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The challenging conditions? I was pulled over in traffic trying to snap the sun going down behind Kansas City, MO.

What do you think? Is there too much noise in the shot? (look at the sky...)



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D7, amateur photog (with pretensions)
 
Hi there,

no there's not too much noise. Print it and you will see. I do see Urban haze....
Sharp photo.
Keep shooting!
HoundEast Photog said:
The challenging conditions? I was pulled over in traffic trying to
snap the sun going down behind Kansas City, MO.

What do you think? Is there too much noise in the shot? (look at
the sky...)



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D7, amateur photog (with pretensions)
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looks like the 7i is the best camera out there for 1 to 1 mapping of urban haze particles to pixels - let's see any other digital camera do that.

seriously, i think it will look great when you print it and the "noise" will give a great textural feel.
Melanie Kipp said:
HoundEast Photog said:
The challenging conditions? I was pulled over in traffic trying to
snap the sun going down behind Kansas City, MO.

What do you think? Is there too much noise in the shot? (look at
the sky...)



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D7, amateur photog (with pretensions)
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I have another, taken yesterday down on Cape Cod at the (failed) whale rescue attempt.

Still OK with the camera's noise?



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Hi,

To me it looks like out of focus. Am I right? Also, I read in one of the posts that 7i doesn't focus to iternity if there's not enough contrast details but to a certain distance? Sorry, don't remember what thread/post nor that distance. Could it be that when a picture out of focus it appears to have much more noise than in focus?
AK
HoundEast Photog said:
I have another, taken yesterday down on Cape Cod at the (failed)
whale rescue attempt.

Still OK with the camera's noise?



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D7, amateur photog (with pretensions)
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I was focussed at infinity, and the range to the guy waving at the whale must have been 800 yards. BTW, this is a D7, not a D7i.

The whale picture is only 1222x950, or about 1/4 the true number of pixels in the original image of 2560x1920. It is a blowup, but not all that extreme.

The pixelised noise does appear in my 8.5x11 laser printout (HP 4550 Color Laser) as well.
sinus said:
Hi,
To me it looks like out of focus. Am I right? Also, I read in one
of the posts that 7i doesn't focus to iternity if there's not
enough contrast details but to a certain distance? Sorry, don't
remember what thread/post nor that distance. Could it be that when
a picture out of focus it appears to have much more noise than in
focus?
AK
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D7, amateur photog (with pretensions)
 
Shoot in the highest quality jpeg or tiff ( I shoot in tiff= 14.1Mb files , though it's been said it's not necessary... I print BIG, so I want all the information I can get , without resorting to RAW mode - I don't like DIVU processing ).
Glad you liked the photo..thank you!
HoundEast Photog said:
BTW, I concur with TerraUnbound - that is a great shot.
Melanie Kipp said:
Have to ask... at what resolution did you shoot this?
I shoot in tiff or the highest quality Jpeg....

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How long does it take to write that TIFF to the CF card? It seems to take me about 30 sec, whereas the jpgs are almost "point and shoot" speed. With an action scene it is hard to work with that time factor. I guess thats one of the major things you buy if you move up from a prosumer camera to something like a Canon or Nikon pro digital 6megapixel body. As for me I am waiting for the 12 Mp Foveon-based SLR with interchangable lenses (for $900!) - that will probably be a pretty stable platform. Wait until 2005 anyone?
Melanie Kipp said:
HoundEast Photog said:
BTW, I concur with TerraUnbound - that is a great shot.
Melanie Kipp said:
Have to ask... at what resolution did you shoot this?
I shoot in tiff or the highest quality Jpeg....

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Please visit me at:
http://www.caughtintimephotography.com
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It takes a good 30 seconds... the SHQ jpegs not so long. I don't do action photography, as a rule, so I can afford to take my time writing those files. The RAW mode should be a bit faster. Have you tried that?
HoundEast Photog said:
Melanie Kipp said:
HoundEast Photog said:
BTW, I concur with TerraUnbound - that is a great shot.
Melanie Kipp said:
Have to ask... at what resolution did you shoot this?
I shoot in tiff or the highest quality Jpeg....

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Please visit me at:
http://www.caughtintimephotography.com
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D7, amateur photog (with pretensions)
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Please visit me at:
http://www.caughtintimephotography.com
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D7, amateur photog (with pretensions)
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Please visit me at:
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HoundEast Photog said:
The challenging conditions? I was pulled over in traffic trying to
snap the sun going down behind Kansas City, MO.

What do you think? Is there too much noise in the shot? (look at
the sky...)
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Yes and no. If this is cropped a little and displayed as a 4x5 print - NO - there is not too much noise. Presented at 8x10 size - YES - IMO, there is too much noise. The most important point to remember is you came back with the shot (even though you must have shot this a high ISO and made a trade-off against noise).

Obviously, you would have wound up with much less noise if you had available to you, at that precise instant in time, an f/1.0 lens that just happened to be attached to a $7000 camera. But, given that camera, chances are you will never have the right lens on at the right time. Rapid response capability is the beauty of your camera - but of course, everything is a tradeoff.

Don't worry about noise, you can't see in on most prints - worry about making big mistakes in exposure. If you had a thousand keepers, how many would you print out at an 8x10 size for display in your house? How many would you print our at a much smaller size? In a typical house - I bet you never have more than ten or twelve 8x10s displayed in your house at one time. Maybe you will make 20, but probably never show more than 10 or 12 at one time on the walls of your house. The remaining 990 or so pictures will be small and displayed in an album at about four to five pictures per album page.

Most of your shots will be at ISO 100, and they will be beautiful. If you want, you will be able to print them at 11x14 without a problem. Oh oh - more wall space down the drain.

Go enjoy your camera and don't worry about noise.

BTW - "challenging conditions" is an understatement - you did a real good job! Good luck with the new camera and thanks for sharing the "mission impossible" picture.

Sincerely,

Joe Kurkjian
 
yeah - far too much noise
Hound said:
I get mixed results with some of my work.
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Hound said:
Look up 'noise problems Dimage 7/7i' on the search engines, and you'll find a number of reviews suggesting that this is a problem with the camera.
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Best Regards CB
HoundEast Photog said:
The challenging conditions? I was pulled over in traffic trying to
snap the sun going down behind Kansas City, MO.

What do you think? Is there too much noise in the shot? (look at
the sky...)



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D7, amateur photog (with pretensions)
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