Ottawa Transit photo gets you arrested

This really has nothing to do with photography; she was trespassing,
No, she wasn't, that's the whole point. The two people with her plead not guilty and the charges were dropped. She screwed up, failed to appear, and was convicted in absentia.
got caught
doing nothing illegal
and seemed to have a snotty attitude about it too.
Which isn't a crime (lucky for you).
I
wouldnt want someone in my backyard doing anything, esp. taking
photos.
Even if she had been on transit company property... premises open to the public are not the same--legally or morally--as a personal backyard.
 
If you read the article, she was arrested for failure answer questions or show ID. As long as a police officer has "reasonable suspicion" that something illicit may be going on, they are allowed to conduct and investigation. If you do not cooperate with that investigation, you can be arrested.

To top that off, she was likely told to leave the property after the first confrontation. Instead, she then moved to a more secluded location of the property. Failure to comply with the first request to leave is also illegal.

It would be nice of these so called 'reporters' would take the time to get the police report and present both sides.
 
This really has nothing to do with photography; she was trespassing,
No, she wasn't, that's the whole point. The two people with her plead
not guilty and the charges were dropped. She screwed up, failed to
appear, and was convicted in absentia.
No big deal. For minor bylaw infractions against young ppl, the charges are for the most part always dropped.. IF you show up... its mostly used to teach ppl not to do it again.

If you dont show up, the default is a conviction meaning there was a basis for the original charge.. ie. she was tresspassing.
got caught
doing nothing illegal
Not illegal in the sense of murder.. just a bylaw infraction in this case.
and seemed to have a snotty attitude about it too.
Which isn't a crime (lucky for you).
I
wouldnt want someone in my backyard doing anything, esp. taking
photos.
Even if she had been on transit company property... premises open to
the public are not the same--legally or morally--as a personal
backyard.
 
to me it sounds like a a bunch of smart alec kids.

rule 1
never argue with the cops even if u'r right

rule 2
refer to 1 if in doubt
 
This really has nothing to do with photography; she was trespassing,
got caught and seemed to have a snotty attitude about it too. I
wouldnt want someone in my backyard doing anything, esp. taking
+1

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Phil M. - Toronto, Canada

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I am getting the distinct impression that a lot (not all) of the folks commenting on this story haven't bothered reading the complete story, otherwise it's hard to explain the large amount of downright stupid comments.

So lets recap the story in a distilled easy to understand form: The girl in question was NOT on OC Transpo property or hiding (eg a bus depot etc); but merely crossed an OC Transpo road (called the Transitway). This Transitway is a buses only road, that's all (and last time I checked, crossing a road was still legal). Someone who has read the story would also know that she was with her friends on NCC land (that's parkland administered by the National Capital Comission) photographing the buses driving by. Hence the OC Transpo officer had absolutely no authority there and was wayyyyyyyyyyyys out of line (you can't simply arrest someone for trespassing just for standing next door). That the kids consequently moved a little further away to avoid any more trouble with more officers on a Red Bull trip is totally understandable. The article also mentions that photographing buses for personal use is LEGAL (citing a bylaw).

My own guess (I attended the photo course at the same college many years ago) is that the girl's assignment was on "camera and subject movement" (panning and such). The date of the conviction in absentia is interesting though - December 21st. By that time, many student's have long left the college and are celebrating Christmas with their families at home.
 
I have read the articles.

First : I believe the young people were mouthy and thats what caused the confrontation.

Second: The security force was very overzealous and I am disappointed that this ocurred in Canada. The arrest should never have ocurred.

Third: The young lady was informed of a court day and she ignored it by making the wrong assumptions.
A little respect on everyones part would have avoided this whole problem.
I am getting the distinct impression that a lot (not all) of the
folks commenting on this story haven't bothered reading the complete
story, otherwise it's hard to explain the large amount of downright
stupid comments.
So lets recap the story in a distilled easy to understand form: The
girl in question was NOT on OC Transpo property or hiding (eg a bus
depot etc); but merely crossed an OC Transpo road (called the
Transitway). This Transitway is a buses only road, that's all (and
last time I checked, crossing a road was still legal). Someone who
has read the story would also know that she was with her friends on
NCC land (that's parkland administered by the National Capital
Comission) photographing the buses driving by. Hence the OC Transpo
officer had absolutely no authority there and was wayyyyyyyyyyyys out
of line (you can't simply arrest someone for trespassing just for
standing next door). That the kids consequently moved a little
further away to avoid any more trouble with more officers on a Red
Bull trip is totally understandable. The article also mentions that
photographing buses for personal use is LEGAL (citing a bylaw).
My own guess (I attended the photo course at the same college many
years ago) is that the girl's assignment was on "camera and subject
movement" (panning and such). The date of the conviction in absentia
is interesting though - December 21st. By that time, many student's
have long left the college and are celebrating Christmas with their
families at home.
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If you go into Home Depot and someone offers to help you and he is not an employee, you are in Canada :-)

Since we can't keep crime in check, why don't we legalize it and tax it out of business?
 
she was taking phots for a school project ..waahts the big deal ... she had the unfortunate experience of running into a RENT A COP ..security guard that probably didnt cut the mustard to be a real police officer in any force but still believes he/she is .. like they so many times do ... she was not on transit property when the second confrontation took place ....the rent a cop was wrong ..she may have refused to provide him with ID ... it is absolutley none of his business who she is when A) has not yet been arrested ...B)is no longer trespasing and is not on transit property ... and C) ll she is legally required to do untill provided with legal councel is provide a name ... so for all the non lawyers thats the reality ...
 
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If you go into Home Depot and someone offers to help you and he is not an employee, you are in Canada :-)

Since we can't keep crime in check, why don't we legalize it and tax it out of business?
 
I am getting the distinct impression that a lot (not all) of the
folks commenting on this story haven't bothered reading the complete
story, otherwise it's hard to explain the large amount of downright
stupid comments.
mea culpa
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Phil M. - Toronto, Canada

If you have some time to chew on a few of my photos, please go to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12624630@N02/
 
A quote from an article.

"Thompson-Walker was arrested, manhandled and handcuffed by OC Transpo Special Const. Chris Villeneuve,"
she was taking phots for a school project ..waahts the big deal ...
she had the unfortunate experience of running into a RENT A COP
..security guard that probably didnt cut the mustard to be a real
police officer in any force but still believes he/she is .. like they
so many times do ... she was not on transit property when the second
confrontation took place ....the rent a cop was wrong ..she may have
refused to provide him with ID ... it is absolutley none of his
business who she is when A) has not yet been arrested ...B)is no
longer trespasing and is not on transit property ... and C) ll she is
legally required to do untill provided with legal councel is provide
a name ... so for all the non lawyers thats the reality ...
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If you go into Home Depot and someone offers to help you and he is not an employee, you are in Canada :-)

Since we can't keep crime in check, why don't we legalize it and tax it out of business?
 
Perhaps I should have said Mutual Respect.
The attitude of some young people is to disrespect their elders.
Yes respect even for an individual and an understanding of individual
rights goes even longer.
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If you go into Home Depot and someone offers to help you and he is not an employee, you are in Canada :-)

Since we can't keep crime in check, why don't we legalize it and tax it out of business?
 
I read your reply several times and I have no answer.
Since we can't keep crime in check, why don't we legalize it and tax
it out of business?
If you tax crime out of business, then the only people committing
crimes would be criminals.

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If you go into Home Depot and someone offers to help you and he is not an employee, you are in Canada :-)

Since we can't keep crime in check, why don't we legalize it and tax it out of business?
 

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