S602 Focusing Question

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I have noticed that I cannot manually focus an image as sharp as the auto focus on my S602. I tried a number of time in different lighting situations to manually focus the camera (on the assumption that I would get superior results to auto focusing) and auto focusing is sharper every time.

I have used the focus check button and have even tried zooming in on the subject, focusing then zooming back out to the desired focal length. I get ok results doing this, but auto focusing almost always results in tack sharp focus.

It's great that the auto focus works so well, but I wonder why I can't at least do as well (or even a little better) when focusing manually.

The one thing I've noticed is that instead of having one precise focus point where the subject is razor sharp, there is a fairly wide range of focus. This, I suspect, is due to the low-res EVF.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, what tricks do you use to get very sharp manually focused subjects?

Bob Reed
 
Bob, I don't have an answer, but do have the same issues, auto always beats me, and is very fast, where my manual attempts takes a while and isn't as good.
So, how do all you experts out there do it so well and so often?
I have noticed that I cannot manually focus an image as sharp as
the auto focus on my S602. I tried a number of time in different
lighting situations to manually focus the camera (on the assumption
that I would get superior results to auto focusing) and auto
focusing is sharper every time.

I have used the focus check button and have even tried zooming in
on the subject, focusing then zooming back out to the desired focal
length. I get ok results doing this, but auto focusing almost
always results in tack sharp focus.

It's great that the auto focus works so well, but I wonder why I
can't at least do as well (or even a little better) when focusing
manually.

The one thing I've noticed is that instead of having one precise
focus point where the subject is razor sharp, there is a fairly
wide range of focus. This, I suspect, is due to the low-res EVF.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, what tricks do you use to
get very sharp manually focused subjects?

Bob Reed
 
I have noticed that I cannot manually focus an image as sharp as
the auto focus on my S602. I tried a number of time in different
lighting situations to manually focus the camera (on the assumption
that I would get superior results to auto focusing) and auto
focusing is sharper every time.

I have used the focus check button and have even tried zooming in
on the subject, focusing then zooming back out to the desired focal
length. I get ok results doing this, but auto focusing almost
always results in tack sharp focus.

It's great that the auto focus works so well, but I wonder why I
can't at least do as well (or even a little better) when focusing
manually.

The one thing I've noticed is that instead of having one precise
focus point where the subject is razor sharp, there is a fairly
wide range of focus. This, I suspect, is due to the low-res EVF.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, what tricks do you use to
get very sharp manually focused subjects?

Bob Reed
--Add me to the list. I put a comment up on Crashers race photos to the effect that his posted shots always seem perfectly in focus, and if I'm not mistaken I think he once stated that he always uses manual focus. What's the secret Crasher?
Easy Ed
 
I have noticed that I cannot manually focus an image as sharp as
the auto focus on my S602. I tried a number of time in different
lighting situations to manually focus the camera (on the assumption
that I would get superior results to auto focusing) and auto
focusing is sharper every time.

I have used the focus check button and have even tried zooming in
on the subject, focusing then zooming back out to the desired focal
length. I get ok results doing this, but auto focusing almost
always results in tack sharp focus.

It's great that the auto focus works so well, but I wonder why I
can't at least do as well (or even a little better) when focusing
manually.

The one thing I've noticed is that instead of having one precise
focus point where the subject is razor sharp, there is a fairly
wide range of focus. This, I suspect, is due to the low-res EVF.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, what tricks do you use to
get very sharp manually focused subjects?

Bob Reed
--Sorry Chrasher - should have checked the spelling first!
Easy Ed
 
Bob,

My experience with the manual focus is identical to yours, camera beats me every time.

But, under low lighting conditions the camera produces erratic focusing results. When I run into these situations it would be great to be able to manually focus the camera.

My line of reasoning, learn to use the manual focus under normal lighting condtions. Then, when I encouter a situation where the camera won't focus I am experienced enough with the manual focus to produce a good shot.

I guess this is the motivation for a lot of 602 owner trying to use the manual focus. I have tried a number of tips suggested by other forum members, such as, concentrate on a line in the subject or focus on something behind you subject. So far no luck. Anyone else have a suggestion?

--
Regards,
Ben

You are not what you own.
C-2100, Fuji S602, and a 20 year old Mamiya film camera.
 
I have noticed that I cannot manually focus an image as sharp as
the auto focus on my S602. I tried a number of time in different
lighting situations to manually focus the camera (on the assumption
that I would get superior results to auto focusing) and auto
focusing is sharper every time.

I have used the focus check button and have even tried zooming in
on the subject, focusing then zooming back out to the desired focal
length. I get ok results doing this, but auto focusing almost
always results in tack sharp focus.

It's great that the auto focus works so well, but I wonder why I
can't at least do as well (or even a little better) when focusing
manually.

The one thing I've noticed is that instead of having one precise
focus point where the subject is razor sharp, there is a fairly
wide range of focus. This, I suspect, is due to the low-res EVF.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, what tricks do you use to
get very sharp manually focused subjects?

Bob Reed
Bob, I always set the cam to manual focus, but that doesn't mean you only can use the focus-ring. Just hit the quickfocus-button and let the S602 do the hard work. Only in very low light (ISO200, F2.8, 1/5s or lower) my cam is beginning to have some trouble to focus correctly. But that also depends on the object.
With autofocus on you will always lose valuable time with action-shots.

--
Chris H.

Fuji Finepix 4900,6900(had a great time with both) and now a S602 + B300, Metz 28-C2.
 
Bob, I always set the cam to manual focus, but that doesn't mean
you only can use the focus-ring. Just hit the quickfocus-button and
let the S602 do the hard work. Only in very low light (ISO200,
F2.8, 1/5s or lower) my cam is beginning to have some trouble to
focus correctly. But that also depends on the object.
With autofocus on you will always lose valuable time with
action-shots.

--
Chris H.
I agree with Chris on this. I too had a lot of trouble trying to manually focus on various objects. While taking portraits of my daughter I realized that I wasn't always able to get manual focus indicators to display so began using the quick-focus button and found the results were fantastic. In very difficult situations I also utilize the focus check button and this seems to help when attempting manual focus.

Does anyone else have trouble getting manual focus indicators to display? Is it low light situations which causes this? Also, does anyone have a tip for knowing when your cameras focus is set to infinety. It would sure be nice if there was a indication on screen.

Thanks,

ktj
 
Bob, I always set the cam to manual focus, but that doesn't mean
you only can use the focus-ring. Just hit the quickfocus-button and
let the S602 do the hard work. Only in very low light (ISO200,
F2.8, 1/5s or lower) my cam is beginning to have some trouble to
focus correctly. But that also depends on the object.
With autofocus on you will always lose valuable time with
action-shots.

--
Chris H.
I agree with Chris on this. I too had a lot of trouble trying to
manually focus on various objects. While taking portraits of my
daughter I realized that I wasn't always able to get manual focus
indicators to display so began using the quick-focus button and
found the results were fantastic. In very difficult situations I
also utilize the focus check button and this seems to help when
attempting manual focus.

Does anyone else have trouble getting manual focus indicators to
display? Is it low light situations which causes this? Also, does
anyone have a tip for knowing when your cameras focus is set to
infinety. It would sure be nice if there was a indication on
screen.

Thanks,

ktj
How do you manual focus to infinite ?

Lélio de Almeida
Portugal

http://www.pbase.com/leoal
 
this isnt the best answer but...

turn the ring clockwise until it stops making noise (its only changing the focus when you hear that noise, its not a true focus ring, its 'forcus by wire' or something like that)

then turn the ring back counter clockwise a tiny bit, and look to see if things are in focus

this is as good an answer i can come up with, and unfortunately i dont think there are any perfect and definite solutions to this problem

--
http://www.pbase.com/xx573v3xx
Fuji Finepix S602 zoom
 
this isnt the best answer but...

turn the ring clockwise until it stops making noise (its only
changing the focus when you hear that noise, its not a true focus
ring, its 'forcus by wire' or something like that)

then turn the ring back counter clockwise a tiny bit, and look to
see if things are in focus

this is as good an answer i can come up with, and unfortunately i
dont think there are any perfect and definite solutions to this
problem

--
http://www.pbase.com/xx573v3xx
Fuji Finepix S602 zoom
Sounds good. I'll give it a try.

Thanks!
 
When you say "clockwise" do you mean from the perspective of looking into the lens or from the back of the cam?

-marius
this isnt the best answer but...

turn the ring clockwise until it stops making noise (its only
changing the focus when you hear that noise, its not a true focus
ring, its 'forcus by wire' or something like that)

then turn the ring back counter clockwise a tiny bit, and look to
see if things are in focus

this is as good an answer i can come up with, and unfortunately i
dont think there are any perfect and definite solutions to this
problem

--
http://www.pbase.com/xx573v3xx
Fuji Finepix S602 zoom
 
from the perspective of you using the camera, from behind it
-marius
this isnt the best answer but...

turn the ring clockwise until it stops making noise (its only
changing the focus when you hear that noise, its not a true focus
ring, its 'forcus by wire' or something like that)

then turn the ring back counter clockwise a tiny bit, and look to
see if things are in focus

this is as good an answer i can come up with, and unfortunately i
dont think there are any perfect and definite solutions to this
problem

--
http://www.pbase.com/xx573v3xx
Fuji Finepix S602 zoom
--
steve
http://www.pbase.com/xx573v3xx
Fuji Finepix S602 zoom
 
Thanks to all of you for the advice.

Thanks to you too Phil for hosting this site.

This forum is really invaluable.

Bob
I have noticed that I cannot manually focus an image as sharp as
the auto focus on my S602. I tried a number of time in different
lighting situations to manually focus the camera (on the assumption
that I would get superior results to auto focusing) and auto
focusing is sharper every time.

I have used the focus check button and have even tried zooming in
on the subject, focusing then zooming back out to the desired focal
length. I get ok results doing this, but auto focusing almost
always results in tack sharp focus.

It's great that the auto focus works so well, but I wonder why I
can't at least do as well (or even a little better) when focusing
manually.

The one thing I've noticed is that instead of having one precise
focus point where the subject is razor sharp, there is a fairly
wide range of focus. This, I suspect, is due to the low-res EVF.

Has anyone else noticed this and, if so, what tricks do you use to
get very sharp manually focused subjects?

Bob Reed
Bob, I always set the cam to manual focus, but that doesn't mean
you only can use the focus-ring. Just hit the quickfocus-button and
let the S602 do the hard work. Only in very low light (ISO200,
F2.8, 1/5s or lower) my cam is beginning to have some trouble to
focus correctly. But that also depends on the object.
With autofocus on you will always lose valuable time with
action-shots.

--
Chris H.

Fuji Finepix 4900,6900(had a great time with both) and now a S602 +
B300, Metz 28-C2.
 
...and have even tried zooming in
on the subject, focusing then zooming back out to the desired focal
length.
With this method you won't get the correct focus for sure. The lenses of digicams don't hold the focus point while zooming like the zoom lenses of film slr's. Every time you change the focal length, you have to refocus.
Heinz
 
...and have even tried zooming in
on the subject, focusing then zooming back out to the desired focal
length.
With this method you won't get the correct focus for sure. The
lenses of digicams don't hold the focus point while zooming like
the zoom lenses of film slr's. Every time you change the focal
length, you have to refocus.
Heinz
I've have tried the same process with limited success. Is your comment true of all digicams? I've never seen anything that addressed the need to refocus after zooming.
 

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