Oly version of the G1

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It is my understanding that Olympus plans a summer / fall versions of their Micro4/3 line up which is to include a more traditional DSLR version for end of the year release.

I've handled the G1, 620, and the K200D.

I liked the K200D, but for the price and the age I expect a new one this year.

The G1 felt great, but the lack of lenses and unknown price of future lenses not to mention no in body IS left me wanting

The 620 viewfinder while smaller is something I could get used too, I just had a hard time holding the thing. I like to have my right hand filled and it felt cramped and uncomfortable.

Sadly I guess the camera i want isn't quite out yet lol ....

The question I is are we sure they are bringing out their own G1 Olympus style with in body IS or is this summer compact going to be it?
 
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All the rumors seem to indicate that Olympus will not use D-SLR styling in either model. The fall/winter model will be more advanced than the first model, but don't expect an SLR-like hump. Look at the old Olympus Pen series. That seems to be the inspiration.
 
That is quite the bummer
 
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Perhaps, but you shouldn't be surprised. Olympus has always considered m43 as an upgrade from point and shoot cameras, no matter how many people here say that's not how they intend to use it. Panasonic, on the other hand, has all but abandoned D-SLR's. The G1-GH1 will be their flagship. Olympus is coming at this from a different direction.
 
Unless I'm mistaken, there is a rumor floating around that Panny is also coming up with a rangefinder styled (body) m43 camera to be announced either late this year or early next year. Course this is a rumor that should be taken with a healthy dose of salt...
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Perhaps, but you shouldn't be surprised. Olympus has always
considered m43 as an upgrade from point and shoot cameras, no matter
how many people here say that's not how they intend to use it.
Panasonic, on the other hand, has all but abandoned D-SLR's. The
G1-GH1 will be their flagship. Olympus is coming at this from a
different direction.
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Why? Many of us don't want the new cameras to look like a DSLR.
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I'm not saying that the one to be shown in June to be a DSLR like. With the current G1 and the new GH1 it only makes sense to offer a compact. I was just hoping that they would offer both styles towards the end of the year.
 
I have an E-330. It looks like a brick/rangefinder, but it's a DSLR. I prefer it to a pentahump style, so I purchased it. When the Olympus m4/3 body comes out, I am already convinced I will purchase it.

You like the GH1. It looks like a DSLR, but it's not. You prefer it to bricks, so go buy it.

Panasonic's GH1 has more to do with making it look similar to the FZ series these bodies replace. I have an FZ5 that is essentially the same look, only tinier. This is Panasonic's style.

Olympus has pentahump bodies because they have pentaprisms/mirror in them. The SLRs they made that did not use it, like my E-330, did not have that look. Olympus' style is not wedded to looking like an SLR. If anything, they love to buck the trend (that digital Stylus when it first came out was so nutty looking, but boy was it trendy). If you expect them to come out with an SLR-looking m4/3 body... prepare to be disappointed.
 
A bummer only if you've never held a Pen F.
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You sem to be looking for a bigger grip on a small camera. Don't know if there is such right now, other than the 520. Maybe there will be a new replacement for the 520 coming soon with a fold out rear screen.

Dreamers here wish for a K7 clone from Oly - size, seals and frame. That would ideal - for sure.
It is my understanding that Olympus plans a summer / fall versions of
their Micro4/3 line up which is to include a more traditional DSLR
version for end of the year release.

I've handled the G1, 620, and the K200D.

I liked the K200D, but for the price and the age I expect a new one
this year.

The G1 felt great, but the lack of lenses and unknown price of future
lenses not to mention no in body IS left me wanting

The 620 viewfinder while smaller is something I could get used too, I
just had a hard time holding the thing. I like to have my right hand
filled and it felt cramped and uncomfortable.

Sadly I guess the camera i want isn't quite out yet lol ....

The question I is are we sure they are bringing out their own G1
Olympus style with in body IS or is this summer compact going to be
it?
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That would be nice. I think I will wait a few months and see if I can get the E-30 for around 750$ It really seems to have hit that middle ground between weight and feel.
 
Olympus has dSLRs and small ones too. I wouldn't hold my breath on a faux-dSLR style micro 4/3rds from them. I think that is going to be Panny land.

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I dont understand why people are wasting time on topics that nobody knows for sure. Only rumors exist about m4/3 till now. We can wait for just one more month to know everything about what Oly is planning. Perhaps the future of m4/3 will be so bright that oly may come up with several different designs and functions. But for now you cant say anything about it.

And I am quite perplexed about your real question. If you are worried about grip then there is E-30 with in body IS, but if you are worried about weight then there is e520 with in body IS....

But if you want something in m4/3, then I really dont understand whats the real benefit you are looking for. The only advantage of m4/3 is that the camera will be smaller and lighter. There is no point for oly to make something like G1 which is only marginally smaller than e620. On the other hand Panny currently doesn't have anything in the dslr market and thats the reason why they came up with G1 with a style similar to dslr.

I know that everybody wants to buy into the latest model and technology. But it isn't that the camera that you want is not yet out. The fact is that you will never get satisfied.

NB- I think m4/3 currently are not a match to conventional dslr in terms of speed. And speed is one of the main reason why people opt for DSLR. correct me if I am wrong!
 
People were able to hold cameras before the need for large power supplies forced designers to put in swollen hand holds.

With the 620 and 420 the manual actually advises that you do most of the camera support with the left hand craddling the lens.

Otherwise if you insist on having a bulbous grip then forget about getting a truely compact camera. The Olympus M4/3 mock up is totally streamlined body as if meant to go in a pocket (largish)- the top dial and hot shoe are flush to the top plate to avoid snagging.

If you want humps and grips go Panasonic or C or N or P or S - if you want a true compact the Olympus is your best bet and you may have to change your habits!
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NB- I think m4/3 currently are not a match to conventional dslr in
terms of speed. And speed is one of the main reason why people opt
for DSLR. correct me if I am wrong!
Urr..I would hazard it's a photo's IQ and not speed....
but that's just me

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My cameras TZ3, recently broken Konica Auto S2, recently bought K1000



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I dont understand why people are wasting time on topics that nobody
knows for sure. Only rumors exist about m4/3 till now. We can wait
for just one more month to know everything about what Oly is
planning. Perhaps the future of m4/3 will be so bright that oly may
come up with several different designs and functions. But for now you
cant say anything about it.
--Wasting time on topics we know nothing about? Well Olympus officially has had a model on display for over 8 months and they say their first m4/3 will be similar size and shape? Oly has indicated they want the rectangular shape and second model will be more featured. As all Oly DSLRs have traditional shape the above is not at all hard to deduct likewise Pany has indicated their new m4/3 will be compact shape again not at all surprising given its LC1 and L1 heritage?

The main reason Pany chose the SLR shape for G1 was for very practical reasons, to obtain sufficient space for large EVF probably not feasible to fit on rangefinder stlye without being just as big and has nothing to do with either copying the FZ28 or L10 or DSLRs.
And I am quite perplexed about your real question. If you are worried
about grip then there is E-30 with in body IS, but if you are worried
about weight then there is e520 with in body IS....
But if you want something in m4/3, then I really dont understand
whats the real benefit you are looking for. The only advantage of
m4/3 is that the camera will be smaller and lighter. There is no
point for oly to make something like G1 which is only marginally
smaller than e620. On the other hand Panny currently doesn't have
anything in the dslr market and thats the reason why they came up
with G1 with a style similar to dslr.
I know that everybody wants to buy into the latest model and
technology. But it isn't that the camera that you want is not yet
out. The fact is that you will never get satisfied.
-- I would think by now people would be getting a little tired hearing the same old false claim that G1 is only marginally smaller than E 420 or E620, when the statistics show its volume is 30% less which is quite substantial not to mention that is kit lens is much smaller? In turn the carrot sized Oly box sans any EVF will be another 30% smaller. I wish people would stop calling the G1 big as obviously they have never had one in their hands to judge or they could not honestly make that claim in the first place.

Make no mistake Pany will also have a smaller rangefinder model out by end of year but likely larger than Oly first model because of in body EVF but may launch a suprise smaller one themselves earlier, we don't know.

I do fully agree with your last paragraph that rather than chasing after the latest model, people should concentrate on using and enjoying what they have if it will fill their needs. However the recent inovations such as m4/3 rds as well as the pro downsized K7 or E620 in conventional DSLRs are exciting developments which we can all enjoy knowing more about.
NB- I think m4/3 currently are not a match to conventional dslr in
terms of speed. And speed is one of the main reason why people opt
for DSLR. correct me if I am wrong!
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--Depends on what you mean by speed? Certainly the m4/3 format brings the potential of very fast speedy primes much smaller than those the DSLRs just look at the Pany 20/1.7 due out soon and most primes used on DSLRs are full frame as only recently a few specifically designed for cropped ASP-C format? Certainly smaller faster wide to normal zooms will be feasible with m4/3 in the future?

If you're referring to live view speed then no other DSLR matches the G1 as both all Canons, Nikons, and Pentax live views are much slower while E620 and Sonys are better but still slower the G1?

If your referring to shutter burst speed well the G1 3 frames/sec is what most DSLRs provide while newer Canon T1i does 3.4 fps and Nikon D5000 does 4 fps. But wait the new GH1 likely soon successor to G1 does 6 fps in 6 mp mode if only 2 fps in 12 mp?

Even when it comes to autofocus speeds the G1 is as fast as most in good lighting, faster than the slowest in low light, but not as fast as N/C in very low light. If you compare manual focus ability with high rez EVF the G1 is faster than all of them in low light. Certainly the upper end N/C are better for sports at least those with all glass OVF and fast auto focus but here again most conceed that contrast autofocus is more accurate than than of the faster autofocus types used in other DSLRs. Certainly the speed of live view and lack of lag will be further improved in future m4/3 models. Right now the problem areas you are referring to are quick panning as required to track flying birds or race cars, not your typical application for most people.

If your referring to speed as to good high ISO performance the lastest tests show GH1 very good at ISO 1600 and useable at ISO 3200. The noise that does show at latter ISO is very fine grained and reportedly not showing in prints made? Much of the claimed "superiority" of DSLRs in low light actually is from greater noise suppression hence the pictures appear clean and smoother but actually lower resolution than those from G1 in all tests.

So don't just accept the propoganda myth that m4/3 models are no match for DSLRS. Certainly you must realize that there are a lot of vested interests involved in perpetuating these claims protecting their products?

I do not have a G1 but use two other DSLR systems, but am very excited over the potential these new products bring both m4/3 models and the new compact K7 for DSLRs.

Just my two bits
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