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Canon tech weenies (and yes, you are tech weenies) I just have one thing to say. You stink. I'm about ready to dump every frickin' lens I have, my beloved A2 (which you don't suck for creating) and my un-beloved G2 (which you kind of suck for creating).

Mr or Mrs TechWeenie, I spoke to you personally. I know you are keeping up in this forum. There are far too many people here that have complained about the AF problem. I know from experience that you're holding back after going through the "cracked body" issue. Having had cameras for 25 years, 3 digi cams, medium format cams, Contax cams (I could go on), and having read in painful detail about "how to focus your canon G2, I can only say that I'm fed up.

Don't tell me how to focus my darn camera. I've kept up on this forum and have conducted far too many tests. You, Canon tech weenies, need to own up to this nonsense.

Don't get me wrong. In my studio I get superb pictures EVERY TIME. Outdoors with closeups, I get superb pictures EVERY TIME. But group shots simply suck. The camera is confused, NOT ME. I know how to look for contrast. I know how to look for a vertical whatever-you-want-to-call-it in the camera display. I know how to wait for that damn green square to light up. Nonsense.

Yes, I need to move to a digi SLR. But dammit, I spent $850 for this? A camera that gets confused? People that are shooting for general candid shots do not spend $850. People that are looking to push the envelope on a high end digi cam that is as close to D-SLR as they can get DO spend 850. And you failed, you tech weenies you.

There are far too many pros in this forum that have complained about the same thing. And when I hear their "noise" I know there's merit behind their statements. So when are you going to own up?

And to my fellow Canon friends, God love ya, you've got more patience than I. I'm about to throw this camera against a brick wall just for the simple pleasure of it all.

Now THAT's worth $850.

--
Amal Elaine Schmitz
 
I hope you feel better now.
  • Rog
Amal Schmitz said:
Canon tech weenies (and yes, you are tech weenies) I just have one
thing to say. You stink. I'm about ready to dump every frickin'
lens I have, my beloved A2 (which you don't suck for creating) and
my un-beloved G2 (which you kind of suck for creating).

Mr or Mrs TechWeenie, I spoke to you personally. I know you are
keeping up in this forum. There are far too many people here that
have complained about the AF problem. I know from experience that
you're holding back after going through the "cracked body" issue.
Having had cameras for 25 years, 3 digi cams, medium format cams,
Contax cams (I could go on), and having read in painful detail
about "how to focus your canon G2, I can only say that I'm fed up.

Don't tell me how to focus my darn camera. I've kept up on this
forum and have conducted far too many tests. You, Canon tech
weenies, need to own up to this nonsense.

Don't get me wrong. In my studio I get superb pictures EVERY TIME.
Outdoors with closeups, I get superb pictures EVERY TIME. But
group shots simply suck. The camera is confused, NOT ME. I know
how to look for contrast. I know how to look for a vertical
whatever-you-want-to-call-it in the camera display. I know how to
wait for that damn green square to light up. Nonsense.

Yes, I need to move to a digi SLR. But dammit, I spent $850 for
this? A camera that gets confused? People that are shooting for
general candid shots do not spend $850. People that are looking to
push the envelope on a high end digi cam that is as close to D-SLR
as they can get DO spend 850. And you failed, you tech weenies you.

There are far too many pros in this forum that have complained
about the same thing. And when I hear their "noise" I know there's
merit behind their statements. So when are you going to own up?

And to my fellow Canon friends, God love ya, you've got more
patience than I. I'm about to throw this camera against a brick
wall just for the simple pleasure of it all.

Now THAT's worth $850.

--
Amal Elaine Schmitz
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  • Rog
 
And do you know how much merit I have? OK, well not much but I do talk loudly. And all of my pro-Canon talk has suddenly changed course.
 
I agree with the issues, but this kind of puts the "tech weenies" on defence, not on the "customer service" mode....(well... you just have to let out steam sometimes :)

Kristian
Amal Schmitz said:
Canon tech weenies (and yes, you are tech weenies) I just have one
thing to say. You stink. I'm about ready to dump every frickin'
lens I have, my beloved A2 (which you don't suck for creating) and
my un-beloved G2 (which you kind of suck for creating).

Mr or Mrs TechWeenie, I spoke to you personally. I know you are
keeping up in this forum. There are far too many people here that
have complained about the AF problem. I know from experience that
you're holding back after going through the "cracked body" issue.
Having had cameras for 25 years, 3 digi cams, medium format cams,
Contax cams (I could go on), and having read in painful detail
about "how to focus your canon G2, I can only say that I'm fed up.

Don't tell me how to focus my darn camera. I've kept up on this
forum and have conducted far too many tests. You, Canon tech
weenies, need to own up to this nonsense.

Don't get me wrong. In my studio I get superb pictures EVERY TIME.
Outdoors with closeups, I get superb pictures EVERY TIME. But
group shots simply suck. The camera is confused, NOT ME. I know
how to look for contrast. I know how to look for a vertical
whatever-you-want-to-call-it in the camera display. I know how to
wait for that damn green square to light up. Nonsense.

Yes, I need to move to a digi SLR. But dammit, I spent $850 for
this? A camera that gets confused? People that are shooting for
general candid shots do not spend $850. People that are looking to
push the envelope on a high end digi cam that is as close to D-SLR
as they can get DO spend 850. And you failed, you tech weenies you.

There are far too many pros in this forum that have complained
about the same thing. And when I hear their "noise" I know there's
merit behind their statements. So when are you going to own up?

And to my fellow Canon friends, God love ya, you've got more
patience than I. I'm about to throw this camera against a brick
wall just for the simple pleasure of it all.

Now THAT's worth $850.

--
Amal Elaine Schmitz
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IXUS V, S40 and G2 Galleries
http://www.iki.fi/steelduck
 
Ahhhhhhhhahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!
I just love your title!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be posting some follow up G2 focus shots just to make the point beam home. It's an unfixed G2 problem that says foc-us. I remember when people gave the A20 a hard time over focusing. Now I can't believe this is a problem that has survived up to a G2!
Just maybe the 5700 is a dream camera come true. eL
Mind Socket said:
I hope you feel better now.
  • Rog
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Man Do I ever agree with you :)

I'm so pised off at this camera because of this focus joke.

My brother just bought a simple SLR film camera for 1/6 of the price I paid for the G2 and his "little camera" as INSTANT and perfect auto focus... and I do mean INSTANT. Before seeing this, I had believed some of the people on this forum claiming that the G2 was just a bit slower than other cameras. I obviously starting despising my G2 after that... The amount of shots I've missed because of the focus being off or just too slow is ridiculous.

Anyways , thanks for your rant :) In a weird way It made my day, hehe

Francky
 
Go away Mike
 
Just a couple of points the N5700 might be a good camera but I'd feel a bit miffed if I owned a N5000, at least the G2 has been around for a while.

Also

Ok so it's in the G2 user manual but there is a bit stating "There may be autofocus problems under certain circumstances" or something to that effect.

Also

Yup you can get a 35mm much cheaper we're paying development costs.

Hang on untill a Digital SLR gets to a reasonable price and we'll all look back on this phase with smiles (and empty pockets)

cheers

A.

PS this is a discussion re: Canon people who want a good rant should be allowed to and not told to move on, freedom of expression is what the internet is all about.

PPS had I stuck controls, followed by a crack, followed by out of focus shots I might be a trite less moderate ;-)
 
Mike-
I'm not a shrink, nor do I play one on TV ;-)

But dude, you gotta spit the poison out or it will kill you. You've made your point, you've even helped to steer potential Canon customers away, it's time to move on. Look at yourself, you're hanging out on a camera forum for which you no longer own the camera! It's time to let it go and move on, for your own well being.

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Eric
http://www.pbase.com/haglunde
Mike11 said:
Canon is probably not reading this or anything else but their bank
statement .... corporate profits seem to come above quality
products and customer service with Canon.

I've sold my G2 and would not even think about another Canon
product. My reasons for selling ???

See following links:

http://dpgallery.com/resource/g2minority/index.asp

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/viewtopic.php?TopicID=3051
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I'm sorry if I seem blunt here, but perhaps the solution is to not "push the envelope". Long have I seen on this site people squabbling about which camera is sharper, which has better colors, whether 3 mexapixels can be used for an 8x10.

Just realise what you people are doing. When you spend the money for a current digicam, you're PAYING FOR THE NEW THING and nothing else! This is not a tried and true camera. It hasn't been built on years and years of experimentation like a film SLR has. Over and over it surprises me what people will PAY for this stuff.

Of course the camera companies aren't helping any. As soon as the new models come out the old semi-proven ones are coming off the shelf. But this is because you people want the new thing and have shown that you will pay through the nose for it!

I've sorry if I seem blunt here, but I've wanted to get this out ever since I started on this site. Really, people just need to calm down about what is the cutting edge.
Amal Schmitz said:
Canon tech weenies (and yes, you are tech weenies) I just have one
thing to say. You stink. I'm about ready to dump every frickin'
lens I have, my beloved A2 (which you don't suck for creating) and
my un-beloved G2 (which you kind of suck for creating).

Mr or Mrs TechWeenie, I spoke to you personally. I know you are
keeping up in this forum. There are far too many people here that
have complained about the AF problem. I know from experience that
you're holding back after going through the "cracked body" issue.
Having had cameras for 25 years, 3 digi cams, medium format cams,
Contax cams (I could go on), and having read in painful detail
about "how to focus your canon G2, I can only say that I'm fed up.

Don't tell me how to focus my darn camera. I've kept up on this
forum and have conducted far too many tests. You, Canon tech
weenies, need to own up to this nonsense.

Don't get me wrong. In my studio I get superb pictures EVERY TIME.
Outdoors with closeups, I get superb pictures EVERY TIME. But
group shots simply suck. The camera is confused, NOT ME. I know
how to look for contrast. I know how to look for a vertical
whatever-you-want-to-call-it in the camera display. I know how to
wait for that damn green square to light up. Nonsense.

Yes, I need to move to a digi SLR. But dammit, I spent $850 for
this? A camera that gets confused? People that are shooting for
general candid shots do not spend $850. People that are looking to
push the envelope on a high end digi cam that is as close to D-SLR
as they can get DO spend 850. And you failed, you tech weenies you.

There are far too many pros in this forum that have complained
about the same thing. And when I hear their "noise" I know there's
merit behind their statements. So when are you going to own up?

And to my fellow Canon friends, God love ya, you've got more
patience than I. I'm about to throw this camera against a brick
wall just for the simple pleasure of it all.

Now THAT's worth $850.

--
Amal Elaine Schmitz
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attention
anyone preparing to throw your G2 against a brick wall:
throw it in my direction instead
 
To a degree, I agree with your post. But I don't understand it's relavance to this thread. The poster is b!tching about the usual AF problem. Good AF performance is hardly cutting edge in my mind since most $100 cameras do it better than the G2. Or maybe I simply did not understand your post?

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Eric
http://www.pbase.com/haglunde
Malibuss66 said:
Just realise what you people are doing. When you spend the money
for a current digicam, you're PAYING FOR THE NEW THING and nothing
else! This is not a tried and true camera. It hasn't been built
on years and years of experimentation like a film SLR has. Over
and over it surprises me what people will PAY for this stuff.

Of course the camera companies aren't helping any. As soon as the
new models come out the old semi-proven ones are coming off the
shelf. But this is because you people want the new thing and have
shown that you will pay through the nose for it!

I've sorry if I seem blunt here, but I've wanted to get this out
ever since I started on this site. Really, people just need to
calm down about what is the cutting edge.
Amal Schmitz said:
Canon tech weenies (and yes, you are tech weenies) I just have one
thing to say. You stink. I'm about ready to dump every frickin'
lens I have, my beloved A2 (which you don't suck for creating) and
my un-beloved G2 (which you kind of suck for creating).

Mr or Mrs TechWeenie, I spoke to you personally. I know you are
keeping up in this forum. There are far too many people here that
have complained about the AF problem. I know from experience that
you're holding back after going through the "cracked body" issue.
Having had cameras for 25 years, 3 digi cams, medium format cams,
Contax cams (I could go on), and having read in painful detail
about "how to focus your canon G2, I can only say that I'm fed up.

Don't tell me how to focus my darn camera. I've kept up on this
forum and have conducted far too many tests. You, Canon tech
weenies, need to own up to this nonsense.

Don't get me wrong. In my studio I get superb pictures EVERY TIME.
Outdoors with closeups, I get superb pictures EVERY TIME. But
group shots simply suck. The camera is confused, NOT ME. I know
how to look for contrast. I know how to look for a vertical
whatever-you-want-to-call-it in the camera display. I know how to
wait for that damn green square to light up. Nonsense.

Yes, I need to move to a digi SLR. But dammit, I spent $850 for
this? A camera that gets confused? People that are shooting for
general candid shots do not spend $850. People that are looking to
push the envelope on a high end digi cam that is as close to D-SLR
as they can get DO spend 850. And you failed, you tech weenies you.

There are far too many pros in this forum that have complained
about the same thing. And when I hear their "noise" I know there's
merit behind their statements. So when are you going to own up?

And to my fellow Canon friends, God love ya, you've got more
patience than I. I'm about to throw this camera against a brick
wall just for the simple pleasure of it all.

Now THAT's worth $850.

--
Amal Elaine Schmitz
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John B. Strickland II said:
Go away Mike
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Go play with your new toy Mike and start harrassing those nice people over at the Nikon forum the next time you ask your camera to do anythiing demanding like low-light focusing, full use of an external flash etc... Even though I am sure your new toy (CP5700) is a very capable camera (I should know as I had one for a week), I suspect you probably will not get to find out for quite a while as you're being far too busy surfing the Canon forums winding people up. Grow up and go away... and don't come running back after Photokina!
alexis
 
I'm not really a techie, and tell me if I'm way off, but it seems to me if it was as simple as taking an AF system from a film camera that works then they would have done it. It would have saved Canon time and money. But obviously they put something different in the G2. This leads me to believe that they needed to come up with a new solution for these new fandangled devices called digital cameras. From the lack of standardization of batteries I think they're pretty much coming up with different power systems for each camera, and thus different auto focus systems. I'm sure some day they'll get it right, but for now we're buying into the new thing; not the tested and reliable thing. Eric is frustrated that he paid $850 for a camera without a working autofocus system. All I'm trying to tell Eric is to realise what the $850 was for. He got a cutting edge camera for his money. Just because it's cutting edge, people seem to assume it's going to be the best in every way which is almost never the case.

Personally I don't think cutting edge is worth that much, but people are excited about it for some reason and that drives up the price.

I hope that clarified things.

So they don't have it right yet.
Eric Haglund said:
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Eric
http://www.pbase.com/haglunde
Malibuss66 said:
Just realise what you people are doing. When you spend the money
for a current digicam, you're PAYING FOR THE NEW THING and nothing
else! This is not a tried and true camera. It hasn't been built
on years and years of experimentation like a film SLR has. Over
and over it surprises me what people will PAY for this stuff.

Of course the camera companies aren't helping any. As soon as the
new models come out the old semi-proven ones are coming off the
shelf. But this is because you people want the new thing and have
shown that you will pay through the nose for it!

I've sorry if I seem blunt here, but I've wanted to get this out
ever since I started on this site. Really, people just need to
calm down about what is the cutting edge.
Amal Schmitz said:
Canon tech weenies (and yes, you are tech weenies) I just have one
thing to say. You stink. I'm about ready to dump every frickin'
lens I have, my beloved A2 (which you don't suck for creating) and
my un-beloved G2 (which you kind of suck for creating).

Mr or Mrs TechWeenie, I spoke to you personally. I know you are
keeping up in this forum. There are far too many people here that
have complained about the AF problem. I know from experience that
you're holding back after going through the "cracked body" issue.
Having had cameras for 25 years, 3 digi cams, medium format cams,
Contax cams (I could go on), and having read in painful detail
about "how to focus your canon G2, I can only say that I'm fed up.

Don't tell me how to focus my darn camera. I've kept up on this
forum and have conducted far too many tests. You, Canon tech
weenies, need to own up to this nonsense.

Don't get me wrong. In my studio I get superb pictures EVERY TIME.
Outdoors with closeups, I get superb pictures EVERY TIME. But
group shots simply suck. The camera is confused, NOT ME. I know
how to look for contrast. I know how to look for a vertical
whatever-you-want-to-call-it in the camera display. I know how to
wait for that damn green square to light up. Nonsense.

Yes, I need to move to a digi SLR. But dammit, I spent $850 for
this? A camera that gets confused? People that are shooting for
general candid shots do not spend $850. People that are looking to
push the envelope on a high end digi cam that is as close to D-SLR
as they can get DO spend 850. And you failed, you tech weenies you.

There are far too many pros in this forum that have complained
about the same thing. And when I hear their "noise" I know there's
merit behind their statements. So when are you going to own up?

And to my fellow Canon friends, God love ya, you've got more
patience than I. I'm about to throw this camera against a brick
wall just for the simple pleasure of it all.

Now THAT's worth $850.

--
Amal Elaine Schmitz
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I have an S40, and boy I have had my share of blurry pictures too. I wish they could have made it focus like some of the Sony MiniDV camcorders I've seen. This is probably comparing apples to oranges, but my brother is able to take 1 megapixel stills with his camcorder, and I have yet to see a blurry image. Sure - the pictures from a 1 megapixel camera are likely only good for web use, but surely they could have some sort of continuous focus lock like they have on camcorders, no?

EM
 
Thanks for the post.

You DO have a point, and a good one. Canon support sux, and the next camera I get will indeed be a Nikon digital SLR. I like Canon, and don't have many focus problem, but yup, they do exist, and the camera does indeed get easily confused.

Mark
Amal Schmitz said:
And do you know how much merit I have? OK, well not much but I do
talk loudly. And all of my pro-Canon talk has suddenly changed
course.
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So, would you say your experience with Nikon support is better or worse than with Canon?
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Logopro said:
You DO have a point, and a good one. Canon support sux, and the
next camera I get will indeed be a Nikon digital SLR. I like
Canon, and don't have many focus problem, but yup, they do exist,
and the camera does indeed get easily confused.

Mark
Amal Schmitz said:
And do you know how much merit I have? OK, well not much but I do
talk loudly. And all of my pro-Canon talk has suddenly changed
course.
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