The Mark III - the most recalled camera ever?

You almost feel sorry for Canon. The carriage costs of the recent AF recall and now the oil drop recall must surely mean they'll never make any $$ on this model?

Are there any grey-beards out there who can remember a more "accident prone" firmware fixed camera?

One year since I got mk III, no oil nor af issues. Anyone here with oil spots on mk III?

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Its just advertising a warranty that has been quitely in effect all along. If lube leaks onto the sensor, they will clean it for you.

i've had to have my 1ds (FF) sensor cleaned 3x in the past four months because of oil on the sensor.

sure canon will clean it. probably cost me about $30 - $40 to send it to canon insured so i just pay to have it done locally.

i'have had no issues with my 1d mark III in 1.5 years of ownership and fairly heavy use.

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I had oil spots on 5D mk I as well as factory debris right after I got it from the store. I guess this is the way Canon assembling their bodies

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Mine had lots of oil spots, Canon has cleaned it twice. I think this time its correct.
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JerryCanon10D said:

You almost feel sorry for Canon. The carriage costs of the recent AF
recall and now the oil drop recall must surely mean they'll never
make any $$ on this model?

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I think they were trying to save a few bucks on creating these camera, but they never expect the result was so poor with cmos based AF system.

it was the first time canon used the so called 'TTL-Area-Sir Cmos' on professional cameras on 1dm3 and 1dsm3, this kind of cmos AF system was first used on film camrera like eos 3 before, the problem with that these sensor result will vary with weather, and it degrade faster than CCD based AF, but it is very cheap to produce.

before this, camera like 1dm2 and 1dsm2 and they are all CCD based AF the AF sensor under the mirror which only used for auto focus, and they got great results.

it remind me that i owned film camera like eos 1 and eos 3, when i first used eos 1 i though it was the best thing on earth, the focus got it right everytime even on dim lights, but after i bought the new eos 3 and sold the eos 1, i like that eos 3 has 45 AF points which i believe should be better than 1, but it was a big mistake, i keep back focused alot, and the AF is so slow under dim light, I later found out that cameras before eos 3 use ccd based AF, and eos 3 and most cheap model use cmos based AF, this is why it has such a big difference.

now it seems that in the future canon may not have great AF like the 1dm2 series because they never going to use out sourced CCD, and which will snap their faces.

JerryCanon10D said:

You almost feel sorry for Canon. The carriage costs of the recent AF
recall and now the oil drop recall must surely mean they'll never
make any $$ on this model?

Are there any grey-beards out there who can remember a more "accident
prone" firmware fixed camera?

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Why would I feel sorry for Canon? I feel sorry for the users who trusted Canon and bought a top of the line professional camera and had to go through all these troubles just trying to get their cameras to work the way it should be.

john said:

JerryCanon10D said:

You almost feel sorry for Canon. The carriage costs of the recent AF
recall and now the oil drop recall must surely mean they'll never
make any $$ on this model?

Click to expand...

I think they were trying to save a few bucks on creating these
camera, but they never expect the result was so poor with cmos based
AF system.

it was the first time canon used the so called 'TTL-Area-Sir Cmos' on
professional cameras on 1dm3 and 1dsm3, this kind of cmos AF system
was first used on film camrera like eos 3 before, the problem with
that these sensor result will vary with weather, and it degrade
faster than CCD based AF, but it is very cheap to produce.

before this, camera like 1dm2 and 1dsm2 and they are all CCD based AF
the AF sensor under the mirror which only used for auto focus, and
they got great results.

Click to expand...

Do you have reference to a Canon publication for the AF information you stated above, thanks?

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J A K said:

john said:

JerryCanon10D said:

You almost feel sorry for Canon. The carriage costs of the recent AF
recall and now the oil drop recall must surely mean they'll never
make any $$ on this model?

Click to expand...

I think they were trying to save a few bucks on creating these
camera, but they never expect the result was so poor with cmos based
AF system.

it was the first time canon used the so called 'TTL-Area-Sir Cmos' on
professional cameras on 1dm3 and 1dsm3, this kind of cmos AF system
was first used on film camrera like eos 3 before, the problem with
that these sensor result will vary with weather, and it degrade
faster than CCD based AF, but it is very cheap to produce.

before this, camera like 1dm2 and 1dsm2 and they are all CCD based AF
the AF sensor under the mirror which only used for auto focus, and
they got great results.

Click to expand...

Do you have reference to a Canon publication for the AF information
you stated above, thanks?

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At least 1Ds2 white paper says "TTL-AREA-SIR with AF-dedicated CMOS Sensor".

I wonder if 1D2 would have had different sensor? Didn't have the WP in my own archieves.

Hi,

I have never had problems with MkIII AF, but after AF fix* I have had problems with oil marks.

Otherwise I have been really happy with my 1D MkIII.

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• Altough I have never had problems with autofocus I have to do those fixes in case I ever want to sell my MkIII.

... which has a very specific meaning in most countries (especially the USA.)
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Ken Phillips said:

... which has a very specific meaning in most countries (especially
the USA.)

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OK, agreed. But the extended warranty of last year and the encouragement to send cameras in for the recent AF fix is just about a recall in all but name isn't it?

ANs going back to the OP .... has such a series of firmwares, fixes and "send it back to a service centre" press releases ever been seen before?

Ken Phillips said:

'The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to
rule it.', H. L. Mencken

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btw

What an extraordinarily cynical tag line KP!
Who was he thinking of? Dr Schweitzer, Mother Theresa, Jesus?

I just discovered marks that look like oil only visible in blue sky background. I am undecided to fix myself or send in. I had camera (1dM3) since Feb 2009. I don't know if Canon will just clean sensor or solve root cause. Thanks.
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