal quality. If one of the DSLRs had a 6Mp Foveon sensor, I would have bought it.

Otherwise, for my purposes, the prosumer cameras were my choice and among them, in addition to my fear of Nikon’s continuing focusing issues which fill the Nikon forums, its lens is slower than the F707's and digital imagery needs all the speed it can get and the Nikon’s images weren’t as sharp. This has nothing to do with in-camera sharpening. I LAB sharpened all full resolution files I downloaded to their maximum amount and the Sony F707 produced clearly sharper images. Since everything else is more or less equal, this could only be coming from the lens.

And since, as I said, having the best digital image possible for the money is the most important thing to me, this immediately put the F707 at the top of the heap.

Nikon’s white balance and macro are outstanding but mean nothing if the resulting image lacks the definition achieved by another camera, unless macro is your primary goal.

The Minolta had many features I really liked, particularly the more traditional manual controls, but every image I saw from the camera had pervasive noise to the point of being objectionable to me and had the 5700’s same lack of acute clarity.

So all three prosumer cameras had terrific features and many shortcomings and if you could put all the good features into one camera you’d have one heck of a camera. But short of that, the F707 produced images that were nearly equal to DSLRs, had less image noise, faster lens, and absolutely incredible battery life. It has many features missing in the other cameras and is missing many features found in other cameras, but those I can live without since it gives the best digital image possible for the money.

Gordon
--
No matter where you are...there you are.
 
Similar as you I have used Minolta 5000 for many years. I decided to switch to 707 two months ago. After two months experience I can say - I did not make mistake and results are mouch more better then I expected. I'm still learning, of course. This is my personal opinion.

Peter
I have used a Minolta 5000 SLR for 12 years & am going to replace
it with a digital which has similar functionality at a similar
price but at half the weight. I take a mixture of basic holiday
snaps (mainly point & shoot), wildlife shots, good landscapes &
some macros, mainly of valuables for insurance purposes. I also
need some photos for publication on both web sites and newsletters
etc.

The 707 seems to offer most of what I need, has excellent poor
light capabilities & I have been told that it is very simple to use
  • far simpler than the CP 5700 which is another possible. The 707's
zoom, however, is much smaller than the CP5700's, a handicap when I
want to take wildlife shots. What tele lenses can I add to the 707
and what impact do they have on the quality of the images?

Similarly, the wide angle is less good than the D7i. What add-on
lenses are there etc etc?

Thanks for any help that you can provide.

Meyricke
 
Do you have a 5700?

LCD Design: Sure, the FULLY ARTICULATING LCD is terrible ... when
I can hold the camera well over my head to take shots and still
frame properly. I can take shots around corners .. I can take
shots of myself. I can do whatever I want. Does the 707 have
this? The little swivel is pretty useless, I found.
The pivoting back is far from useless, it allows you to hold the camera over you head or on the ground and frame perfectly. Or around a corner if you frame vertically. I admit I can't use it to frame a self-portrait though, which just breaks my heart. Not.
Flash: Is VERY powerful (and adjustable!). Has support for
standard flashes. Does the 707 have this?
Yes if you spend the money for an adaptor.
Moving external zoom lense: - vs. the 707's moving internal zoom
lense. Big deal. certainly not a major issue. It makes the
camera smaller and easier to handle. No difference in picture
quality.
No filters is a big deal. I'm curious how well the filter adaptor works.
There are other features that the Nikon has that the sony doesn't.
Full control of saturation, sharpening, white balance
The Sony has full control of sharpening and the white balance controls work fine, especially the one-touch manual WB setting.
  • Best Shot
Select (gives you the power to shoot 1 second exposures without a
tripod)
You are dreaming. if you take 50 1 second exposures handheld, all 50 will suck royally. I'd say the best shot select will give you a stop, maybe a stop and a half, tops.

. Programmable user sets,
Nice feature

different metering modes,

So does the Sony

8x
zoom, realistic colour. 1/4000 second - 5 minute (!!!!!) exposures.
Nice features
The Sony: Better low-light performance (faster lense). Better
resolution - but this has been argued a bit... some of it is due
to greater in-camera sharpening (a setting you can adjust on the
nikon, but not the sony).
Wrong. You can adjust this on the Sony. Do you know anything at all about the F707?
To say it's severly handicapped is completely wrong. If you're
interested in the 5700, head over to the nikon forum. Actually,
the crowd seems more mature and aren't a bunch of fanboys extolling
the virtues of their cameras while ignoring everything else.
Except you.
I like the 707 -- used it for a bit. I have a DSC-P50 that I was
moving up from. But, I concluded that the 5700 was the more
'serious' camera. More features - and would allow me to learn
photography better.
That's just silly. You can't even use a filter on the 5700 without getting an adaptors that isn't yet available. How serious is that?

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I'm not sure what to say, here. There really is no direct comparison you can make between the two other than to say "well, both are cameras.."

Buying my F707 gave me pictures that were 10X better than the ones my old Canon A50 would produce. But, the camera and images being that much nicer made me frustrated that they weren't QUITE up to SLR levels. In other words, before, I knew my Canon A50 was a simple point-and-shoot and not meant to be wonderful. The F707, on the other hand, is a GREAT camera but now has me wanting a digital SLR to take care of a few of the issues I have with the F707. I don't know how to explain this.

In the end, the F707 somehow ended up convincing me to buy a 2nd 35mm SLR. The noise in images shot at ISO 400 on the F707, the lack of lens choices, the fact I can choose something like B&W ASA 1600 film for my SLR which isn't a choice on the F707, etc.. So now I'll have one SLR loaded with Fuji Velvia and another loaded with some higher-speed film (400 or faster). Right now, I fill the F707 with shots to see what I can get but, if I capture something worthwhile, I make sure to pull out the SLR and get it on film right away. I still feel things come out looking nicer on film, yet, so I'd rather have those beautiful shots on Velvia or Provia F than my F707's CCD.

Once consumer digital SLR's get full-sized CCDs and possibly higher pixel counts (like 12 or 16 megapixel), I'll be in the market for one. Until then, I may be weighing out the cost of a decent Mamiya, Bronica, or even Hasselblad medium-format system. Also, until then, I'll still consider cameras like the F707 and Nikon 5700 as advanced point-and-shoot cameras.
I have used a Minolta 5000 SLR for 12 years & am going to replace
it with a digital which has similar functionality at a similar
price but at half the weight. I take a mixture of basic holiday
snaps (mainly point & shoot), wildlife shots, good landscapes &
some macros, mainly of valuables for insurance purposes. I also
need some photos for publication on both web sites and newsletters
etc.

The 707 seems to offer most of what I need, has excellent poor
light capabilities & I have been told that it is very simple to use
  • far simpler than the CP 5700 which is another possible. The 707's
zoom, however, is much smaller than the CP5700's, a handicap when I
want to take wildlife shots. What tele lenses can I add to the 707
and what impact do they have on the quality of the images?

Similarly, the wide angle is less good than the D7i. What add-on
lenses are there etc etc?

Thanks for any help that you can provide.

Meyricke
 
I like the 707 -- used it for a bit. I have a DSC-P50 that I was
moving up from. But, I concluded that the 5700 was the more
'serious' camera. More features - and would allow me to learn
photography better.

Reading these posts, I'm glad I got the nikon -- if only because
the forum is better. :
it's good that you are analyzing each camera's features and abilities. It's a wise thing to do when deciding which camera to purchase. I'm just a little baffled as to your conclusions, annointing the 5700 a better camera because it appears more "serious" and the users are a better class of people. I purchased the F707 for it's image quality and price match cost. But each to his own.
--
BillyL
 
I like the 707 -- used it for a bit. I have a DSC-P50 that I was
moving up from. But, I concluded that the 5700 was the more
'serious' camera. More features - and would allow me to learn
photography better.

Reading these posts, I'm glad I got the nikon -- if only because
the forum is better. :
it's good that you are analyzing each camera's features and
abilities. It's a wise thing to do when deciding which camera to
purchase. I'm just a little baffled as to your conclusions,
annointing the 5700 a better camera because it appears more
"serious" and the users are a better class of people. I purchased
the F707 for it's image quality and price match cost. But each to
his own.
--
BillyL
I don't really want to argue every little point, but I should mention:

Where I am , the 707 was actually more than the 5700. The little jibe about the group of users, was just that. The colloquialism 'if only because' - meaning - all else being equal.
 
Here we go! :)

Really - the only thing I want to accomplish here is to say that the 5700 is hardly handicapped and deserves to be looked at. Everyone has different photography needs, and different cameras suit different people better. That said :
Do you have a 5700?

LCD Design: Sure, the FULLY ARTICULATING LCD is terrible ... when
I can hold the camera well over my head to take shots and still
frame properly. I can take shots around corners .. I can take
shots of myself. I can do whatever I want. Does the 707 have
this? The little swivel is pretty useless, I found.
The pivoting back is far from useless, it allows you to hold the
camera over you head or on the ground and frame perfectly. Or
around a corner if you frame vertically. I admit I can't use it to
frame a self-portrait though, which just breaks my heart. Not.
No. The pivot angle, combined with inherent miserable LCD viewing angle means that you can't even - for example, put the camera near to the ground without getting down with it to frame a shot.

I admit it's not useless - anything is better than nothing! -- but it's vastly outdone here. To admit otherwise is a little silly.
Flash: Is VERY powerful (and adjustable!). Has support for
standard flashes. Does the 707 have this?
Yes if you spend the money for an adaptor.
Okay.
Moving external zoom lense: - vs. the 707's moving internal zoom
lense. Big deal. certainly not a major issue. It makes the
camera smaller and easier to handle. No difference in picture
quality.
No filters is a big deal. I'm curious how well the filter adaptor
works.
Why wouldn't it work? As long as it's flush with the lense and secure, it will be okay. The lense cap firmly stays on - no reason why a filter shouldn't. There is also a screw-in tube that can be purchased for this purpose.
There are other features that the Nikon has that the sony doesn't.
Full control of saturation, sharpening, white balance
The Sony has full control of sharpening and the white balance
controls work fine, especially the one-touch manual WB setting.
I was just listing examples - should I list more? > 128 mb support, great continuous mode, robust bracketing...
  • Best Shot
Select (gives you the power to shoot 1 second exposures without a
tripod)
You are dreaming. if you take 50 1 second exposures handheld, all
50 will suck royally. I'd say the best shot select will give you a
stop, maybe a stop and a half, tops.
Have you tried? I have a decently steady hand... and somehow it finds one shot where I was between jittering. It's a great feature.
. Programmable user sets,
Nice feature

different metering modes,

So does the Sony

8x
zoom, realistic colour. 1/4000 second - 5 minute (!!!!!) exposures.
Nice features
The Sony: Better low-light performance (faster lense). Better
resolution - but this has been argued a bit... some of it is due
to greater in-camera sharpening (a setting you can adjust on the
nikon, but not the sony).
Wrong. You can adjust this on the Sony. Do you know anything at
all about the F707?
Hey, I'll concede -- I'm not an expert. Nor are you about the 5700.
To say it's severly handicapped is completely wrong. If you're
interested in the 5700, head over to the nikon forum. Actually,
the crowd seems more mature and aren't a bunch of fanboys extolling
the virtues of their cameras while ignoring everything else.
Except you.
I like the 707 -- used it for a bit. I have a DSC-P50 that I was
moving up from. But, I concluded that the 5700 was the more
'serious' camera. More features - and would allow me to learn
photography better.
That's just silly. You can't even use a filter on the 5700 without
getting an adaptors that isn't yet available. How serious is that?
The adaptors are currently available.

There are some issuses about AF speed - which have mostly been resolved.

Fact is - the 5700 is really a complex camera with a steep learning curve. The nikon forum has some kind of new discoveries/workarounds, etc. posted every day regarding all of the issues with it. (anyways, I like learning)

To me, the Nikon's pictures look more realistic than the 707s. This is mostly due to the colour differences I guess - and they have plenty of detail (I have not been dissapointed with my 8x10s!).

Yes, the Sony has slightly higher resolution and has a faster lense -- but again, this is only a big issue when it's dark - and with features like Best Shot Select - it does help to compensate.

The 707 is a terrific camera! I'm not slagging it at all - I think it's a great camera.

Prospective buyers should look at both and see which meets their needs best. But they SHOULD look at both.
 
Also,
until then, I'll still consider cameras like the F707 and Nikon
5700 as advanced point-and-shoot cameras.
People say this as though the worst possible insult to a camera is that you can shoot a picture after pointing it somewhere.

There are a hardcore group of film camera enthusiasts using Contax G series cameras. The G series is essentially a "point and shoot" camera with an outstanding Carl Zeiss lens. The hardcore G series people think they get way better photos using them than they did with their SLRs.

So yes, the Sony F707 is more like a Contax G series camera than an SLR camera. But that doesn't mean that the F707 is not a serious camera.
 
lol....Contax G series is neither inferior to slrs nor a point & shoot. They are professional rangefinder cameras which pros choose over slrs for very fast response time (shutter lag, no mirror folding etc etc.), very quiet whisper shutter (no mirror slap again), no image degradation due to mirror vibration and better wide angle capability with least distortion. They fall short for telephoto use however.

F707 is a serious camera for sure, I only wish its response time and autofocus lag improves from the level or P&S cameras to the level of at least consumer level slrs (additionally I'd prefer more command dials than cumbersome menu driven manual controls) to justify its price.
Also,
until then, I'll still consider cameras like the F707 and Nikon
5700 as advanced point-and-shoot cameras.
People say this as though the worst possible insult to a camera is
that you can shoot a picture after pointing it somewhere.

There are a hardcore group of film camera enthusiasts using Contax
G series cameras. The G series is essentially a "point and shoot"
camera with an outstanding Carl Zeiss lens. The hardcore G series
people think they get way better photos using them than they did
with their SLRs.

So yes, the Sony F707 is more like a Contax G series camera than an
SLR camera. But that doesn't mean that the F707 is not a serious
camera.
 
No. The pivot angle, combined with inherent miserable LCD viewing
angle means that you can't even - for example, put the camera near
to the ground without getting down with it to frame a shot.
Well I never was able to shoot from the ground without bending down anyway. My hands have to hold the camera and press the shutter. Unless you are talking about using a mini-tripod and remote release.
The adaptors are currently available.

There are some issuses about AF speed - which have mostly been
resolved.
From what I hear on the Nikon board, a bunch of the AF issues are not resolved at all. Many people have a terrible time with the AF system and claim it takes a long time and fails frequently regardless of what modes the camera is put into.
Fact is - the 5700 is really a complex camera with a steep learning
curve. The nikon forum has some kind of new
discoveries/workarounds, etc. posted every day regarding all of the
issues with it. (anyways, I like learning)

To me, the Nikon's pictures look more realistic than the 707s.
This is mostly due to the colour differences I guess - and they
have plenty of detail (I have not been dissapointed with my 8x10s!).
It's a piece of cake to change the Sony's saturation profile when loading into photoshop if you want less saturation.
Prospective buyers should look at both and see which meets their
needs best. But they SHOULD look at both.
Sure, no disagreement there.

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lol....Contax G series is neither inferior to slrs nor a point &
shoot. They are professional rangefinder cameras which pros choose
over slrs for very fast response time (shutter lag, no mirror
folding etc etc.), very quiet whisper shutter (no mirror slap
again), no image degradation due to mirror vibration and better
wide angle capability with least distortion. They fall short for
telephoto use however.
F707 is a serious camera for sure, I only wish its response time
and autofocus lag improves from the level or P&S cameras to the
level of at least consumer level slrs (additionally I'd prefer more
command dials than cumbersome menu driven manual controls) to
justify its price.
What do you have to adjust frequently from the menus?

The only thing I have to adjust from the menus very often is the ISO, but the Sony stays on the last menu item so adjusting ISO is one button press away, then move ISO up or down.

The rest of the relevant controls for me (Macro, flash, EV, Shot mode, aperture, shutter, WB, metering mode, AF/MF and more) all have their own buttons and dials to select.
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lol....Contax G series is neither inferior to slrs nor a point &
shoot. They are professional rangefinder cameras which pros choose
over slrs for very fast response time (shutter lag, no mirror
folding etc etc.), very quiet whisper shutter (no mirror slap
again), no image degradation due to mirror vibration and better
wide angle capability with least distortion. They fall short for
telephoto use however.
I've never actually seen a G series camera up close. But as I understand it, they are fully automatic, and they aren't really "rangefinders" at all, you have to use the autofocus on them. Sounds like "point and shoot" to me.

But if you want the sharpest lens possible on a 35mm camera, the G1 at only $750 for the camera WITH a 45mm lens, it's an incredible bargain.

(Hmmmm.... nah I have better things to waste my money on... on the other hand... nah I can't go back to film.)
 

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