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D200 vs D5000

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jeffh100 said:
Thanks all for such a robust discussion. I just placed my order for
the D200 at BB. I decided that the build quality, and the ease of
control outweighed the newer sensor. I also feel that it will
challenge me more to improve my skill to get the desired results. So
now I need a good walk around lens; I am thinking of the 18-105 VR.
and of course a good wide angle, maybe the Tokina 12-24.
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jeff
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I bought 18-105 VR for my D200 a couple of weeks ago, and I also have 50mm 1.8. I'm so spoiled by the sharp images from the 50mm lens, that I'm already selling the 18-105, and am getting 17-55 2.8 instead. I personally wasn't impressed by 18-105....
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Panasonic FZ50, Nikon D200
 
BillCarr said:
Oh, now you've done it. ianz28 will make you provide supportive
documentation for that and prove that the sun rises in the East too.
;)
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That was rude.

And, I'm still waiting for the reviews showing the superiority of computer designed lenses over old designs.

Or even just an explanation of the lenses you are referring to.

Since you haven't provided any substance and are just throwing blanket statements I'll just draw the conclusion that you are talking out your .
 
If you are too lazy or disputatious to look at reviews and see the improvements made across the board by new lenses, the feel free to wait for the sun to rise in the West
 
Get the D200, it's a no brainer.

I actually have both D200 and D90, but I rarely use the D90, I bought it just to have the latest CMOS Nikon DX sensor and to play around with LV and video.

Below ISO 800, there is no difference between D90/D5000 and D200. Acutally, there is a dfference. D200 will take better pictures of "people". The skin looks better and much more natural with the D200 than the D90/D5000 series. If I'm into landscapes and non-people objects, I'd get the D5000 for better saturation and slightly more pixel count. But otherwise, D200 is a better choice.

The magenisum body is in a different league. I paired up the D200 with the 18-105 VR and it's an awesome combo. It takes incredibly sharp pictures. In fact, I may buy another D200 and attach a 70-300 VR for tele-work.
 
I would ask, what do you need with the camera. The d200 has allot of options, but I personally do not like the output, of course I am comparing to my d2x and d3 d700.

The new camera is probably a hi iso performer, which would be my choice hands down. But again you read the stats.
 
The OP is asking for the comparison because he is trying to decide which to buy.

I have used my D200 professionally shooting weddings for three years, and it has always been a rock-solid performer. I've dropped it, banged it against concrete posts, slammed it in doors, knocked it over while on a tripod, had champagne poured over it, and nothing has hurt it. It is truly built for a working professional.

There are definitely advantages to both the D200 and the D5000. The D200 focus system is extremely accurate, but it doesn't have Live View, and I don't think the dynamic focus works that well. My D3 has Live View, and I think I would really really like the swivel monitor on the D5000 for those 'over-the-crowd' shots.

The dynamic focus tracking characteristics of the D5000 are probably better than the D200. Nikon has made lots of improvements in that area. The dynamic focus on my D200 definitely doesn't work that well for birding. It is perfect for weddings, but not for things that move quicker than the bride.
hotiwal said:
Are we comparing apples with oranges? D200 and D5000 are for two
different groups of people. If we must compare D5000 to an existing
DSLR, then it should be D60 or even D40.
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BillCarr said:
BillCarr wrote:
You don't do much travel or street photography then. Go tell pros
like Bob Krist and the late Galen Rowell that their choices of D90
and N65 respectively are silly and they need to get to the gym more.
A half pound makes a considerable difference in the course of the day
if you're hiking or holding the camera in your hand for literally
hours.
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I actually take hiking trips all the time. I calculated I carried 14lbs of photo gear (Lowepro Flipside 200 full of gear + tripod) on my last 6 mile hike. If I could cut that weight in half then we're talking, but I wouldn't notice 1/2 pound of savings in the slightest. I personally think DSLR's are totally the wrong kind of camera if street shooting and hiking are your forte. I use them for that purpose now because no one makes a decent compact; but as soon as Oly's m4/3's camera drops my D200 plus big ass DSLR lenses will be staying at home for hiking trips and vacations.

I love DSLR's for stobist stuff and general photography, but forget about it when it comes to hiking and street shooting.
 
BillCarr said:
If you are too lazy or disputatious to look at reviews and see the
improvements made across the board by new lenses, the feel free to
wait for the sun to rise in the West
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So based on your logic / assessment. Computer designed lenses are better because computerized tests tell you so.

Go take some pictures with your $10,000 kit. I'll plug along with my old out-dated junk.

If you have any old AIS lenses feel free to send them my way. Heck if you have enough of them I'll come to whatever hole you crawl out of in the morning and pick them up.

p.s. The 18-200 is a computer designed lens and......(I'll just leave it at that). Simply because a computer designs it doesn't mean it's actually "better" than anything.
 
ianz28 said:
p.s. The 18-200 is a computer designed lens and......(I'll just
leave it at that). Simply because a computer designs it doesn't mean
it's actually "better" than anything.
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Well, it's certainly better than a lens that doesn't exist (how many 18-200 or 28-300 mm zooms were built in the 1970ies and 1980ies?). There were days when people would believe that zooms couldn't be designed to yield acceptable image quality. Look at the 24-70/2.8, and then tell me there hasn't been a major jump in lens design since those days...
 
SUPERHOKIE wrote:
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SUPERHOKIE said:
Below ISO 800, there is no difference between D90/D5000 and D200.
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My experience is with the D300, not the D90, but since they both use the EXPEED processor and CMOS sensors...

Aside from the difference in high ISO performance, I also noticed that my D300 has noticeably more dynamic range than my D200. It is therefore more forgiving in contrasty scenes and exposure errors.

That's why I'm still trying to decide what to get for a backup/lightweight alternative to my D300. I can live with limiting myself to ISO1000 like I used to do with my D200, but I really like having the dynamic range of the D300. If it weren't for that, I'd just pick up a used D80 for CAD$500.

larsbc
 
larsbc said:
larsbc said:
Below ISO 800, there is no difference between D90/D5000 and D200.
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My experience is with the D300, not the D90, but since they both use
the EXPEED processor and CMOS sensors...

Aside from the difference in high ISO performance, I also noticed
that my D300 has noticeably more dynamic range than my D200. It is
therefore more forgiving in contrasty scenes and exposure errors.

That's why I'm still trying to decide what to get for a
backup/lightweight alternative to my D300. I can live with limiting
myself to ISO1000 like I used to do with my D200, but I really like
having the dynamic range of the D300. If it weren't for that, I'd
just pick up a used D80 for CAD$500.

larsbc
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You could pickup a refurb D90 for $699 if you'd like to also have HDV.
 
Art Vandelay II said:
Art Vandelay II said:
BillCarr wrote:
You don't do much travel or street photography then. Go tell pros
like Bob Krist and the late Galen Rowell that their choices of D90
and N65 respectively are silly and they need to get to the gym more.
A half pound makes a considerable difference in the course of the day
if you're hiking or holding the camera in your hand for literally
hours.
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I wouldn't notice 1/2 pound of savings in the slightest.
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You would if you were holding the camera all day.

So ultimately it's you versus street shooters and pros who do travel photography and who hike and travel with their gear. :)
 
ianz28 said:
BillCarr said:
If you are too lazy or disputatious to look at reviews and see the
improvements made across the board by new lenses, the feel free to
wait for the sun to rise in the West
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So based on your logic / assessment. Computer designed lenses are
better because computerized tests tell you so.
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Your reply is a silly rejoinder based on faulty logic. That's my assessment. ;)
 
Cheaper and easier to make doesn't necessarily mean less good except maybe to a gear freak. The results I get from my D200 CCD are as good as from my D300 CMOS just maybe a tweak more sat needed sometimes, rather like using Kodak film instead of Velvia.
 
ianz28 said:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=13056277
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figured something like that would shut you up BillCarr.

Before you reply or continue. Troll much?

Your posting history has 0 photo's. Like 3-4 posts where you are the originator. You post in Sony, Olympus, Nikon, Pentax, and Canon forums. You have no website listed. Based on everything I saw and didnt see in your posting history I feel it safe to say that you are the stereotypical "troll".
 
I would take the D5000 for the flipscreen and because the D200 honestly is so-so.

If you want to go for a more solid camera get a used D90 or a used D300 which should be about the same price as the D5000.
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