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$950 for a 43/1.9? Is it $650 better than the 50/1.4? $800 better than a competitor 50/1.8? I think this price increase is just as unreasonable as that of the 50-135/2.8.
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Dbennison wrote:
Hi Dave,
at the regular price equal to what it cost them to purchase it from Pentax
do you?" ..... Just because, it isn't
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Hi Dave,
Obviously, Henry's is doing the honourable thing and leaving their stock
at the regular price equal to what it cost them to purchase it from Pentax
Just to clarify; "Dave, you don't mean the shop where I work in Vancouver,
do you?" ..... Just because, it isn't
I hope not, hopefully, it is as I mention in my inital answer above
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I hope, for people in the Toronto area, NOT
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Ditto pour moi ... and that includes: FBA, CBA and, maybe even, CBBA
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Hi Prog,
Yowza, I think not ...and, taking in account the current FA 50/1.4
pricing, I think it should be $750
IMHO, I think the DA 50-135 is a "MORE" unreasonable price hike but,
simply, because I think the DA 50-135 is a much more useful lens
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noser
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FYI, The Camera Store still lists the 50-135 as $929.33 and as in-stock.
This might be a good last-ditch price, assuming the price changes magically at midnight.
N.
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This might be a good last-ditch price, assuming the price changes magically at midnight.
N.
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Robert Schultz
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waited a long tim for the new 50mm 1.4 sdm,... but $800+ autsch,...
and nikon came out with a nifty 35mm 1.8 af-s for $200
so the 50mm 1.4 for under $500 and the 35mm 1.8 for $200,
and they have bodies to go with it, aka, like the LCD, and the live view for manual focus too,...
the reason canon is big, because of cheaper, or available long lenses,...
now if they could deliver some camera bodies, with the associated LBA,
the equation would work profit, but on the same token, most local stores, don't really have it in stock, and there is no competitive body to go along with it,
aka FF, LCD, live view, video, etc,... so a catch 22
one more, just don't see it justified, to pay $800+ for a 50mm 1.4 from pentax,
that is more expensive then a zeiss, even if it has AF, now if all other lenses are going that way, it would even make more sense, to go / push full frame, even with screwdriver lenses, my buddy has a bunch of old AIS lenses, what perform very well on full frame.
guess one more,... with option like sigma and tamron, unfortunatly they come out late or not at all with lenses , that are available for nikon or canon, what makes it a double trouble for pentax.
does this make sense to anybody else ?
and nikon came out with a nifty 35mm 1.8 af-s for $200
so the 50mm 1.4 for under $500 and the 35mm 1.8 for $200,
and they have bodies to go with it, aka, like the LCD, and the live view for manual focus too,...
the reason canon is big, because of cheaper, or available long lenses,...
now if they could deliver some camera bodies, with the associated LBA,
the equation would work profit, but on the same token, most local stores, don't really have it in stock, and there is no competitive body to go along with it,
aka FF, LCD, live view, video, etc,... so a catch 22
one more, just don't see it justified, to pay $800+ for a 50mm 1.4 from pentax,
that is more expensive then a zeiss, even if it has AF, now if all other lenses are going that way, it would even make more sense, to go / push full frame, even with screwdriver lenses, my buddy has a bunch of old AIS lenses, what perform very well on full frame.
guess one more,... with option like sigma and tamron, unfortunatly they come out late or not at all with lenses , that are available for nikon or canon, what makes it a double trouble for pentax.
does this make sense to anybody else ?
Jack Simpson
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noser wrote:
Hi Noel,
If I had to guess, TCS will keep their 50-135 at the $930 mark until someone
more they will be ordering in
is still at $930 -- http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/catalog/slr-lenses/pentax-da-50-135-f28-ed-sdm
Cheers,
Jack
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Hi Noel,
If I had to guess, TCS will keep their 50-135 at the $930 mark until someone
is smart to pick it up ... cause when it's gone .... I don't know how many
more they will be ordering in
...well, it's 1:37am in Vancouver (and 2:37am in Calgary) and the prices
is still at $930 -- http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/catalog/slr-lenses/pentax-da-50-135-f28-ed-sdm
Cheers,
Jack
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AirV
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I make the choice to leave Pentax for Nikon. I can't no longer support to ask me what will be the futur of Pentax (market evolution, Pentax orientation and strategy...) when I would like to buy a lens.
noser
Leading Member
Yes, TCS seems very agressive on price.
I must make a point of checking the 645 counter too. I'll have to save a bit for the new body, but I wouldnt't mind a few of the old med format lenses before demand drives their price up.
Now THAT is an upgrade.
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I must make a point of checking the 645 counter too. I'll have to save a bit for the new body, but I wouldnt't mind a few of the old med format lenses before demand drives their price up.
Now THAT is an upgrade.
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Hi Noel,If I had to guess, TCS will keep their 50-135 at the $930 mark until
someone
is smart to pick it up ... cause when it's gone .... I don't know how
many
more they will be ordering in
I checked this (Wed Apr 1) afternoon and they have shot the price up
I ordered a DA 50-135 (along with a couple of other lenses and flashes)earlier in
March hoping to get them at the lower cost and was told that if they arrived in
time I would receive them but if they didnt I would have to re-order them at
the higher cost
I contacted Pentax today and, so far, no word on the back order situation........... so far
Cheers,
Jack
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AirV wrote:
Hi A_V,
of purchasing Pentax up until you heard about the price increase ??
Cheers and good luck with your Nikon
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Hi A_V,
So, you have Pentax gear but now want to sell it? Or you were thinking
of purchasing Pentax
up until you heard about the price increase ??Cheers and good luck with your Nikon
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Craig266
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I am leaving Pentax, not buying Nikon and putting the money into the $10 disposable cardboard Kodak cameras you get in the WalMart check-out lane in every big box location throughout North America!!!
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noser
Leading Member
Yikes! Although that seems like a disaster for them, once the stock arrives they are stuck with it if you choose to not re-order.I ordered a DA 50-135 (along with a couple of other lenses and
flashes)earlier in
March hoping to get them at the lower cost and was told that if they
arrived in
time I would receive them but if they didnt I would have to re-order
them at
the higher cost
word on the
back order situation........... so far
Cheers,
Jack
And too bad about TCS prices.
But I'm still going there to put some nose prints on the 645 display case (hence my pseudonym...) I remember a year or so ago when they had it at the back of the store ... the clerk said they had basically bought out ALL of Pentax Canada stock of 645 stuff. It's picked over now, but there are still some lenses there.
Also I think I heard the local Pentax rep hangs out there, probably doing rounds as Saneal is down the street. I'd like to run into him (Bill? Bruce? Bob?) and give him a good grilling on how hair-brained this price move is.
At least I don't have to buy new lenses. Ever. If I want any of the primes (and I do) it'll be aftermarket.
N.
'They can have my Pentax when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers'
noser
Leading Member
Ok, I'll bite.
My favorite is of course the 50mm f/1.2. It has a better build than the 1.4, and of course the images are just dreamy.
Oh, and it plus an old film body (that still works!) was only $35. Score!!!
It was a 28-70 f/4, and it's basically junk, only good for outdoor daylight. It's not tack sharp unless stopped down to at least f/8.
My understanding is that the newer kit lenses are much more respected, but I don't own any.
But I do take your point, the reason they haul all those heavy FF lenses around behind Tiger Woods is because they have no choice.
I haven't purchased my Bigma yet. Probably for Africa in the fall of 2010; that's when I need longer glass.
However I keep seeing these lovely 600mm f/4's (?) pop up on ebay, and they are only $2200 ish. Factor in the crop, and that's like having a Hubble on your Pentax!!!
As for video... that's a great big fat 'meh'. Who cares? Focus assist? Nope. HD Audio? huh. How about nice long Hitchcock cuts... oh wait, no the sensor would melt.
For the price, it's better to pick up a good Canon Vixia.
As for others... Pentax have LCD's... and Live View. So nothing to say there.
Oh, and weather sealing; that's important. In Paris I saw so many tourists running and hiding when it rained; trying to keep their investments dry. At least I had all of Notre Dame to myself
Did you mention SR? No? I love SR. Because it works with all my classic glass. All of it. Even the stuff that's M42 screw mount.
I'd like to see a new sensor; the K20D sensor is excellent compared to the K10D, but no more MP!!! 15 MP maximum, but high ISO with neither NR nor noise. I prefer the choice that Pentax has gone to leave NR to the photographer; I'd rather not have noise at all.
I'd like a nice heavy, metal body, too. Something about 1.5 times the weight of a K20D and grip. It would even more stable. As it is I can hike all day with it in my hand and don't tire. But I would like the security of a nice metal shell when I'm scrambling and it's in my pack.
And ultimately, I don't see what difference most of this makes.
All of these cameras, from the oldest ist, Digital Rebel or 1D, to the newest D3x or 645D take nice images. They have, essentially, the same glass options. Used properly they all have the potential to amaze.
But this is basically a gear forum, so talking about the most important upgrade of all - the one between your ears - is uncommon.
N.
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'They can have my Pentax when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers'
I don't wait for lenses. I buy what I need when it's available. I needed a good 50mm, so I bought 4 in that range. (50's and cheapo 55's)
My favorite is of course the 50mm f/1.2. It has a better build than the 1.4, and of course the images are just dreamy.
Oh, and it plus an old film body (that still works!) was only $35. Score!!!
I did buy a Pentax lens for under $200 once. ONCE.
It was a 28-70 f/4, and it's basically junk, only good for outdoor daylight. It's not tack sharp unless stopped down to at least f/8.
My understanding is that the newer kit lenses are much more respected, but I don't own any.
My K20D live view is once of those consumer features that only serves to drain the battery. I used it once when I got the body. What a waste. I much prefer to manual focus with my O-ME53. Things just POP into focus.
Sure, for the legions of cat-food eating football photographers that all have back problems.
But I do take your point, the reason they haul all those heavy FF lenses around behind Tiger Woods is because they have no choice.
I haven't purchased my Bigma yet. Probably for Africa in the fall of 2010; that's when I need longer glass.
However I keep seeing these lovely 600mm f/4's (?) pop up on ebay, and they are only $2200 ish. Factor in the crop, and that's like having a Hubble on your Pentax!!!
You can keep your FF, thanks. Too darn heavy for mountain climbing here (I live in Calgary, and play in the Rockies)
As for video... that's a great big fat 'meh'. Who cares? Focus assist? Nope. HD Audio? huh. How about nice long Hitchcock cuts... oh wait, no the sensor would melt.
For the price, it's better to pick up a good Canon Vixia.
As for others... Pentax have LCD's... and Live View. So nothing to say there.
Oh, and weather sealing; that's important. In Paris I saw so many tourists running and hiding when it rained; trying to keep their investments dry. At least I had all of Notre Dame to myself
Did you mention SR? No? I love SR. Because it works with all my classic glass. All of it. Even the stuff that's M42 screw mount.
Yes, agreed they are smoking something funny there. I just don't understand.
I've tried Zeiss, and like it very much. Very nice color rendition, bokeh. They will probably make some money off me this year.
I'm still not sold on FF. Too heavy, and the manufacturers insist on shoving more pixels on them. If you could have a 12 - 15 MP FF sensor, that's ok. Any more and you just have to do too much for noise reduction with small photosites.
Now that SDM is understood I'd expect Sigma to release Pentax at the same time as C/N. But it's nice to see C/N buyers review them first, before I spend my money on them. They aren't all winners.
Somewhat... I agree that Pentax has it's head up it's collective .... well, you know. I think they are trying to build an elitist brand, but they are going about it wrong. Ordering Pentax online from the same store that you buy hammers and nails? What are they thinking? I can name other companies that I'd expect that of. But they are all just empty brands now; licensed names to companies that have no photographic heritage at all: Kodak. Polaroid. Vivitar...
I'd like to see a new sensor; the K20D sensor is excellent compared to the K10D, but no more MP!!! 15 MP maximum, but high ISO with neither NR nor noise. I prefer the choice that Pentax has gone to leave NR to the photographer; I'd rather not have noise at all.
I'd like a nice heavy, metal body, too. Something about 1.5 times the weight of a K20D and grip. It would even more stable. As it is I can hike all day with it in my hand and don't tire. But I would like the security of a nice metal shell when I'm scrambling and it's in my pack.
And ultimately, I don't see what difference most of this makes.
All of these cameras, from the oldest ist, Digital Rebel or 1D, to the newest D3x or 645D take nice images. They have, essentially, the same glass options. Used properly they all have the potential to amaze.
But this is basically a gear forum, so talking about the most important upgrade of all - the one between your ears - is uncommon.
N.
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Craig266 wrote:
Hi Craig,
Nikon but I implore you not to buy any Kodak Disposable Cameras
BUT rather this New (and rather interesting) Kodak Digital camera --
the Kodak eyeCamera 4.1 --see below for specs and accessories, etc...
http://www.imaginginsider.com/?p=89256
Cheers and I hope, at some point, you do come back to Pentax
Jack
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Hi Craig,
It's sad that you're leaving Pentax but I'm glad you're not buying
Nikon but I implore you not to buy any Kodak Disposable Cameras
BUT rather this New (and rather interesting) Kodak Digital camera --
the Kodak eyeCamera 4.1 --see below for specs and accessories, etc...
http://www.imaginginsider.com/?p=89256
Cheers and I hope, at some point, you do come back to Pentax
Jack
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noser wrote:
Hi Noel,
head to the bottom of this post ....
Cheers,
Jack
Hi Noel,
head to the bottom of this post ....
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/47538/Excellent-speechOk, I'll bite.
I don't wait for lenses. I buy what I need when it's available. I
needed a good 50mm, so I bought 4 in that range. (50's and cheapo
55's)
My favorite is of course the 50mm f/1.2. It has a better build than
the 1.4, and of course the images are just dreamy.
Oh, and it plus an old film body (that still works!) was only $35.
Score!!!
I did buy a Pentax lens for under $200 once. ONCE.
It was a 28-70 f/4, and it's basically junk, only good for outdoor
daylight. It's not tack sharp unless stopped down to at least f/8.
My understanding is that the newer kit lenses are much more
respected, but I don't own any.
My K20D live view is once of those consumer features that only serves
to drain the battery. I used it once when I got the body. What a
waste. I much prefer to manual focus with my O-ME53. Things just POP
into focus.
Sure, for the legions of cat-food eating football photographers that
all have back problems.
But I do take your point, the reason they haul all those heavy FF
lenses around behind Tiger Woods is because they have no choice.
I haven't purchased my Bigma yet. Probably for Africa in the fall of
2010; that's when I need longer glass.
However I keep seeing these lovely 600mm f/4's (?) pop up on ebay,
and they are only $2200 ish. Factor in the crop, and that's like
having a Hubble on your Pentax!!!
You can keep your FF, thanks. Too darn heavy for mountain climbing
here (I live in Calgary, and play in the Rockies)
As for video... that's a great big fat 'meh'. Who cares? Focus
assist? Nope. HD Audio? huh. How about nice long Hitchcock cuts... oh
wait, no the sensor would melt.
For the price, it's better to pick up a good Canon Vixia.
As for others... Pentax have LCD's... and Live View. So nothing to
say there.
Oh, and weather sealing; that's important. In Paris I saw so many
tourists running and hiding when it rained; trying to keep their
investments dry. At least I had all of Notre Dame to myself
Did you mention SR? No? I love SR. Because it works with all my
classic glass. All of it. Even the stuff that's M42 screw mount.
Yes, agreed they are smoking something funny there. I just don't
understand.
I've tried Zeiss, and like it very much. Very nice color rendition,
bokeh. They will probably make some money off me this year.
I'm still not sold on FF. Too heavy, and the manufacturers insist on
shoving more pixels on them. If you could have a 12 - 15 MP FF
sensor, that's ok. Any more and you just have to do too much for
noise reduction with small photosites.
Now that SDM is understood I'd expect Sigma to release Pentax at the
same time as C/N. But it's nice to see C/N buyers review them first,
before I spend my money on them. They aren't all winners.
Somewhat... I agree that Pentax has it's head up it's collective ....
well, you know. I think they are trying to build an elitist brand,
but they are going about it wrong. Ordering Pentax online from the
same store that you buy hammers and nails? What are they thinking? I
can name other companies that I'd expect that of. But they are all
just empty brands now; licensed names to companies that have no
photographic heritage at all: Kodak. Polaroid. Vivitar...
I'd like to see a new sensor; the K20D sensor is excellent compared
to the K10D, but no more MP!!! 15 MP maximum, but high ISO with
neither NR nor noise. I prefer the choice that Pentax has gone to
leave NR to the photographer; I'd rather not have noise at all.
I'd like a nice heavy, metal body, too. Something about 1.5 times the
weight of a K20D and grip. It would even more stable. As it is I can
hike all day with it in my hand and don't tire. But I would like the
security of a nice metal shell when I'm scrambling and it's in my
pack.
And ultimately, I don't see what difference most of this makes.
All of these cameras, from the oldest ist, Digital Rebel or 1D, to
the newest D3x or 645D take nice images. They have, essentially, the
same glass options. Used properly they all have the potential to
amaze.
But this is basically a gear forum, so talking about the most
important upgrade of all - the one between your ears - is uncommon.
Cheers,
Jack
Jack Simpson
Forum Pro
Hi Noel,I ordered a DA 50-135 (along with a couple of other lenses and
flashes)earlier in
March hoping to get them at the lower cost and was told that if they
arrived in
time I would receive them but if they didnt I would have to re-order
them at
the higher cost
word on the
back order situation........... so far
Cheers,
Jack
I don't think Pentax would get too upset if we were to cancel our itty-btty order...
simply because we are just a "very, very small fish" in a very larger ocean ..
...... mind you, the same could hold true for Canon and Nikon, as well ;D
I'll say and quite surprising .... to me
Ah ha .... ;D
I suspect you grilling will go something like this:
1) http://www.entertonement.com/clips/44332/What-in-blazes-are-you-talking-about
2) http://www.entertonement.com/clips/47536/I-cannot-be-stopped
3) http://www.entertonement.com/clips/47541/When-next-we-meet
;D .....
As for me, if it reachs that point .....my retort will be:
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/50114/I 'm-old
Jack
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... 100 post and, also, so I can say:
PENTAX ... http://www.entertonement.com/clips/50103/Comic-Book-Guy
Jack
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PENTAX ... http://www.entertonement.com/clips/50103/Comic-Book-Guy
Jack
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