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D60 vs 1D
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Ken Phillips
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There is only one camera suitable for any sport under any conditions ... and that is the 1D. Very fast 45 point AF, all kinds of metering modes, 8 fps, usable high ISO settings .... I coughed up the money after using an EOS-3 for several years, then using a D30 ... I could not stand the D30 (and therefore D60) autofocus in anything but perfect conditions. I also use spot metering frequently. I did not want to spend the $2700 difference, but I have no regrets. I like to shoot wildlife and man-made flying machines, with the occasional portrait.
Ken
Ken
Any suggestions as to what lenses are good to begin with. I want a zoom for sports and then maybe just something for everyday use.
Todd Andrew Love
Member
Camera: 1D - no question. You can try the D60 but you'll just end up being frustrated seeing all of the great images that are out of focus. I shot with a D30 and got some great images, but missed twice as many. Got the 1D and all I can say is WOW! AF is FAST, 8fps is incredible.
Lenses - you'll see a lot of debate on this, but if you want truly "professional" images, use fixed focal length lenses, unless Canon ever makes a sharp 100-300 f2.8 or 100-400 f2.8 or f4. All of the professional sports photographers use fixed focal length lenses - 300 f2.8 (my favorite), 400 2.8, 600 f4. With f5.6 like on the 100-400 zoom, you just can't get the subject separation that you want (too much DOF). Take an action shot at 5.6 and it may be good, but see the same shot at 2.8 and it'll just pop off the (fill in - print, screen, page..)
But... It also depends on what action you're going to be shooting - if it's an airshow or something like that, disregard what I said about lenses, but if it is a team sport (football, soccer, LACROSSE, baseball, etc), I stand by what I said.
Here's a link to my site with some examples of 1D with a 300 2.8, some with Canon 1.4x TC.
LaxShots.com
Lenses - you'll see a lot of debate on this, but if you want truly "professional" images, use fixed focal length lenses, unless Canon ever makes a sharp 100-300 f2.8 or 100-400 f2.8 or f4. All of the professional sports photographers use fixed focal length lenses - 300 f2.8 (my favorite), 400 2.8, 600 f4. With f5.6 like on the 100-400 zoom, you just can't get the subject separation that you want (too much DOF). Take an action shot at 5.6 and it may be good, but see the same shot at 2.8 and it'll just pop off the (fill in - print, screen, page..)
But... It also depends on what action you're going to be shooting - if it's an airshow or something like that, disregard what I said about lenses, but if it is a team sport (football, soccer, LACROSSE, baseball, etc), I stand by what I said.
Here's a link to my site with some examples of 1D with a 300 2.8, some with Canon 1.4x TC.
LaxShots.com
JohnM31499
Veteran Member
two zooms for sports on my 1D, depending on how far away I am & how much light is available.
1: Canon 70-200 F2.8 IS
2: Canon 100-400 IS
I occasionally use a Canon 1.4 tele-converter with either one.
-John
1: Canon 70-200 F2.8 IS
2: Canon 100-400 IS
I occasionally use a Canon 1.4 tele-converter with either one.
-John
DavidP #28649
Forum Pro
Definitely the 1D. You don't indicate how close/far you'll be from the action, or anything else to help with lens choices.
For "under the lights", don't get anything slower than f/2.8
A lot of pros carry the 70-200/2.8 and the 400/2.8 as their two sports lenses.
If it's for basketball, some would carry the 85/1.2 and 200/1.8 instead. Throw in a 1.4x TC with that combo.
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
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Photography -- just another word for compromise
For "under the lights", don't get anything slower than f/2.8
A lot of pros carry the 70-200/2.8 and the 400/2.8 as their two sports lenses.
If it's for basketball, some would carry the 85/1.2 and 200/1.8 instead. Throw in a 1.4x TC with that combo.
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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Chris Williams
Well-known member
As everyone else has said, the 1D is your only choice if you don't wish to be frustrated. I had the D30 and when I got the 1D everything changed.
For lenses, you'll get lots of answers, but if you ask 20 sports shooters, I'll venture to guess that 18 of them will have the 70-200 f2.8 (either IS or not). It's an excellent all around lens, and I use it virtually every time I shoot sports -- basketball, football, volleyball, auto racing, softball/baseball, etc.....
I also have a 300 f2.8, but the 70-200 is much more versatile.
Chris
For lenses, you'll get lots of answers, but if you ask 20 sports shooters, I'll venture to guess that 18 of them will have the 70-200 f2.8 (either IS or not). It's an excellent all around lens, and I use it virtually every time I shoot sports -- basketball, football, volleyball, auto racing, softball/baseball, etc.....
I also have a 300 f2.8, but the 70-200 is much more versatile.
Chris
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