GH1 is going to be Affordable!

Before talking about relative prices, you need to price DSLRs with a
superzoom lens, not with their usual kit lens. That pushes up the
price considerably.
A Canon 1000D+18-200IS is $1000, and for $700 you can get a two lens
kit that goes from 29-400mm equiv. A Nikon D40 or Oly E-420 is even
cheaper.
They don't shoot video so they aren't relevant to this thread.
Further, indications are that the GH1 is a serious video camera,
whereas the video on DSLRs is little more than a gimmick. The GH1 has
a combination of other features (e.g., articulating LCD and 100%
coverage in the viewfinder) that you won't find in any DSLR.
How is the 5D MK2's video mode a gimmick compared to the GH1? Yes,
the GH1 has AF, and manual control, but the 5D2 has a 36x24 sensor
and hundreds of different compatible lenses. Manual control and/or AF
will surely be in the next implementation. I call this a draw
That's pretty desperate and irrational. The last generation was, what, 2 years ago? So you say that there's a draw between the two cameras shipping now because in 2 yeasrs canon might fix the problems?

Fixing the things that make the 5D pointless for video is going to require new hardware, not just new software. And I doubt they would even do the things that can be done in software.
 
quite often a UI will make it seem like its not doing a conversion.
Doing the conversion outside of the location of the edit would require a lot of CPU horespower and disk space, thus your claim is silly. I'd notice if it was doing that.
you need to know
I don't need anything. You're just bitching, but you haven't given any reason to believe that what you seem to think is the way thing should work is reasonable--- despite me pointing out many times that its not reasonable.

Where's your $1,500 RAW HD camera? I'd like to hear about it. IF none exists then you have no ground to complain about the GH1.
 
At least for video it does, and for images that are less than 12MP, it will use a smaller part of the sensor to give the wider zoom.

So, all these people comparing cheap cameras with lower resolution but "higher zoom" are being silly-- because the GH1 can lower resoltuion and probably beat their zoom.

28mm to 560mm is quite a zoom lens!
 
You can get a cellphone that shoots video for $99 plus 2 year contract.. oh wait, that contract means the phone is about $2,000.

Well, you can get a flip mineo for $100 and a P&S camera for another $100--- and be happy with your $200 investment.

That's fine, but don't even pretend they are the same as this camera, and thus this camera is "Expensive".
I could get an E520, a second lens and a small video camera for less
than the cost of this camera.

--
Al Patterson
 
The pricing of the 14-140 seems to mean that the 'lens' appears to
have deserted the G1, which wasn't really the first impression when
the lens was originally unveiled.
You mean the big red HD on it and all their talk about the unique requirements for video didn't clue you in?

It would be nice if they made a similar lens that was not HD, and cheaper.

But its unreasonable to expect them to produce all the lenses everyone could want in 6 months.
 
--They can get the G1 at the moment yes,but in the future?
I understand the HD video argument,but if Panasonic drop the G1 in
favour of the GH1
Its silly to assume they would do this, and pointless to complain about it when there is no evidence or reason to believe they will.

Even the name of the GH1 is a clue-- the next lineup will be G2 and GH2.

I think you should be happy that you can buy the camera you want without paying for the video stuff you don't need.
 
So, why complain about the price of the GH1?

They're obviously putting out two lines of M43 cameras-- G1, G2, G3, and GH1, GH2, GH3.... they can reve the cameras and the people who want video buy the GH models and the people who don't buy the G models.
I don't do video, so paying extra for this "feature" only wastes
money I could use for an extra lens, or a new camera bag. Or
groceries...

But I do see why the video folks could love this camera.

--
Al Patterson
 
Of course I'd rather the kit were $1,000, hell, I'd rather it were $500. Below that and I might wonder about quality.

But that doesn't mean that at $1,500 its overpriced. Especially if video is irrelevant to you.

For video, it does what no camera does-- short of $5,000 and in some ways, short of $18,000.
Of course someone could argue, "oh for a 10x zoom shouldn't we be
looking at 500 dollars?" (remember this is a fairly slow zoom). Well
maybe, it will depend on quality. A Sigma 18-200 stabilised goes for
around 400 dollars, but a Tamron 18-200 for 250, while the Nikon is
nearly 600.

Now factor in a kit discount, remember that the G1's price includes a
not so bad kit lens. Ok maybe you'd get to 1200 dollars in a good
economy.

But this is not a good economy. And also, surely Panasonic, while
not discounting the brand especially on such nice new products, also
want to see the m43 standard gain share, not just sit on shelves due
to the high price?

I look at the D90 and it can be found w 18-200 kit for 1200 dollars
or even a bit less. It's video is less capable than the specs of the
GH1 but it's not horrible. And its photo quality will be a good bit
better. And that's from the photo brand with probably the biggest
pricing power out there today.

So yeah, ok, I'll give you 1'100 dollars at most. But I think the
GH1 will sell better if the kit stabilises around 1'000 dollars.

Which, again, remains far from "cheap" or "affordable", especially in
the current economic times.
 

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