V-MP3H

i.e. a web site with reviews or someone of you who bought this unit
could let us know his/her opinion.
Hi Tom,

I guess you have already searched "v-mp3h" in this forum.
I have tested it for a while, but not in the real "field".
here's my impression anyways.

Build quality: OK, similar to image tank. Doesn't feel as "solid"
as my canon s30. :) ... just don't drop it.

Size, weight: bigger by about 1cm on thickness and length
compared to image tank. doesn't look or feel "compact" but
remember, it encloses an internal battery and LCD screen.

hard drive installation:
remove 2 backcover screws. attach cable to drive and set it
on two notches. No screws to secure it. There are 4 round
pads on the backcover that will hold it down. I moved the pads
to match the corners of the drive so they won't press on the
drive itself. Installation is a bit clumsy, but once installed, it
sits firmly. i think 9.5mm drives only. no room for more.

Operations:
You turn on unit and it will sense the devices (HDD, CF, SD).
You can hot plug / unplug the CF card. Pressing "auto" copies
all contents of CF card to a new folder "CARDxxxx" where xxxx
is auto-incremented. You can also choose the "copy" function
but that copies into the root directory without creating a new
folder. A full 256mb card copies in less than 2 minutes!

The v-mp3h checks and displays the space left on HDD first
before copying. If filenames already exists, it warns and you
can pick to overwrite them or not.

You can double check by going to HDD and list directory / files
there. Only .jpg, .mp3 .dat . mpg listed. No text or raw
formats support. But gives me the peace of mind to see files
are actually there.

PC operation:
Install driver first, then connect usb. 3 removable drives
will show up. The 2nd one is HDD. totally hot pluggable
with my win98se system. USB link LED is on if USB connects.
Good for debugging connection. Blinks during accesses.

CF card download speed:
I bought this mainly for downloading images in compact flash
to the internal hard disk. Numbers:
CF -> HDD: 2.1MB/s
HDD -> PC: 0.77MB/s
CF -> PC : 0.80MB/s (bypassing HDD)
The "other" way:
PC -> HDD : 0.67 MB/s
PC -> CF : 0.56 MB/s
HDD -> CF : not allowed

LCD display:
The LCD is no way near my canon s30 LCD quality.
picture review is slow. but useful to check what's in the
CF cards (by looking at a few images.) a 3 megapix
image takes 7-9 seconds. Smaller size images are fast.

MP3: i don't care for this feature. tried it. it's OK, I guess.

MPEG: don't care either, but I loaded a .dat format movie
and it plays very very well. Cool.

TV out: Either NTSC or PAL only. Not both.

Battery life:
no scientific test yet. seems to run at least an hour.
probably much more. 1 hour gives me quite a few gigs of
downloads in the field, so I'm not worried. My camera
will probably need a recharge sooner than the v-mp3h.

other issues:
hot - it does get hot with LCD display on all the time.
Not an issue if I use it to download CF cards only.
Lock/unlock switch - cool feature. locks buttons so
you won't turn on unit accidentally.
Multiple partitions - haven't tried it, but don't think it;s
supported. Not important to me using 1 partition.

price:
US$220 (including tax, shipping) from compgeeks.com .
Compared to IT, personally i think it's worth the ~$50 extra.
But if you already have an IT, don't think you need this.
Anyhow, in absolute terms, I think it's still expensive for
a rather simple device... (same goes for image tank).
Hmm... maybe I should build one myself... :)
UK prices look way expensive, IMHO.

overall: I like it as far as data storage is concerned.
would be perfect if JPG display is faster, supports RAW,
thumbnails display, text display, umm... what else? :)

phew, that's all for now. let me know if you want
me to test something out...
  • submicron
 
Thanks for all this vry useful information
i.e. a web site with reviews or someone of you who bought this unit
could let us know his/her opinion.
Hi Tom,

I guess you have already searched "v-mp3h" in this forum.
I have tested it for a while, but not in the real "field".
here's my impression anyways.

Build quality: OK, similar to image tank. Doesn't feel as "solid"
as my canon s30. :) ... just don't drop it.

Size, weight: bigger by about 1cm on thickness and length
compared to image tank. doesn't look or feel "compact" but
remember, it encloses an internal battery and LCD screen.

hard drive installation:
remove 2 backcover screws. attach cable to drive and set it
on two notches. No screws to secure it. There are 4 round
pads on the backcover that will hold it down. I moved the pads
to match the corners of the drive so they won't press on the
drive itself. Installation is a bit clumsy, but once installed, it
sits firmly. i think 9.5mm drives only. no room for more.

Operations:
You turn on unit and it will sense the devices (HDD, CF, SD).
You can hot plug / unplug the CF card. Pressing "auto" copies
all contents of CF card to a new folder "CARDxxxx" where xxxx
is auto-incremented. You can also choose the "copy" function
but that copies into the root directory without creating a new
folder. A full 256mb card copies in less than 2 minutes!

The v-mp3h checks and displays the space left on HDD first
before copying. If filenames already exists, it warns and you
can pick to overwrite them or not.

You can double check by going to HDD and list directory / files
there. Only .jpg, .mp3 .dat . mpg listed. No text or raw
formats support. But gives me the peace of mind to see files
are actually there.

PC operation:
Install driver first, then connect usb. 3 removable drives
will show up. The 2nd one is HDD. totally hot pluggable
with my win98se system. USB link LED is on if USB connects.
Good for debugging connection. Blinks during accesses.

CF card download speed:
I bought this mainly for downloading images in compact flash
to the internal hard disk. Numbers:
CF -> HDD: 2.1MB/s
HDD -> PC: 0.77MB/s
CF -> PC : 0.80MB/s (bypassing HDD)
The "other" way:
PC -> HDD : 0.67 MB/s
PC -> CF : 0.56 MB/s
HDD -> CF : not allowed

LCD display:
The LCD is no way near my canon s30 LCD quality.
picture review is slow. but useful to check what's in the
CF cards (by looking at a few images.) a 3 megapix
image takes 7-9 seconds. Smaller size images are fast.

MP3: i don't care for this feature. tried it. it's OK, I guess.

MPEG: don't care either, but I loaded a .dat format movie
and it plays very very well. Cool.

TV out: Either NTSC or PAL only. Not both.

Battery life:
no scientific test yet. seems to run at least an hour.
probably much more. 1 hour gives me quite a few gigs of
downloads in the field, so I'm not worried. My camera
will probably need a recharge sooner than the v-mp3h.

other issues:
hot - it does get hot with LCD display on all the time.
Not an issue if I use it to download CF cards only.
Lock/unlock switch - cool feature. locks buttons so
you won't turn on unit accidentally.
Multiple partitions - haven't tried it, but don't think it;s
supported. Not important to me using 1 partition.

price:
US$220 (including tax, shipping) from compgeeks.com .
Compared to IT, personally i think it's worth the ~$50 extra.
But if you already have an IT, don't think you need this.
Anyhow, in absolute terms, I think it's still expensive for
a rather simple device... (same goes for image tank).
Hmm... maybe I should build one myself... :)
UK prices look way expensive, IMHO.

overall: I like it as far as data storage is concerned.
would be perfect if JPG display is faster, supports RAW,
thumbnails display, text display, umm... what else? :)

phew, that's all for now. let me know if you want
me to test something out...
  • submicron
 
You're lucky, submicron.

Computer Greeks sold V-MP3H at a unusual low price (very low profits), even the manufacturer of V-MP3H doesn't believe how could Computer Greeks sold V-MP3H at such a low price.

Arthur.
 
thanks Arthur,

Indeed, v-mp3h have been reliable so far.
Did you get a v-mp3h as well?
If so, what's your experience with it like?

i did a battery test with a full charge :
  • turn on unit
  • transfer 128mb CF to hard drive (takes 1 min)
  • auto view files on LCD for 2-3 minutes
(to simulate review after downloading)
  • turn off
  • repeat
I was able to download about 30 times.
I should be able to download more if I don't do a review
after the download.

When the unit shut off, battery indicator still had 1 bar (out of 4) left.
I tried to turn it on again. LCD turned on, but unit shut it down
again when it tried to access the drive. Looks like the hard disk is
taking quite a bit of current to start up.
  • submicron
You're lucky, submicron.
Computer Greeks sold V-MP3H at a unusual low price (very low
profits), even the manufacturer of V-MP3H doesn't believe how could
Computer Greeks sold V-MP3H at such a low price.

Arthur.
 
Yes, I've got my V-MP3H.

Actually, I have 2 V-MP3H now. One for me, and the other one for my farther. Unfortunately, he doesn't like it. He think V-MP3H is too big to carry. So if anyone wanna buy it, please contact me privately.

OK, back to the topic....

For V-MP3H, I think you get what you pay, even you get one for $300.

It's a Image Tank with built-in battery, a MP3 player, a movie player...., etc. Especially, I like "TV-out" function, because I don't need to make a photo CD anymore. All I have to do is "plug and play"

I've tried to play a .DAT movie file. After it played about 2 hours (with built-in LCD), I could still copy files from a 256MB CF card. (I just tried once, so I didn't know how many times I could copy)

The HDD requires a high current when it boots up, so you should copy all your CF/SD/MMC cards at the same time, then turn it off. If you turn it on, copy one card, turn it off, 10 mins later turn it on, copy another card...., then the battery can't last too long.

The other point I like it is:
I can upgrage a larger HDD without void any warranty.

As you know, users can't exchange HDDs by their own if they use Digital Wallet, Vista, Mindstor.... Just imageine how much you have to pay to get a 30GB Vista?

For people who plan to buy a Image tank w/ PowerBank, I think they should consider V-MP3H at first.

Arthur
 
I PURCHASED THIS UNIT IN HONG KONG, I CAN'T READ OUT THE DATA UNDER WINDOWS XP BUT IT WORKS UNDER 98.
I HAVE SENT THE E-MAIL TO THE MANUFACTURER BUT THERE IS STILL NO REPLY!!!!!!
IS THERE ANYBODY CAN HELP???!!!!!
Hello,

I saw this product on http://www.card-media.co.uk/vmp3h.htm and I would
like to get more info about this unit.

i.e. a web site with reviews or someone of you who bought this unit
could let us know his/her opinion.

Thanks
Tom
 
I PURCHASED THIS UNIT IN HONG KONG, I CAN'T READ OUT THE DATA
UNDER WINDOWS XP BUT IT WORKS UNDER 98.
umm... more information?
Is the "USB link" led on v-mp3h lit up when you connect usb?
did the unit shows up as removable drives in XP?
what happens when you double click on it?
try a different usb port?
are you using XP's own driver or driver that comes with the unit?
what does the "device manager..." say?
 
Hi gingerwn,

where in HK did you find it?

Thanks!
I PURCHASED THIS UNIT IN HONG KONG, I CAN'T READ OUT THE DATA
UNDER WINDOWS XP BUT IT WORKS UNDER 98.
I HAVE SENT THE E-MAIL TO THE MANUFACTURER BUT THERE IS STILL NO
REPLY!!!!!!
IS THERE ANYBODY CAN HELP???!!!!!
 
1)the usb led lit up first,but then die!!!!!!!

2)3 removable drives can be shown in XP,sometimes it can show the file name and even (( some )) preview in the HD or the cards,then die again!!!!!!!!!!!

3)when i tried to install the drivers,XP said there is no need to install the drivers.
4)every port have been tried
5)there is no error in the device manager
I PURCHASED THIS UNIT IN HONG KONG, I CAN'T READ OUT THE DATA
UNDER WINDOWS XP BUT IT WORKS UNDER 98.
umm... more information?
Is the "USB link" led on v-mp3h lit up when you connect usb?
did the unit shows up as removable drives in XP?
what happens when you double click on it?
try a different usb port?
are you using XP's own driver or driver that comes with the unit?
what does the "device manager..." say?
 
sorry, I have only win98se and win 2000.
I think Karlton Kam of this forum has tried XP? See thread at:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1023&message=2970615

some more things to try:
have you tried powering it directly with the ac adaptor?
what's the battery indicator level like?
if you're using an USB hub, remove it.
Is the drive already formatted?

but then you said it works with 98...
so it could just be an XP problem.
I PURCHASED THIS UNIT IN HONG KONG, I CAN'T READ OUT THE DATA
UNDER WINDOWS XP BUT IT WORKS UNDER 98.
umm... more information?
Is the "USB link" led on v-mp3h lit up when you connect usb?
did the unit shows up as removable drives in XP?
what happens when you double click on it?
try a different usb port?
are you using XP's own driver or driver that comes with the unit?
what does the "device manager..." say?
 
Hi,Submicron,
thank you for your help!!
at least,there is somebody care my case!!!!the manufacturer still not reply!!!
some more things to try:
have you tried powering it directly with the ac adaptor?
what's the battery indicator level like?
if you're using an USB hub, remove it.
Is the drive already formatted?

but then you said it works with 98...
so it could just be an XP problem.
I PURCHASED THIS UNIT IN HONG KONG, I CAN'T READ OUT THE DATA
UNDER WINDOWS XP BUT IT WORKS UNDER 98.
umm... more information?
Is the "USB link" led on v-mp3h lit up when you connect usb?
did the unit shows up as removable drives in XP?
what happens when you double click on it?
try a different usb port?
are you using XP's own driver or driver that comes with the unit?
what does the "device manager..." say?
 
hi JL,
can u buy the v-mp3h??
you can find out some information in the e-zone for this week.

the guy of the digital cam world is very good!!!! i can return the unit and buy other dc !!!!!

some of my friend using this unit happily,they don't know why my unit not work in the XP!!!

but now it is not the matter anymore,i bought the sony pcg-c1mah.it is very good!!!!!!!
gingerwn
where in HK did you find it?

Thanks!
I PURCHASED THIS UNIT IN HONG KONG, I CAN'T READ OUT THE DATA
UNDER WINDOWS XP BUT IT WORKS UNDER 98.
I HAVE SENT THE E-MAIL TO THE MANUFACTURER BUT THERE IS STILL NO
REPLY!!!!!!
IS THERE ANYBODY CAN HELP???!!!!!
--
Regards,
James
 
hi JL,
can u buy the v-mp3h??
haven't got the time to do a visit yet... do they have units in stock?
you can find out some information in the e-zone for this week.
oh yes? maybe I'll get a copy
the guy of the digital cam world is very good!!!! i can return the
unit and buy other dc !!!!!
does that mean I've got a chance to pick your returned one up, which fails in WinXP?! : >
some of my friend using this unit happily,they don't know why my
unit not work in the XP!!!
so you mean you friends' units worked well in WinXP?
but now it is not the matter anymore,i bought the sony pcg-c1mah.it
is very good!!!!!!!
gingerwn
 
hi JL
hi JL,
can u buy the v-mp3h??
haven't got the time to do a visit yet... do they have units in stock?
I THINK THEY STILL GET SOME.
you can find out some information in the e-zone for this week.
oh yes? maybe I'll get a copy
the guy of the digital cam world is very good!!!! i can return the
unit and buy other dc !!!!!
does that mean I've got a chance to pick your returned one up,
which fails in WinXP?! : >
HA HA.................I DON'T KNOW!
some of my friend using this unit happily,they don't know why my
unit not work in the XP!!!
so you mean you friends' units worked well in WinXP?
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but now it is not the matter anymore,i bought the sony pcg-c1mah.it
is very good!!!!!!!
gingerwn
 
When you say "no support' for RAW - does that mean it won't download .CRW RAW files from the CF and from the HD to your PC or just that it won't display a thumbnail photo???

And maybe I missed it, but does this unit act as a Card reader/Writer - bypassing HD to directly upload from CF to PC and allow writes back directly to Cf from PC?
Thanks

--
Regards,
JoeMA
http://www.pbase.com/joema/
 
The VMP3H has the Card reader functionnality as well according to http://www.card-media.co.uk/comparison+chart.htm

Tom
When you say "no support' for RAW - does that mean it won't
download .CRW RAW files from the CF and from the HD to your PC or
just that it won't display a thumbnail photo???

And maybe I missed it, but does this unit act as a Card
reader/Writer - bypassing HD to directly upload from CF to PC and
allow writes back directly to Cf from PC?
Thanks

--
Regards,
JoeMA
http://www.pbase.com/joema/
 
It can downloan any types of files, but it can't show RAW/TIFF files on either LCD or TV. It shows JPEG only.

Arthur.
When you say "no support' for RAW - does that mean it won't
download .CRW RAW files from the CF and from the HD to your PC or
just that it won't display a thumbnail photo???
 

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