S100FS - One year on - No Firmware update?

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So the mighty but quirky S100FS has been out a year now.

Despite this, there has yet to be any firmware release for it?

So what gives with Fuji? - Do they honestly think this camera was perfect straight out of the gates!? - Or don't they actually care, or listen to their customers & the tweaks / fixes that could be implimented ?

Considering that a year has gone by ... a S200FS? would have been announced by now surely?

And even if it had been announced, why don't Fuji show a little love to all the customers that parted with enough cash to buy an entry level DSLR anyway, and give the camera the firmware treat it deserves, with a few bug fixes, & or feature enhancements.
They've had long enough to do so after all!


Event
 
It will interesting to see where Fuji takes this camera, possibilities include:

1. Drop the line altogether

2. Dumb it down with a small sensor and 18x ,20x or 25x zoom and try to cram more megapixels into it.

3. Refinement. Address the PF, overhaul the Raw file processor, increase the speed and accuracy of its operations. In short aim for 'quality' not 'quantity', unfortunately 'quality' is hard to explain whereas '25X zoom' and '15 megapixels' stamped on the box grab peoples attention.

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Fuji very rarely introduces firmware updates for their cameras, and generally then only to address actual problems or oversights in the initial firmware. The S9000, as I recall, has really only had one firmware update made available, and that was to fix compatibility with certain CF cards. The S9100, as far as I know, had no updates ever made available.

In short, I'm not the least bit surprised there aren't any for the s100fs; nor, if I owned one, would I in the least bit expect one to come.
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--DrewE
 
So the mighty but quirky S100FS has been out a year now.

Despite this, there has yet to be any firmware release for it?

So what gives with Fuji? - Do they honestly think this camera was
perfect straight out of the gates!? - Or don't they actually care, or
listen to their customers & the tweaks / fixes that could be
implimented ?

Considering that a year has gone by ... a S200FS? would have been
announced by now surely?

And even if it had been announced, why don't Fuji show a little love
to all the customers that parted with enough cash to buy an entry
level DSLR anyway, and give the camera the firmware treat it
deserves, with a few bug fixes, & or feature enhancements.
They've had long enough to do so after all!
It's not a DSLR!
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--- Ron_M
 
I'm pretty sure the OP meant that S100fs buyers spent the equivalent of an entry-level DSLR for it (I paid $700 a year ago!). I agree that Fuji should show some appreciation to the buyers (like me) who forked out a ton of money for something that falls short in many ways to the low end DSLR's that cost about the same. They would sell more of them, too, if people got word that they had addressed some of the beefs that many, many S100fs owners have griped about for the last year. I still believe that quite a few people are run-off by the negative comments about the cam. A simple firmware fix would go a long way towards satisfying current customers, coaxing some fence-sitters, and bringing back some who have been run-off altogether. C'mon Fuji. Do what we want and make this camera closer to what it was intended to be with a firmware update!
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K.B.
 
I'm pretty sure the OP meant that S100fs buyers spent the equivalent
of an entry-level DSLR for it (I paid $700 a year ago!). I agree that
Fuji should show some appreciation to the buyers (like me) who forked
out a ton of money for something that falls short in many ways to the
low end DSLR's that cost about the same. They would sell more of
them, too, if people got word that they had addressed some of the
beefs that many, many S100fs owners have griped about for the last
year. I still believe that quite a few people are run-off by the
negative comments about the cam. A simple firmware fix would go a
long way towards satisfying current customers, coaxing some
fence-sitters, and bringing back some who have been run-off
altogether.
Yes, that's why I'm selling mine. Focus is way too slow, too many shots are OOF, it goes to sleep and I have to turn it off and on again to wake it up and the FS modes are joke.
C'mon Fuji. Do what we want and make this camera closer
to what it was intended to be with a firmware update!
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K.B.
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--- Ron_M
 
Hi Ron,

Thanks for stating the obvious! - So .. only DSLR's get firware updates do they?

Prior to the S100FS, I owned the PRO1 by Canon, & still miss it from time to time ..

They only brought out 1 firmware upgrade for it, but when it came out it almost transformed it into a different camera. The lens barrel ultrasonic zoom became far more precise & smooth, Continuous focus & half press focus became 20% & 50% faster! - & it was already 'ok' to begin with. plus a few minor tweaks ...

So .. if Canon can... shame Fuji won't pull its finger out.
 
Hi Ron,
Thanks for stating the obvious! - So .. only DSLR's get firware
updates do they?
No - that's not what I said!! I only said that the S100FS is not a DSLR as your post seemed to indicate that you thought the S100FS was a DSLR. Lots of P&S cameras get updates. Panasonic sends out several updates for their P&S cameras.
Prior to the S100FS, I owned the PRO1 by Canon, & still miss it from
time to time ..

They only brought out 1 firmware upgrade for it, but when it came out
it almost transformed it into a different camera. The lens barrel
ultrasonic zoom became far more precise & smooth, Continuous focus &
half press focus became 20% & 50% faster! - & it was already 'ok' to
begin with. plus a few minor tweaks ...

So .. if Canon can... shame Fuji won't pull its finger out.
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--- Ron_M
 
I , for one, will be defecting from Fuji very soon, as I have already decided on a D90 setup. I can honestly say that had Fuji shown some sign that they cared about the negative issues surrounding this camera, my attitude would have been different to some extent. Even a tweaked & improved S200fs or whatever will not be enough - it's too late for that & I will not shell out $700+ for another one now anyway. If that's what they are working on, fine, but I will be abandoning ship in the next few weeks.

Have you noticed how fast the price has been crashing on this cam? Only one year and it is already approaching close to half the original list price. Bad publicity is what caused that. Do you hear, Fuji? A firmware update would have kept the price up and sold more units as reports of better camera operation made their way around to potential buyers and others who had written it off as a potential camera to own. Fatal mistakes made on this one, IMO (and I'm living proof of that).
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K.B.
 
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Many thanks Ron .. However I 'do' know what a DSLR is & i know what the S100FS is, as i own one & I know the difference.

I was only comparing the price.. nothing more ... The S100FS when it first came out, price-wise matched or even exceed some entry levels DSLRs with kit lenses. -

So you'd think that Fuji 'might' show their loyal customers a little after-sales firmware 'care'. When afterall, for the price ... an S100FS purchaser 'could' have chosen a Canon, Panasonic, Oly, Pentax & so on.... & May still choose to do so in the future.

Don't get me wrong, i think the S100FS is excellent .... but there 'are' niggles that 'could' be fixed with firmware... When i see other manufacturers address issues with their equipment... it is a tad irksome that Fuji seem fit to not bother. - Well so far at least.

Out of interest Ron, what ARE you thinking of buying as a replacement camera?
Cheers
Al
 
I , for one, will be defecting from Fuji very soon, as I have already
decided on a D90 setup.
I'm looking at the D90 also. My only problem is seeing enough in the view finder with my tri-focals. So I'm hoping the live view is good enough.
I can honestly say that had Fuji shown some
sign that they cared about the negative issues surrounding this
camera, my attitude would have been different to some extent. Even a
tweaked & improved S200fs or whatever will not be enough - it's too
late for that & I will not shell out $700+ for another one now
anyway. If that's what they are working on, fine, but I will be
abandoning ship in the next few weeks.
Have you noticed how fast the price has been crashing on this cam?
Only one year and it is already approaching close to half the
original list price.
That's about all it's worth. This is my first and last Fuji.
Bad publicity is what caused that. Do you hear,
Fuji? A firmware update would have kept the price up and sold more
units as reports of better camera operation made their way around to
potential buyers and others who had written it off as a potential
camera to own. Fatal mistakes made on this one, IMO (and I'm living
proof of that).
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K.B.
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--- Ron_M
 
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Many thanks Ron .. However I 'do' know what a DSLR is & i know what
the S100FS is, as i own one & I know the difference.

I was only comparing the price.. nothing more ... The S100FS when it
first came out, price-wise matched or even exceed some entry levels
DSLRs with kit lenses. -
So you'd think that Fuji 'might' show their loyal customers a little
after-sales firmware 'care'. When afterall, for the price ... an
S100FS purchaser 'could' have chosen a Canon, Panasonic, Oly, Pentax
& so on.... & May still choose to do so in the future.

Don't get me wrong, i think the S100FS is excellent .... but there
'are' niggles that 'could' be fixed with firmware... When i see other
manufacturers address issues with their equipment... it is a tad
irksome that Fuji seem fit to not bother. - Well so far at least.

Out of interest Ron, what ARE you thinking of buying as a replacement
camera?
I do have the Panasonic FZ28 and it is far superior to the Fuji. I'm also looking at the Nikon D90. I've had Nikon and Canon DSLR cameras in the past and I like them both. My opinion of the S100FS is a very poor camera, especially for the price. This is my first Fuji and it is the last. It is a good door stop. :> )
Cheers
Al
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--- Ron_M
 
I do have the Panasonic FZ28 and it is far superior to the Fuji. I'm
also looking at the Nikon D90. I've had Nikon and Canon DSLR cameras
in the past and I like them both. My opinion of the S100FS is a very
poor camera, especially for the price. This is my first Fuji and it
is the last. It is a good door stop. :> )
I won't criticise somebody elses choice of camera because they are all capable of good, sharp photos in the right hands. I am curious, however to know what makes the fz28 superior to the s100. Is it the button operated zoom as opposed to the inconvenient manual zoom or could it be the smaller sensor, higher noise, smaller dynamic range or overall lower resolution. As I have said I would not want to criticise someone elses choice of camera and you are, of course entitled to your opinion but I find it hard to follow your reasoning.

As a door stop I would tend to use a wedge made out of wood. I find that it does a better job and is a lot cheaper.

Carl
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No Firmware update?

Ive heard the same comment year after year after year.

Realise it and deal with it .......this is Fuji
 
Ever since last year when I joined here and asked about this camera, people have been saying there are DSLR's out there that are equivalent. Ive been asking what, where, but have YET to get an answer. The D90 is a cam Im looking at too, but its MUCH more than the s100fs and its original price of $795 that I paid, let alone the $500 you can get one for now. If there is a DSLR out there with equivalent features (film simulation - which I like, tilting LCD screen, 28-400 lens, great ISO settings and low light abilities) for the same price, Im still waiting to hear what it is. Id LOVE to know, as Im looking to purchase a DSLR right now. And, like many others, I have 12000 pics on this cam and FEW have CA issues. I dont shoot in situations where Im going to get CA but if I do, it takes 5 seconds to correct in post processing. Everyone makes it out to be a huge downfall for the camera, but I think the positives of this cam far outweigh the negative. Ill never part with mine, even when its replaced. I love this camera, and its one reason why I dont post in this forum anymore: Its such a great camera that just gets trashed on constantly here. If people thought they were going to get a DSLR equivalent with better features, better pictures, etc., then they should have done more research. If you knew what you were getting when you bought it, you love it. Its 10 times better than my $300 dollar Optio at only twice the price. Nobody can argue with that.
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...the op clearly indicated that he meant the amount of money that would buy a dslr. Not that the s100 was a dslr. Not having a go at you, just saying that you got the wrong end of the stick.
 
...the op clearly indicated that he meant the amount of money that
would buy a dslr. Not that the s100 was a dslr.
I don't think it was that clear otherwise I would not have answered his post.
Not having a go at you, just saying that you got the wrong end of the stick.
Maybe I did, but I was addressing the OP not you and it appears you are having a go.

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--- Ron_M
 
Ever since last year when I joined here and asked about this camera,
people have been saying there are DSLR's out there that are
equivalent. Ive been asking what, where, but have YET to get an
answer. The D90 is a cam Im looking at too, but its MUCH more than
the s100fs and its original price of $795 that I paid, let alone the
$500 you can get one for now. If there is a DSLR out there with
equivalent features (film simulation - which I like, tilting LCD
screen, 28-400 lens, great ISO settings and low light abilities) for
the same price, Im still waiting to hear what it is. Id LOVE to
know, as Im looking to purchase a DSLR right now.
I don't think too many people suggested you could get an exactly equivalent DSLR for the same money, only that you could get a reasonably good DSLR kit for a similar amount of money. There are naturally tradeoffs to either route.

But...for what it's worth, given the features you list as important, one possiblity among many to consider is the Pentax K2000 kit with the 18-55 and 55-200 lenses, which B&H has listed for a bit over $600. These two lenses cover the equivalent field of view of 27 to 300 on a 35mm camera. It does not have live view (so you do have to use the viewfinder to compose your shots); without live view, I don't see any real use for a tilting/rotating LCD screen. It also doesn't have flim simulation modes as such, but you can get similar effects by adjusting the contrast, saturation, etc., as indeed you can also do on the s100fs.
And, like many
others, I have 12000 pics on this cam and FEW have CA issues. I dont
shoot in situations where Im going to get CA but if I do, it takes 5
seconds to correct in post processing. Everyone makes it out to be a
huge downfall for the camera, but I think the positives of this cam
far outweigh the negative. Ill never part with mine, even when its
replaced. I love this camera, and its one reason why I dont post in
this forum anymore: Its such a great camera that just gets trashed
on constantly here.

If people thought they were going to get a DSLR
equivalent with better features, better pictures, etc., then they
should have done more research. If you knew what you were getting
when you bought it, you love it. Its 10 times better than my $300
dollar Optio at only twice the price. Nobody can argue with that.
I'd certainly never say the s100fs is anything other than a good camera; it's main problem lies not so much with its features and capabilities, as much as with it having the misfortune to occupy a bit of a disappearing corner in the camera marketplace. With many low-end DSLRs costing similar amounts of money but offering some advantages (and, as I said, some disadvantages) on one side, and lower-specified cameras getting better below it, the "bridge camera" zone is kind of getting squeezed into a smaller and smaller niche.

I owned an S9000 for awhile, and then got a DSLR. The S9000 was (and still is) a good camera--not as capable as the s100fs, but still good. The differences in image quality between it and a DSLR with a good lens are nonetheless significant. I can reliably get pictures with the DSLR that were simply impossible to get decently with the S9000; and many others I can capture with greater image quality. Those made the change well worth while for me.

Others, of course, have differing wants and needs, and so come to different decisions.
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--DrewE
 

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