G1 Due Diligence Continued

I have a Nikon D80 and a Canon 40D. Both are dslr's. I'm not sure what ya means by cumbersome using live view. There are lots of features on the Nikon and Canon cameras I use the LCD for. Composition is not one of them, so I'm not using the LCD live view for composing, either. I'm using it at times for histo and grid lines (well, I guess grid lines help composing). I'm not sure I get how the 410 is more cumbersome that one of those dslrs, as I frequently use them and found the 410, just getting it delivered yesterday, to be pretty darn easy. I ain't shootin' action sports.

But this is a G1 thread anyway, and was started to get view and info and feedback on it. I just gave my reasons for not picking it. I think these threads will be very useful for anyone contemplating such a purchase.
....for anything other than a tripod it is a very cumbersome setup to
use live view. So for you the setup is brilliant but for many it is
not ideal. Enjoy it.

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terry
http://tbanet.zenfolio.com/
 
Thanks for dropping the name clown and troll on me. Gee you're a nice person :)

But this is a G1 thread anyway, and was started to get views and info and feedback on it. I just gave my reasons for not picking it. I think these threads will be very useful for anyone contemplating such a purchase.

Yup the LX3 is a special camera. Takes great pics. But for me it was just too darn hard to use for some settings I need, like setting ap or shutter, bracketing, and self-timer. All must use joystick. That combined with the small tiny font in LCD that ya have to navigate the joystick with, and on a sunny day if you're doing more than just pointing and shooting it's a royal pain and takes forever. And because of that I ran through batteries pretty quickly. So yes it's a super pic-taking machine but for me was just too hard to use.

Please read for content, forgetwhat8was4. And then maybe you won't call people names and be so negative. Go find some good karma and zen - you can sure use it :) Cheers, mate.
Come on guys and gals. What kind of clown sells a special camera
like the LX3 and buys a back-issue stripped DSLR from Olympus and
then spends all his time in the Panasonic folder talking about it???
Just ignore him.
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I have a G1 which I use in concert with a Fuji S3 and S5 and a Nikon D2x. I traded a E-510 for the Panny, which I use as a camera for Hiking, skiing, Mountainbiking, Kayaking,etc...
I really like this camera. Advantages over the Olympus:
Smaller size.
Significantly better resolution, DR.
EVF with 100% view, no light path back to the sensor.
No mirror shock, can use much lighter camera support.
Live view histogram even in viewfinder.
did I mention the size?
Thing I miss:
In body IS
The use of my 11-22 f2.8 Zuiko (no firmware update yet)



Henry F. Smith Jr
Http: www.glensummitimage.com
 
All I was saying is that Live View on a dslr is best utilized on a tripod and is more cumbersome to use handheld for normal shooting. The live view on the E410 works well for you because you've stated a number of times that you as pretty exclusively using a tripod.

What I truly don't get is the need/desire for the 410 when you now say you have two other dslrs. I have multiple cameras but it is in the form of one rangefinder, one dslr and the g1. All very different.
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terry
http://tbanet.zenfolio.com/
 
Hey Villebon Dude:

Got the 410 today. Spent about 15 minutes setting things up in menus.
Took all of like 45 seconds to set up Live View to see live
histograms and grid lines.

Thanks for the mis-information. You were just wrong. It DOES have
live histo, and it's quite easy to use.
Have a chip on your shoulder?

If the live histogram on the e-410 suits you then fine, you're all set. The implementation is different on the G1 and would not want to go back to what I had with my e-510.

And if you see no difference between the G1 and e-410 then fine.

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Villebon
 
I did see a difference - the 410 is an older model that was $400 less expensive than the G1. The G1 is new technology. It has an issue with the setting wheel expressed by many many people. It's smaller that 410. It's batteries are chipped and cost aroound $80 US. The 410 is a pretty simple pic taking platform. Sure they are different. Never said they weren't. Heck I shot a one man show for a gallery with a Pentax K1000. I'm used to simple pic taking machines :)

I don't have no chip on my shoulder, mate. I'm just correcting the mis-information you published.
Hey Villebon Dude:

Got the 410 today. Spent about 15 minutes setting things up in menus.
Took all of like 45 seconds to set up Live View to see live
histograms and grid lines.

Thanks for the mis-information. You were just wrong. It DOES have
live histo, and it's quite easy to use.
Have a chip on your shoulder?

If the live histogram on the e-410 suits you then fine, you're all
set. The implementation is different on the G1 and would not want to
go back to what I had with my e-510.

And if you see no difference between the G1 and e-410 then fine.

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Villebon
 
. . . . However, electronic
viewfinders are clearly superior . . . .
Except for the view freeze in burst mode, presumably.

(Sorry Terry)

Mike
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FZ8, F20, E410 (14-42mm, 40-150mm kit)
Favourite Things, No. 1: NR that can be switched OFF
 
It's big! Just a lovely viewfinder so long as you aren't moving fast with it.
 
It's big! Just a lovely viewfinder so long as you aren't moving fast
with it.
Exactly. I love the FZ8's WYSIWYG advantage and miss it badly on an OVF. Also I do all my reviewing on the EVF, never on the LCD, and I really miss that too when using the OVF. For everything except moving targets, I prefer the EVF. I bought the E410 as a cheap route into action photography and a larger sensor, and am enjoying both.

Mike
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FZ8, F20, E410 (14-42mm, 40-150mm kit)
Favourite Things, No. 1: NR that can be switched OFF
 

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